MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[SouthAussie]

Wouldn't it really really be intersting just how their recruitment, interviewing and selecting happens?

With regard to this case, Alex Pretti, it is interesting to hear about the sloppy hiring process. Because the ICE altercations with the public sure seem sloppy and brutal.

A journalist applied for an ICE job. She is an anti-ICE journalist. She explained how the recruitment process worked for her. She was offered a job with ICE despite having submitted none of the 'required' paperwork. (Obviously, she declined the job.)

It is a very interesting read, considering the killings of both Renee and Alex.

imo


“DHS probably has no idea whether ICE offered me a job, which is kind of the point of the article: they have no idea what they’re doing,” she told the Guardian.

Anti-Trump US reporter says she was offered job at ICE after ‘minimal vetting’

Slate journalist Laura Jedeed documented hiring process and said she got offer despite not completing paperwork

www.theguardian.com

 

[tlcya]

A few hours after federal agents fatally shot Alex Pretti in front of a Minneapolis donut shop, snowy footsteps, exploded tear gas and flash bang canisters and crumpled police tape littered the street where he died.

To casual observers, it was a mess. To the Minnesota professionals whose job it is to secure officer-involved crime scenes and collect evidence when someone is killed, it was an emergency.

The third emergency, in fact, in less than three weeks involving a breakdown of basic law enforcement procedures and coordination needed to investigate and restore a traumatized community’s sense of accountability and trust.
The evidence tug-o-war in Alex Pretti killing and why it matters

 

[Ruminations]

Are you actually saying that Noem is the only source of "no ID" ????

He was leaving his shift. People in hospitals and almost every large workplace display at the very least work badges, and usually need them to get through doors, pick up prints at copiers, park their cars, etc.

MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Are you actually saying that Noem is the only source of "no ID" ????

Can you find a source other than Noem and other DHS spokespeople? Personally, I cannot.

 

[sds71]

Notice sent to congressional officials from U.S. Customs and Border Protection with details on fatal shooting of protester Alex Pretti says two federal immigration officials discharged their weapons, both Glocks. During the struggle, a Border Patrol yelled, "He’s got a gun!" multiple times. There's no mention of Pretti brandishing his gun prior to the shooting. Minutes before, at 9 a.m., a CBP officer was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles. The women were ordered to move out of the Minneapolis roadway, but did not move. Pretti was pronounced dead at 9:32 a.m

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016274044027543839

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016272904552325191

 

[waldojabba]

Humans are strange.

I have a funny feeling that changing "anti ICE protester" to "Pro Life protester" and..... a certain number of people would be dialing the prudence component of legal weapons carrying waaaay up.

Some of those same humans who now cry "murder" could well be crying "FAFO" regarding a pro lifer's decision to carry a weapon to a protest. Others would be "shocked and appalled" at the lack of personal responsibility.

Of course, others would strongly deny any personal bias and claim that human behavior is restricted solely to the humans on the other side.....

IMO
What they are protesting for or against is just noise or an attempt at distraction. In my mind it is neither here nor there- its just an attempt to deflect and redirect. The protesters have a right to be doing what they are doing per the LAW. Period. No matter who they are.

I support ICE - but not when they operate outside their parameters, use unnecessary force and kill someone - aka do not operate within the LAW - they need to be investigated and charges brought. Just like any other LE they need to follow the LAW.

I cannot imagine standing on a sidewalk in my town and have anyone push me over from behind purposely for no reason. I would call the police and file charges. Esp if it was a police officer that randomly pushed me over. If it happened in my house, it would be called domestic abuse and I would also file charges bc its not just appalling it is against the LAW. And that is just for starters.

This is not a Netflix series we are discussing or a fun debate to score points - its real life - there is a real dead man, a promising life cut short, a family left behind and so much collateral damage done. And for no reason - what happened was wrong and a big error in judgement. It needs to be investigated and charges brought imo.

There are mistakes made in any profession and there are bad apples in any profession. I think what we are seeing is the result of some bad apples being told to "unleash the hounds" by their superiors bc they have immunity ( which they don't). An investigation will hopefully get to the bottom of it.

To take and smear a victim or blame them or insinuate they are dead bc they should have stayed home, etc - How far have we fallen as a society to think any of this is okay.

JUST MY OPINION

 

[PrairieWind]

Are you actually saying that Noem is the only source of "no ID" ????

Who else would have that information?

