ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[naturallyme]

Update alert.....


Justin's blogger friend has a new update as of sometime today.

 

[Donjeta]

I'm sorry, I think the ball pit story was probably lost in translation. JD probably did tell TR that Ayla got hurt at CEC, but I have a hard time believing he said it happened in the ball pit if there wasn't one. Perhaps there is something similar to a ball pit---a little bounce house that has balls in it or similar.

Also, without knowing how big or where the bruises were, it's a stretch to accuse JD of causing them. He is a grown man, appears large in stature, so bruising caused by him would be different of bruises caused by a kid. With regard to this, I say pics or it happened the way JD said it did, at CEC and at the hands of another child--- JMO

BBM. That is assuming that he was aware that there wasn't one. But we weren't certain until someone made sure there isn't and maybe he didn't know either.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Snipped and BBM:

Here's another "snippet" from Phoebe that sent my "radar" up :

http://www.necn.com/pages/video?PID=...hYNAfkVBVlyyM8

Jan.8th 2012 NECN interview with PD:

Q: You didn't hear any noise?
PD: I did not hear anything.
Q: When you found out that she wasn't there, what did you think?
PD: I thought that I didn't want my son to go get any of his friends and go kicking in doors looking for her.


RBM: Phoebe's "response" makes NO SENSE -- the "Question" is about Ayla being "missing" -- NOT "what" her son -- oh, and his "friends" -- MIGHT do.

JMO ... but NO ONE in the DiPietro family has put little Ayla FIRST ! Ayla is the VICTIM -- she is MISSING -- she is probably not here on this earth any more !

It's a pattern with her to put her son ahead of Ayla, which I find really odd in a grandmother, but that's just me.

Here she is talking about the night he fell down with Ayla and broke her arm.

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/i-fell-on-herfather-says_2012-01-06.html

"I came up the stairs and slipped. It happened so fast, I don't know exactly how I fell on her, but I fell on her," he said. "It's burned into my brain."

His mother, Phoebe DiPietro, 47, was in the next room.

"I was sitting in the living room with my daughter, and we heard a big thump," she recalled Thursday. "I immediately went to the kitchen and Ayla was scared, obviously. I picked her up."

Phoebe DiPietro said Justin's wrist was injured in the fall, but Ayla appeared to be OK.

"I was more worried about (Justin's) wrist, because he's broken it into 39 pieces (in a snowboard accident)," she said.

I don't get that - more worried about the son, who is a grown man, than the baby who fell to the floor, which is most parents/grandparents' worst nightmare?

More worried about a wrist that healed long ago, than a baby's arm which would not only be extremely painful, but also might be crippling for the rest of her life?

I'm sorry, but I can't understand that line of thinking . . .

ETA: When Justin broke his wrist in the snowboard accident, did they wait 24 hours to take him to the emergency room? I would bet they didn't.

 

[HiHater]

On Nancy's FB right now http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN:

Nancy Grace
Baby Ayla’s mom says she thinks the toddler is alive and holding on but then mommy reportedly is unable to finish a lie detector test, saying the examiner halted the test because she had a medical condition! Meanwhile, baby Ayla’s father reportedly confirms he has taken a polygraph and police say they’ve told him the results, but he wants to see the physical test results himself. Why does he need to see the test results? Call me now with your question: 877-NANCY-01

The American Polygraph Association Standards and Ethics Committee require that the examinee be given the results if requested.

I'm guessing there is more to a report than just lines on a paper. After all, most LE is not trained to interpret those lines any more than someone like JD would be. JD has every right to see the report/results according to the above association. Maybe LE won't tell him exactly what he is being truthful/deceptive about, maybe they only gave him a simple pass/fail. ? Just my thoughts....

 

[HiHater]

BBM. That is assuming that he was aware that there wasn't one. But we weren't certain until someone made sure there isn't and maybe he didn't know either.

He was at the CEC, and we have nothing to indicate he was not? Is that what you mean?

 

[Donjeta]

He was at the CEC, and we have nothing to indicate he was not? Is that what you mean?

No, it's not. I mean that he would be unlikely to lie that Ayla hurt herself in the ball pit in Chuck E. Cheese if he knew there wasn't one but people don't always check the facts before making up a lie and that's what gets some liars caught.

It could be he remembers a fight in the ball pit of Chuck E. Cheese a long time ago and hadn't visited for a while to notice how things had changed.

