ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[cityslick]

--she apparently had a follow-up appt. w/ the bone specialist on friday december 16th.

--trista says she called justin the day before, and he said that he wasn't going to take her (ayla.)

--and he didn't.

--and she "went disappeared" the night of the 16th/morning of the 17th sometime.

***speculation is that maybe ayla wasn't even around at that time TO take to the appt.

--OR that perhaps she had other bruises etc. that justin didn't want to have to explain.

Wasn't around the night of the 16th? At any time? With 3 adults covering up the fact?

Has the other 2 people taken LDT's?

 

[Donjeta]

I don't know about the others but I wouldn't be surprised if mom was prepared to cover for him. She sat there and agreed that she was there and witnessed it when he fell on the stairs on a rainy night in November.

MOO.

 

[deoneta]

Wasn't around the night of the 16th? At any time? With 3 adults covering up the fact?

Has the other 2 people taken LDT's?

Nothing confirmed, one way or the other. When asked, Justin indicated that he didn't know if they had taken LDTs, that it wasn't discussed which is another statement which is hard to believe. All MOO.

 

[naturallyme]

If the timeline is to be trusted and indeed the speculation that a DHHS did P/J a favor, then this case will not be solved because DHHS/Police will be held liable and they won't allow that to happen!

I believe since J never bonded with this Child, and the parents never really had a solid relationship, J looked at this child as a problem from the start. Anger, child costing him money/time. Hate filled in him from the Mom of Ayla carried over on to the child.

LE is not going to solve this one. MOO

This has concerned me for sometime now! Many things do get covered up, however, I hope something as serious as this will not. I keep waiting for the local newspapers or MSM to get involved, do some investigative reporting and bring this out if that is the case. I hope the public also stays involved and demands some answers! Not accusing, or saying that is what is happening, just that I am very concerned at this point. Hope my concerns are all in vain and this case gets solved.

 

[cluciano63]

JMO, it is ridiculous for JD to say he doesn't know if his sister and/or girlfriend took lie detector tests...

 

[Lera213]

This has concerned me for sometime now! Many things do get covered up, however, I hope something as serious as this will not. I keep waiting for the local newspapers or MSM to get involved, do some investigative reporting and bring this out if that is the case. I hope the public also stays involved and demands some answers! Not accusing, or saying that is what is happening, just that I am very concerned at this point. Hope my concerns are all in vain and this case gets solved.

I pray the same thing but my gut tells me it isn't going to happen. The fact that LE told the mother of Ayla to stay away from the area reeks to me of them trying to control the information to come out.

I tell you what, If I were the mom nothing would have stopped me from going over that area and searching myself. Of Course I would have many with me and a camera rolling.

 

[askfornina]

I should know this, but I can't recall at the moment. Has JD ever indicated that no one heard anything that night, or is that just an assumption? I see "no one heard anything" a lot but I'm not sure that has been mentioned. Definitely not by LE, anyway. Couldn't ED have heard footsteps, Ayla's door opening, and thought nothing of it? Something like that?

 

[Donjeta]

Good point... PDP said she heard nothing and I took it to indicate that it was probably a quiet kind of crime... but it turned out it was because she wasn't there.

 

[maedlamsmom]

If JD is lying about any of Ayla's injuries, LE will be able to determine that pretty easily. The ball pit claim can be easily verified (or debunked). There is only one CC in Maine, in Portland. Does it have a ball pit? No. Well, there you go. LE will have access to receipts from JD cc and bank accounts. Were they even at CC on the day in question? What about footage from the restaurant? Those places are heavily monitored. One way or another, LE knows (or will soon know) if that is a lie. TR also states that she has pictures of the injuries. If this is true, and they are not able to confirm JD story of how they occurred then they know a crime (child abuse) took place. LE also has JD's exact, direct statement as to how the injuries occurred. If they determine he has lied, that is false statements to the police.

