ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[cluciano63]

This case seems to have devolved into nonsense...bloggers, accusations, worrying about what people are saying about THEM, etc...and very little about Ayla or what really happened in that house that night, which is the only important thing, IMO. JD refusing to answer the reporter's simple questions, such as how many babies were in the room with Ayla, did anyone wake up, etc...makes it seem as though he is not interested in advancing Ayla's story when he has the opportunity right there. Soon enough, the media will move on.

Just by my own observations, none of these people seem organized or crafty enough to be fooling the FBI and various other LEA's if they have spirited Ayla away for "safe-keeping." If I am right, that doesn't leave much...the .01% chance a stranger got in there and took Ayla, or the 99.9% chance that someone in that house knows exactly what harm came to her and where she is now.

All JMO of course.

 

[naturallyme]

Maybe AH is JD's confidante. Like he calls her up every day, maybe even two or three times a day if people are being mean to him. She tries to soothe his hurt feelings. Nah.
But I am getting po'd because she has said some very unflattering things about us critics who "hover like vultures" (my dirty-bird words) and pick apart every sentence. So we are pickers, that's not a bad thing, it indicates that we have above-average intelligence and all we want is the truth. Just the truth, no embellishments.
She started it, describing in detail as if she had been there, Justin charging up those cellar stairs and busting through the gate when whoever it was told him whatever. Time to bring out my Crackerjacks magnifying glass and study the clues for evidence. Now, where is that darn gate that started all the "say what's".

IMOO

Speaking of "that gate". It was mentioned at least twice in her story. Once when she told us they closed it for the children's safety. Second when it was broken. If you notice, when the clarification was done, the gate wasn't mentioned.

I have a feeling LE found a broken gate that needed an explanation. On the other hand, if you were trying to cover something up, wouldn't you have trashed a broken gate. I never used gates (all one floor) so do not know much about them. If it was permanently attached, would it have left screw holes in the wall that might have been questioned?

 

[hambirg]

Speaking of "that gate". It was mentioned at least twice in her story. Once when she told us they closed it for the children's safety. Second when it was broken. If you notice, when the clarification was done, the gate wasn't mentioned.

I have a feeling LE found a broken gate that needed an explanation. On the other hand, if you were trying to cover something up, wouldn't you have trashed a broken gate. I never used gates (all one floor) so do not know much about them. If it was permanently attached, would it have left screw holes in the wall that might have been questioned?

That's a possibility. I don't know why, but I had the thought that maybe they found it in the shed. Did they take evidence from the shed. .or say something to that effect? Not sure why I'm thinking that. :waitasec:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Maybe AH is JD's confidante. Like he calls her up every day, maybe even two or three times a day if people are being mean to him. She tries to soothe his hurt feelings. Nah.

She started it, describing in detail as if she had been there, Justin charging up those cellar stairs and busting through the gate when whoever it was told him whatever. Time to bring out my Crackerjacks magnifying glass and study the clues for evidence. Now, where is that darn gate that started all the "say what's".

IMOO

Speaking of "that gate". It was mentioned at least twice in her story. Once when she told us they closed it for the children's safety. Second when it was broken. If you notice, when the clarification was done, the gate wasn't mentioned.

I have a feeling LE found a broken gate that needed an explanation. On the other hand, if you were trying to cover something up, wouldn't you have trashed a broken gate. I never used gates (all one floor) so do not know much about them. If it was permanently attached, would it have left screw holes in the wall that might have been questioned?

Snipped and BBM:

:rocker: Yes ... what about that GATE ? I believe y'all are on to something here about the gate ! These are some good points.

One minute the "gate" is in the "story" ... and the next day "poof" - the "gate" is GONE from the "story".

So ... did the same thing happen with the "gate" -- it was there one day and gone the next day ?

OMG ... I just thought of something ... :waitasec: nah ... don't want to get "ripped apart" for what I am really thinking here so I better :shutup:

MOO ...

 

[buggsmom]

I too wonder what was found in the shed...

http://www.wmtw.com/r/30107154/detail.html

Police Turn Waterville Home Back Over To Ayla's Family
POSTED: 7:39 pm EST December 30, 2011
UPDATED: 8:33 am EST January 2, 2012

...
Massey said Waterville police will work with state police and other agencies in helping solve what happened to Ayla.