 

[deoneta]

Things JD doesn't know:

How he fared on the LDT because he says they didn't tell him (LE says otherwise)

If his mom, sister or gf took an LDT

When Ayla's broken arm injury occurred

That there is no ball pit at CEC

What happened to Ayla

All MOO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just some of my thoughts. . .

First, the blogger is a liar. She didn't change the original (reads like a romance novel) version with all the details from ED finding Ayla to ED finding Ayla and telling CR, so that CR could tell JD. ...

Second, I think it's prudent to watch LE's behavior. Early on they searched a dumpster at a hotel. . . correct me if I'm wrong. I thought that was peculiar. ...

Third, about that window. I don't think LE thinks there was ever an intruder. I think it was Pat Brown that said on Levi Page last night that they aren't looking for a kidnapper by searching the river. I agree. ...

MOO

Snipped for space: These are some good points and I agree.

Now ... as to the "blogger", I hope LE has already started their investigation on this blogger as well as the "blog" ...

"Anybody" can put info out there ... and that is WHY LE needs to check into this for a few different reasons :

- Does this blogger really know Justin, like she claims, and has known him since he was 8 years old ?

- Does this blogger know anyone else in Justin's family -- his GF ?

- HOW did this blogger communicate with Justin, or anyone else in his family or GF, about the night Ayla went "missing" ?

And LE should check this blogger's phone records, and computer history !

- Now ... is it possible that this blogger "inserted" herself into the case ? Wouldn't be a first time and won't be the last time that someone is looking for their 15 minutes ?

- And WHY is this blogger soooooooo defensive of Justin, his family, his GF ? Also she is very defensive about HER.

Too much HINK and STINK from this blogger ... LE needs to check up on her, like yesterday... :waitasec:

MOO ...

 

[deoneta]

Snipped for space: These are some good points and I agree.

Now ... as to the "blogger", I hope LE has already started their investigation on this blogger as well as the "blog" ...

"Anybody" can put info out there ... and that is WHY LE needs to check into this for a few different reasons :

- Does this blogger really know Justin, like she claims, and has known him since he was 8 years old ?

- Does this blogger know anyone else in Justin's family -- his GF ?

- HOW did this blogger communicate with Justin, or anyone else in his family or GF, about the night Ayla went "missing" ?

And LE should check this blogger's phone records, and computer history !

- Now ... is it possible that this blogger "inserted" herself into the case ? Wouldn't be a first time and won't be the last time that someone is looking for their 15 minutes ?

- And WHY is this blogger soooooooo defensive of Justin, his family, his GF ? Also she is very defensive about HER.

Too much HINK and STINK from this blogger ... LE needs to check up on her, like yesterday... :waitasec:

MOO ...

I am beginning to wonder if she really is a friend of the family. She gave a lot of detailed info in "Ayla's story", but who knows what's true. If she is a friend, she sure hasn't done JD any favors. All MOO.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It's a pattern with her to put her son ahead of Ayla, which I find really odd in a grandmother, but that's just me.

I don't get that - more worried about the son, who is a grown man, than the baby who fell to the floor, which is most parents/grandparents' worst nightmare?

More worried about a wrist that healed long ago, than a baby's arm which would not only be extremely painful, but also might be crippling for the rest of her life?

I'm sorry, but I can't understand that line of thinking . . .

ETA: When Justin broke his wrist in the snowboard accident, did they wait 24 hours to take him to the emergency room? I would bet they didn't.

Snipped : These are some excellent points ... and I totally agree !

:seeya:

 

[Caligram]

The mom and son "DP Duo" remind me of RC and his mommy, who always tried to defend and make excuses for Ron. His mom had some influence with LE and the townspeople, and not many were willing to talk bad about Ron and his drug deals.

Nobody in JP's circle of friends is willing to face the media and offer up anything about JP. No employers, coworkers, his "three roommates?" want to go on record as knowing this invisible man. So, did he just get an allowance from mom for his share of rent, utilities and food? I read other explanations, still rumors, which we can't post since they aren't confirmed. JP is just an invisible man, now he has an invisible daughter. But there is evidence that Ayla existed. People knew and loved Ayla, that is clear. Ayla was loved and happy and safe with her mom.
Somebody knows what happened to Ayla. Somebody is keeping secrets and possibly that somebody fears being charged as an accomplice. I hope somebody does the right thing and speaks out, speaks the truth to LE.
MOO

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

You had me doubting myself there! :seeya: I had been there a few years back, but most of that day was a blur of bad pizza and sugar-hyped kids...so, I called them. The number listed on the website only directs you to the main reservation line. I had to get the direct number to actually speak to an employee of that particular Portland location. Very friendly by the way... They DO NOT HAVE A BALL PIT. And, there are no other locations in Maine, according to both their website and my search of business directories online. I also have some friends who are locals and they assure me that the only CEC that they know of is in Portland, and certainly it is the closest one to Waterville (JD would have otherwise had to travel into NH or Mass..