As far as the broken arm, again, LE would be able to determine the exact date by the medical records. They would be able to get grocery store security footage to confirm or deny if he would have in fact been carrying groceries. Did he bring Ayla to the store with him? Do his bank records or cc confirm a trip to the grocery store? Did his instructors at the college remember him attending class the day after the accident? LE has the answers to all of these questions.

Trust me, they are researching every claim and attempting to find evidence for every detail of each involved party's claims. LE is going to look at the family that were in that house first. They have NOT been able to rule them out and I personally have noticed a slight, um, cooling, towards JD and his family in the latest statements. The whole issue with the LDT for one.

I think that they are still searching for Ayla furiously, as they should, and I pray they find her soon, but they are also looking to build a case. I think they have a primary suspect, even if they have not named him. Just moo....


Just a quick afterthought...my daughter was born on the same day as sweet Ayla and they have very similar names. My girl even has those same green pjs we have come to know so well...this story is breaking my heart. I didn't want to believe anything bad of the dad at first and tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, you know what made me think something was "hinky" with the dad? The ball pit story. I would never put my daughter in a ball pit alone at her age. The pits are at least two feet deep. She would be up to her chest and would have difficulty moving. They are not designed for children her and Ayla's age, without a parent being in there with them. They could go under the balls and be stepped on. But, I KNOW that chuckie cheese removed all their ball pits in the early 2000's so, the story is factually impossible.

 

[Yoda]

Just a thought. Maybe ayla's arm was broken the last week of his class in October, but he did not take her until nov 5th. Partial truth, just a longer time until going to the hospital. What was the weather like the day before the last class in October? Also, it was her first halloween with him- any photos?

It rained on oct 27th according to weather underground.

 

[Lera213]

It is clear to me if our speculation is correct with the pictures of bruises, broken arm, ball pit etc then IMHO LE has enough to charge JD with child abuse, child neglect alone for not taking her to her doctor's appointment...but yet no arrest, no turning up the heat on them. This is another point that tells me this case will not be solved.

If I were the mother's family I would be front and center on the DHHS angle and turn up the heat on LE.

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[dog.gone.cute]

Wasn't around the night of the 16th? At any time? With 3 adults covering up the fact?

Has the other 2 people taken LDT's?

BBM: I am "guessing" that they did -- judging from Justin's response -- or should I say LACK of response . . .

:waitasec: I wonder if the other 2 people SMOKE IT ? :floorlaugh:

MOO ...

 

[cityslick]

It is clear to me if our speculation is correct with the pictures of bruises, broken arm, ball pit etc then IMHO LE has enough to charge JD with child abuse, child neglect alone for not taking her to her doctor's appointment...but yet no arrest, no turning up the heat on them. This is another point that tells me this case will not be solved.

If I were the mother's family I would be front and center on the DHHS angle and turn up the heat on LE.

I am usually on the side of LE but I think they are out of their league and want this case to go away because big lawsuits. MOO

I think the fact he doesn't have a lawyer yet (that we know of) is telling as well.

 

[lauriej]

I should know this, but I can't recall at the moment. Has JD ever indicated that no one heard anything that night, or is that just an assumption? I see "no one heard anything" a lot but I'm not sure that has been mentioned. Definitely not by LE, anyway. Couldn't ED have heard footsteps, Ayla's door opening, and thought nothing of it? Something like that?

..as far as i know, we've never anything like that from justin.

..mainly b/c he doesn't want to talk about "that night" ( other than to tell us that it was just, just a normal night..)

 

[deoneta]

I should know this, but I can't recall at the moment. Has JD ever indicated that no one heard anything that night, or is that just an assumption? I see "no one heard anything" a lot but I'm not sure that has been mentioned. Definitely not by LE, anyway. Couldn't ED have heard footsteps, Ayla's door opening, and thought nothing of it? Something like that?

I suppose it is an assumption based on JD's first statement that he had" no idea" what happened to Ayla and also that all the accounts we have read, from JD's statements to Harry's website indicate that everyone slept through the night from 10PM until 8:30 the next morning. However, as far as I can tell, I don't see the "heard nothing" phrase in any interviews or statements. Harry's timeline said the crime occured "in the middle of the night." All MOO.