On Friday, a shed in the back yard of Justin DiPietro's home was roped off and investigators, wearing gloves and boots, were in and out of the house. At one point, they removed a paper bag from the house. It is unknown what was in the bag.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

That's a possibility. I don't know why, but I had the thought that maybe they found it in the shed. Did they take evidence from the shed. .or say something to that effect? Not sure why I'm thinking that. :waitasec:

BBM: Yes -- they did search the shed. And the house was under LE's control for 2 weeks.

Hmmm ... that "gate" ...

Speculating: Maybe they threw it in the shed -- and tried to pass it off as having been broken for a while ? And if broke the day Ayla went "missing", hopefully some evidence was left behind -- like splinters and the nails that attach to the wall ...

Thinking out loud too much on this case ... and got NG Show on in the background ... :crazy:

MOO ...

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Snipped for space: These are some good points and I agree.

Now ... as to the "blogger", I hope LE has already started their investigation on this blogger as well as the "blog" ...

"Anybody" can put info out there ... and that is WHY LE needs to check into this for a few different reasons :

- Does this blogger really know Justin, like she claims, and has known him since he was 8 years old ?

- Does this blogger know anyone else in Justin's family -- his GF ?

- HOW did this blogger communicate with Justin, or anyone else in his family or GF, about the night Ayla went "missing" ?

And LE should check this blogger's phone records, and computer history !

- Now ... is it possible that this blogger "inserted" herself into the case ? Wouldn't be a first time and won't be the last time that someone is looking for their 15 minutes ?

- And WHY is this blogger soooooooo defensive of Justin, his family, his GF ? Also she is very defensive about HER.

Too much HINK and STINK from this blogger ... LE needs to check up on her, like yesterday... :waitasec:

MOO ...

That is my choice of probabilities.

 

[HiHater]

That is my choice of probabilities.

Mine too...why would JD keep his family so quiet and then let AH blog about this stuff? JD could have released his own written statements, he did so in the beginning...

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Mine too...why would JD keep his family so quiet and then let AH blog about this stuff? JD could have released his own written statements, he did so in the beginning...

The problem I have is it is admirable for one to want to help a family friend and set up a website but it is not wise nor doing (JD) any favors to put out a blog when it is a criminal investigation. A website, yes. A blog that sows argumentative reactions? Not good. There also needs to be a link for missing posters of Ayla.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Mine too...why would JD keep his family so quiet and then let AH blog about this stuff? JD could have released his own written statements, he did so in the beginning...

The problem I have is it is admirable for one to want to help a family friend and set up a website but it is not wise nor doing (JD) any favors to put out a blog when it is a criminal investigation. A website, yes. A blog that sows argumentative writings? Not good. Trust someone else to speak for you in a criminal instigation to give out details of what "happened" that night? Not wise. Retractions of written words regarding events and details is very eyebrow raising. We know all writers should always proof their work and should be passing it to whom they are writing about for approval before "publishing."

JMO ... but there is something that's just not right about this AH blog ... :waitasec: Nothing about it seems to make any sense ...

I wish a good investigative reporter would uncover something about this ... but I am not holding my breath for that one ... "good investigative reporters" -- do they even exist any more ? :waitasec:

And I sure hope LE is looking into this AH and the blog ... and if they are,they will NOT tell us anything -- they sure have been keeping quiet about their investigation ...

I just wish SOMETHING would BREAK in this case ...

Too many questions and no answers ...

MOO ...

 

[lauriej]

The problem I have is it is admirable for one to want to help a family friend and set up a website but it is not wise nor doing (JD) any favors to put out a blog when it is a criminal investigation. A website, yes. A blog that sows argumentative reactions? Not good. There also needs to be a link for missing posters of Ayla.

--there are links for posters on the "What You Can Do" page of the blog.