So, to me someone is lying. Either JD lied to TR (and if so, I can only hope he was stupid enough to repeat this lie to LE) or TR is lying about the excuse JD gave her about Ayla's injuries. All moo...

ETA: just reread over your post...I will read over that thread again (if I can find it, you guys have been busy!). But, I called the location again, and they said that the Portland location is the only one they know of, too. Maybe it is an unlicensed or not-franchised branch?

Thanks, Maedlamsmom! I am so sorry if I led you or anyone down the wrong path. And, thank you for calling the CEC and getting the information right from the horse's mouth (...or the Rat's mouth, as the case may be)! Tee! Hee! I never could figure out just what kind of rodent Chuckie was!)

No ball pit....hmmmmm....who is telling the truth here...JD or TR?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Snipped for space: These are some good points and I agree.

Now ... as to the "blogger", I hope LE has already started their investigation on this blogger as well as the "blog" ...

"Anybody" can put info out there ... and that is WHY LE needs to check into this for a few different reasons :

- Does this blogger really know Justin, like she claims, and has known him since he was 8 years old ?

- Does this blogger know anyone else in Justin's family -- his GF ?

- HOW did this blogger communicate with Justin, or anyone else in his family or GF, about the night Ayla went "missing" ?

And LE should check this blogger's phone records, and computer history !

- Now ... is it possible that this blogger "inserted" herself into the case ? Wouldn't be a first time and won't be the last time that someone is looking for their 15 minutes ?

- And WHY is this blogger soooooooo defensive of Justin, his family, his GF ? Also she is very defensive about HER.

Too much HINK and STINK from this blogger ... LE needs to check up on her, like yesterday... :waitasec:

MOO ...

I TOTALLY AGREE! I think she has made herself enough of a member, and states that she has a great deal of information, in this case that investigations should proceed at once, if they have not been done before!

 

[maedlamsmom]

Thanks, Maedlamsmom! I am so sorry if I led you or anyone down the wrong path. And, thank you for calling the CEC and getting the information right from the horse's mouth (...or the Rat's mouth, as the case may be)! Tee! Hee! I never could figure out just what kind of rodent Chuckie was!)

No ball pit....hmmmmm....who is telling the truth here...JD or TR?

No need to apologize! You gave me a reason to work up the nerve to call. I HAD to know for myself! :blushing:

On a side note, the girl at CEC must think I am the most type A mom she has ever had the misfortune to interact with. I pretended I was thinking about planning my daughter's birthday to get as much info as I could. And I asked VERY detailed questions. I am sure she is hoping I decide to NOT celebrate there!

Some other tidbits I gathered:
only CEC in Maine
No ball pit and nothing like one, but does have "tubes" that suspend from the ceiling that kids can crawl though
Some of the smaller "rides" and equipment are suitable for as young as the 2-3 set, but not all
Most toddlers enjoy the characters most
The tubes that are ceiling high may be scary for younger than three and have slides at the bottom
They will provide the cake if you want (had to ask a birthday party relevant question to cement my "cover").

 

[ThoughtFox]

No need to apologize! You gave me a reason to work up the nerve to call. I HAD to know for myself! :blushing:

On a side note, the girl at CEC must think I am the most type A mom she has ever had the misfortune to interact with. I pretended I was thinking about planning my daughter's birthday to get as much info as I could. And I asked VERY detailed questions. I am sure she is hoping I decide to NOT celebrate there!

Some other tidbits I gathered:
only CEC in Maine
No ball pit and nothing like one, but does have "tubes" that suspend from the ceiling that kids can crawl though
Some of the smaller "rides" and equipment are suitable for as young as the 2-3 set, but not all
Most toddlers enjoy the characters most
The tubes that are ceiling high may be scary for younger than three and have slides at the bottom
They will provide the cake if you want (had to ask a birthday party relevant question to cement my "cover").

Great sleuthing, Maedlamsmom! :great: Answers at last!

 

[naturallyme]

When I posted the alert--update to Justin's blooger friend upthread, I hadn't even read it. Came here to post and then went back and read. After reading, I felt dizzy like I had been on a Tilt A Twirl.

What I don't understand is this.....