 

[keeponsearching]

Just a thought. Maybe ayla's arm was broken the last week of his class in October, but he did not take her until nov 5th. Partial truth, just a longer time until going to the hospital. What was the weather like the day before the last class in October? Also, it was her first halloween with him- any photos?

It rained on oct 27th according to weather underground.

It snowed right before halloween to. Then it melted and was a huge wet mess.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If the timeline is to be trusted and indeed the speculation that a DHHS did P/J a favor, then this case will not be solved because DHHS/Police will be held liable and they won't allow that to happen!

I believe since J never bonded with this Child, and the parents never really had a solid relationship, J looked at this child as a problem from the start. Anger, child costing him money/time. Hate filled in him from the Mom of Ayla carried over on to the child.

LE is not going to solve this one. MOO

BBM: I am not familiar with DHHS -- but "anyone" who works for DHHS who would do a "FAVOR" for someone, wouldn't they be FIRED and/or lose their "license" ? JMO but that would be a huge risk for anyone to take.

While I understand LE has to work with the DHHS, a BIG IF here -- IF there was some "hink" by DHHS -- and LE found it -- then shouldn't LE go after the DHHS as well ?

I do not think that LE should be held responsible for the MISTAKES of the DHHS -- unless a particular person with LE was involved -- then hold that person responsible ...

But keep the investigation going ... :waitasec: I hope that made sense. . .

JMO ... but this is one case that I have been following that I do feel will be solved and there will be Justice for this Ayla.


MOO ...

 

[keeponsearching]

Some times fun places for kids have bounce houses, and in some there could be a few balls. Not sure why, but I have seen it before. I know that could possible be confused with a ball pit. Just throwing out other ideas for why he might have said that.

 

[maedlamsmom]

With respect, I find it a big, unlikely leap from PD having a friend/relative in DHHS to a statewide coverup/conspiracy. If there was some sort of back room deal to get Ayla from Trista's family, I think it was most likely one co-worker leaning over a cubicle and saying, "hey I know these people. Can we speed this up? There are things are aren't in the record...wink, wink, nod, nod, blah, blah..." DHHS are just people and, although I am sure they all get into the field with the best intentions (or I like to think that they do), they are just human and subject to bad decisions, faulty motives and whims. Rules are bent, I am sure. But, if something a bit, shall we say, suspect, DID happen, I think it would be a lot easier for the state of ME to scapegoat one or two employees of the lowly DHHS then to commit to a huge conspiracy on a national stage. They are building a case. They just don't have enoughyet. They don't have Ayla. And just like Sky and Bianca (and for goodness sake there are too many now to name, what is happening to our world....), the person who was supposed to care most for this child has hidden them away too well. This is all IMO....

 

[HiHater]

With respect, I find it a big, unlikely leap from PD having a friend/relative in DHHS to a statewide coverup/conspiracy. If there was some sort of back room deal to get Ayla from Trista's family, I think it was most likely one co-worker leaning over a cubicle and saying, "hey I know these people. Can we speed this up? There are things are aren't in the record...wink, wink, nod, nod, blah, blah..." DHHS are just people and, although I am sure they all get into the field with the best intentions (or I like to think that they do), they are just human and subject to bad decisions, faulty motives and whims. Rules are bent, I am sure. But, if something a bit, shall we say, suspect, DID happen, I think it would be a lot easier for the state of ME to scapegoat one or two employees of the lowly DHHS then to commit to a huge conspiracy on a national stage. They are building a case. They just don't have enoughyet. They don't have Ayla. And just like Sky and Bianca (and for goodness sake there are too many now to name, what is happening to our world....), the person who was supposed to care most for this child has hidden them away too well. This is all IMO....

Just because TR or some others dont agree with DHHS decisions doesn't mean they were illegal or against policy. TR needs to own the fact that she invited this agency into her life. LE and DHHS or CPS have been at odds in many cases ( think Shaniya Davis), so if something is truly amiss I'm sure it will come out in the wash.