 

[maedlamsmom]

As far as gates are concerned, if it was one at the top of stairs, I believe it would have been attached to the wall by screws or hardware of some sort. The only other type of gate is a tension gate, but those are useless on stairs bc if a child leans into it, the gate can still give way and crash down the stairs (along with the child!). So, fwiw, if there was a gate, my money is on a screwed in gate. We use a LOT of gates bc we have a little explorer. It would be very hard to "crash through" a screwed in gate, unless it wasn't properly installed into the drywall and you literally pulled out the screws with the force of your body. But, doing so, epesically coming UP the stairs would leave marks or bruises on your legs...just thinking out loud and looking at possibilities, but I would think this would be another question asked and, hopefully, confirmed by police.

 

[Kiln Wood]

BBM: I am "confused" ... :waitasec: lol ... Do you think that Phoebe D has "something" to do with Ayla being missing ? Or, do you think she is "covering" for someone ?

JMO but I think she is covering BIG TIME for Justin -- and possibly others ...


Here is my :twocents: FWIW ...

First, Phoebe tells the MSM that there was "no party" at her house and she "did not hear anything" that night.

Then, Phoebe changes her story to the MSM and says that she was NOT home that night and was at another location.

So ... my question is WHAT did Phoebe tell LE ? Did she change her story with LE ? or just the MSM ?

When Phoebe tells LE that she was NOT at home that night -- you can bet your boots they are going to want AN ALIBI who Phoebe was with that night ... and IF that does not "check out" -- they would be "all over her" ...

So ... was she "working" [which would be easily verified] ... was with someone [which may or may not be checking out] ... was she at a place where there were "video cameras" that recorded her being there -- which would be verified ...

So WHERE was Phoebe ? Phoebe CHANGES her story -- so WHO is she covering for and WHY ?

JMO but it is obvious to me WHO she is "covering for" -- her son Justin ... :waitasec: or maybe one of her other children ?

MOO ...

BBM

I am going to attempt to answer some of the questions you posed:

BBM 1 - Yes

BBM 2 - No

BBM 3 - Her alibi DOES check out.

BBM 4 - According to a poster in an earlier thread, PD works a day job.

BBM 5 - Yes

BBM 6 - With a friend, significant other, or partner

BBM 7 - She is not "covering" for anyone. JD and ED know what went on
(and CR may as well), but WE here on WS really don't know WHAT
LE has asked any of them so while we may speculate, we don't
KNOW what they were asked nor what their answers were.

Upthread or on the previous thread, IHAVENOCLUE thanked me in a post for "thinking outside the box." If you read my posts in the last five days or so, you'll be able to place my answers in context. I enjoy WS, and I do not want to be banned for pointing a finger, particularly when there is a cultural issue involved, but there is an aspect to Ayla's being missing that must be placed in the cultural context of Maine as a state--and I am not "baiting" here, but only seeking to remain among you here on WS.

Thank you for your thought provoking post.

 

[Kiln Wood]

:waitasec: JMO ... but this is just another "sarcastic" answer from JD ...

And JMO ... but the "deserves NO explanation" tells me he is NOT doing a thing to help find Ayla ...

So telling ... very telling ...

MOO ...

BBM

There is a school of thought (and I'm not saying I belong to this school) that believes that unless someone else is paying your bills, you do not owe anyone other than the person who is paying your bills an explanation. For all we know, JD may be from that school. Having lived in northern New England for 11 years, I feel comfortable stating that New Englanders are, for the most part, very reserved people. Some may say they are deeply private people who resent any outside intrusion into their lives.....

As to JD's "NOT doing a thing to help find Ayla," why should he when he knows where she is and doesn't want her found (at least not now)? This is not to be taken as an expression that Ayla is dead.

I respect your viewpoint, and I am not arguing with you, but merely expressing a contrasting point of view not based on anything other than my own life's experiences.

 

[Kiln Wood]

The more I think about it, this boring Friday night, going to bed at 10 ish with the toddlers is an alibi. Kids in bed and asleep (I'm assuming) by 10 pm would make for a very quiet household. I doubt the adults would want to make much noise in case they woke up the little ones. This scenario is completely unbelievable to me. What happened to the reports that there were people going in and out of there that night?