If this blogger friend or any of those in the house really want Ayla found (as they claim) then they must keep the public believing there was an intruder. Then the public will keep searching, donating, putting up flyers. If the public thinks someone in the house took Ayla then why search or donate.

To keep the public believing in the intruder.....

they could indicate how that intruder got in

Justin could say I passed that Polygraph and here is the results to prove it (he is allowed the results). He then shows news reporter a copy for all the public to see.

He could say all the rumors going round are not true, here is my employer/past employer..... here are my roommates ask them..... on and on

they would have been upfront from the beginning about who was in the house, where everyone slept, if anyone got up to go to the bathroom, got hungry in the night and got a snack.

They would have given every detail they possibly could have to increase the intruder theory, so the public would stay involved.

As it is, they sealed their lips, because they were afraid of giving out details that could be checked out and found to be untrue. Phoebe and the blogger friend gave out a few tidbits and we all know how that went.

Yet, this blogger is now devoting thousand of words, saying absolutely nothing of value that would keep the public believing, hoping, and working towards finding a missing child, they claim someone else took.

If her goal is finding Ayla, then please give some information that will give the public hope.

 

[HiHater]

As far as not revealing who was in the house that night, I think about Baby Joshua (who also disappeared from a house full of people). His parents very openly spoke to the media from the beginning, yet they too did not reveal the identity of the "family friend" who was also in the home. Even though they suspected him, for some reason they did not make his name public until someone else figured it out.

Not saying that JD hasn't revealed who was in the house and where they were for the same reasons as Baby Joshua's family, I'm just saying it does happen...:twocents:

 

[HiHater]

When I posted the alert--update to Justin's blooger friend upthread, I hadn't even read it. Came here to post and then went back and read. After reading, I felt dizzy like I had been on a Tilt A Twirl.

What I don't understand is this.....

If this blogger friend or any of those in the house really want Ayla found (as they claim) then they must keep the public believing there was an intruder. Then the public will keep searching, donating, putting up flyers. If the public thinks someone in the house took Ayla then why search or donate.

To keep the public believing in the intruder.....

they could indicate how that intruder got in

Justin could say I passed that Polygraph and here is the results to prove it (he is allowed the results). He then shows news reporter a copy for all the public to see.

He could say all the rumors going round are not true, here is my employer/past employer..... here are my roommates ask them..... on and on

they would have been upfront from the beginning about who was in the house, where everyone slept, if anyone got up to go to the bathroom, got hungry in the night and got a snack.

They would have given every detail they possibly could have to increase the intruder theory, so the public would stay involved.

As it is, they sealed their lips, because they were afraid of giving out details that could be checked out and found to be untrue. Phoebe and the blogger friend gave out a few tidbits and we all know how that went.

Yet, this blogger is now devoting thousand of words, saying absolutely nothing of value that would keep the public believing, hoping, and working towards finding a missing child, they claim someone else took.

If her goal is finding Ayla, then please give some information that will give the public hope.

I'll be honest, I couldn't read past the first few sentences. That's a lot of words per paragraph, and I didn't have to read too far to realize that a majority of those words were not written on behalf of Ayla...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

No need to apologize! You gave me a reason to work up the nerve to call. I HAD to know for myself! :blushing:

On a side note, the girl at CEC must think I am the most type A mom she has ever had the misfortune to interact with. I pretended I was thinking about planning my daughter's birthday to get as much info as I could. And I asked VERY detailed questions. I am sure she is hoping I decide to NOT celebrate there!

Some other tidbits I gathered:
only CEC in Maine
No ball pit and nothing like one, but does have "tubes" that suspend from the ceiling that kids can crawl though
Some of the smaller "rides" and equipment are suitable for as young as the 2-3 set, but not all
Most toddlers enjoy the characters most
The tubes that are ceiling high may be scary for younger than three and have slides at the bottom
They will provide the cake if you want (had to ask a birthday party relevant question to cement my "cover").

Thanks, Maedlamsmom!

Good info. to know, should there be any retractions on statements regarding JD and Ayla at CEC.

And great undercover work, Type A Birthday Mom! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[LvsAMystry]

I'm sure LE knew she wasn't there from the beginning. But the question still is why even bother to get entangled in interviews implying you were there, if you weren't? Why not say you weren't there? Why not say "I can't tell you anything about what happened that night because I wasn't there. If you want to know what happened that night you will have to ask somebody that WAS there." And that last one is exactly why I think she had the dilemma she did. She's protecting her children. JMHO.

I'd like to know was she there when LE arrived? If she was, to me that implies a delay in contacting LE, aka not complete panic etc