Extra questions: how is JD making money? Does he have a job? He has a truck and needs to fill it up with gas and go and see his girlfriend in Portland every once in awhile. Isn't it one hour away from Waterville? How is he sustaining himself and Ayla? IF he has no income (not sure if he has a job), how did he get custody of Ayla?

BBM

Because he knows how the State of Maine Office of Child and Protective Services (CPS) works and he used that knowledge of CPS to work for him. To the best of my current knowledge, there is nothing illegal in his doing so.

 

[Kiln Wood]

This case seems to have devolved into nonsense...bloggers, accusations, worrying about what people are saying about THEM, etc...and very little about Ayla or what really happened in that house that night, which is the only important thing, IMO. JD refusing to answer the reporter's simple questions, such as how many babies were in the room with Ayla, did anyone wake up, etc...makes it seem as though he is not interested in advancing Ayla's story when he has the opportunity right there. Soon enough, the media will move on.

Just by my own observations, none of these people seem organized or crafty enough to be fooling the FBI and various other LEA's if they have spirited Ayla away for "safe-keeping." If I am right, that doesn't leave much...the .01% chance a stranger got in there and took Ayla, or the 99.9% chance that someone in that house knows exactly what harm came to her and where she is now.

All JMO of course.

BBM

Do we actually know that "harm came to her?"

I agree with you that someone in that house knows "where she is now," and because PD seemingly wasn't in that house that night, she may very well know where Ayla is now.

 

[Helenstreet]

As far as gates are concerned, if it was one at the top of stairs, I believe it would have been attached to the wall by screws or hardware of some sort. The only other type of gate is a tension gate, but those are useless on stairs bc if a child leans into it, the gate can still give way and crash down the stairs (along with the child!). So, fwiw, if there was a gate, my money is on a screwed in gate. We use a LOT of gates bc we have a little explorer. It would be very hard to "crash through" a screwed in gate, unless it wasn't properly installed into the drywall and you literally pulled out the screws with the force of your body. But, doing so, epesically coming UP the stairs would leave marks or bruises on your legs...just thinking out loud and looking at possibilities, but I would think this would be another question asked and, hopefully, confirmed by police.

Exactly--I commented about this previously. What concerns me is that the first "story" that the blogger posted on her website made references to a gate that was put in place every morning. By her description, they were in fact using a gate at the top of the stairs that was not secured by hardware. Because--as I am sure you know--a hardware mounted gate is not removed and reattached regularly; a pressure-mounted (tension) gate is. I have used many gates as well since we have four children, and safety is my biggest concern. The hardware mounted gates--as you mentioned--are usually very secure, and they require time and tools to install. When I read about the gate on the blogger's website, along with the emphasis on it being put up each and every morning, and that Justin had crashed through it, (don't remember the exact verbiage), the first thought that entered my mind was that Ayla's disappearance was somehow possibly related to an incident involving a gate that was the wrong kind, (improperly used), at the top of the stairs. What a terrible possibility though. Thank you for your post.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

--there are links for posters on the "What You Can Do" page of the blog.

I don't see it? There is one link that says Poster Pledge and goes to a non functioning Facebook page.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

BBM

Upthread or on the previous thread, IHAVENOCLUE thanked me in a post for "thinking outside the box." If you read my posts in the last five days or so, you'll be able to place my answers in context. I enjoy WS, and I do not want to be banned for pointing a finger, particularly when there is a cultural issue involved, but there is an aspect to Ayla's being missing that must be placed in the cultural context of Maine as a state--and I am not "baiting" here, but only seeking to remain among you here on WS.

Thank you for your thought provoking post.

Respectfully snipped :

TY for your explanations ... and yes, I now remember the "thinking outside the box" post -- and nothing wrong with that !

Hmmm ... interesting about PD ...

When I get time later, I will go back and re-read ...

:seeya:

 

[naturallyme]

Justin's blogger friend has once again taken down the blogger portion of her site, with a short explanation.

I agree with many of you that she really wanted her 15 minutes. In this case, I am thankful she did. Because of that, it created at least 2 MSN articles about Ayla and made Nancy Grace. That is keeping Ayla in the news, even if it is in a round about way.

That is just one of the reasons that I keep mentioning her on this website. Since others aren't talking (except through her) I am all ears for clues.