 

[Inthedetails]

Notice sent to congressional officials from U.S. Customs and Border Protection with details on fatal shooting of protester Alex Pretti says two federal immigration officials discharged their weapons, both Glocks. During the struggle, a Border Patrol yelled, "He’s got a gun!" multiple times. There's no mention of Pretti brandishing his gun prior to the shooting. Minutes before, at 9 a.m., a CBP officer was confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles. The women were ordered to move out of the Minneapolis roadway, but did not move. Pretti was pronounced dead at 9:32 a.m

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016274044027543839

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016272904552325191

Reminder: he was shot multiple times

 

[Muddy K]

Thinking (haunted) nonstop about this catastrophic tragedy, the killing of Alex Pretti, and the previous catastrophic tragedy, the killing of Renee Macklin Good, and working hard to stay on focus and filter my thoughts through a true-crime framework, I think I've settled on some elements to consider.

I have to believe I'm not the only person here who, in the hours after Ms. Good was killed, feared such a shooting would happen again. Then it did. Now I'm waiting for the next one; I can't not.

IMO, pattern of criminal conduct may pertain here. These next few elements pertaining to pattern of criminal conduct are just my opinions/observations.

In both cases, agents believed themselves to be engaged in confontation with ordinary citizens.

In both cases, agents were not communicating with each other or the victims in a cohesive, consistent manner.

In both cases, de-escalation efforts were not undertaken by agents.

In both cases, weapons were quickly drawn and fired, resulting in near-immediate deaths.

In both cases, citizens with medical credentials were denied access to the victims.

In both cases, agents quickly vacated the scene.

I think there are other elements in both shootings that are indicative of a pattern of criminal conduct, but to start here is enough to raise my question, which is: Did the institution that employed, trained and deployed these agents in fact create the pattern of criminal conduct? If so, how does that institution face justice?

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I certainly dont see it that way. ICE has requested that Minneapolis police assist with crowd control in these situations. The Mayor wont allow it. They aren't asking MPD to help them with the immigration arrests, just to keep the peace. Isn't that a police department's job? Neither one of these fatal shootings would have happened if police had been on scene to help with crowd control.

Was there a problem with crowd control? Do you have a link that suggests the crowd was rowdy? From what I see, it was several groups of citizens exercising their right to protest. Where does crowd control come in and how does it prevent an agent from tackling a man to the ground and shooting him in the back multiple times despite neutralizing any potential threat?

MOO.

 

[MrsWatson]

He was leaving his shift. People in hospitals and almost every large workplace display at the very least work badges, and usually need them to get through doors, pick up prints at copiers, park their cars, etc.

MOO

I have no doubt there was a lanyard with a picture ID somewhere on his person.

jmo

 

[SouthAussie]

I have to believe I'm not the only person here who, in the hours after Ms. Good was killed, feared such a shooting would happen again. Then it did. Now I'm waiting for the next one; I can't not.

I was thinking the same thing the other day. How many more US citizens are going to be killed by ICE?

In Renee's and Alex's cases, they didn't even get 'thoughts and prayers' from the administration.

imo

 

[Amonet]

That lacks logic as from all reports ICE was busy shoving women to the ground and weren’t even aware of the gun held legally by the gentleman Nurse assisting a brutally attacked women.

It appears the [mod ship] murdered the Nurse because they were enraged he was providing care to their victim not becouse of a gun that they didn’t know of.

I hope it wasn’t too late to do drug tests on those ICE officers.


Imo

I'm afraid it does appear that they were angry that someone tried to go to the aid of someone they had shoved to the ground. And that they really took out that anger on Mr Pretti. Someone helping the woman to her feet and checking she's okay wouldn't have interfered with their duties.

I don't think this is behaviour becoming of LE.

I've also noticed disagreement when some posters have used the word "murder" about this incident. I think it's fair to say that those officers didn't have intent to kill before Mr Pretti was on the ground. But what about manslaughter instead of "murder"? Sometimes people can use those two words interchangeably in common speech even though they have different legal meanings.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Keep in mind that Minnesota law states that the permit to carry must be on the person when they carry along with ID. He did not have those. So, he may not have been lawfully carrying.

Minneapolis shooting: What we know about death of Alex Pretti

Trump officials says federal agents shot in self-defence, as Pretti's parents accuse them of "sickening lies".

www.bbc.com

That would only be relevant if they had asked him for it, which they did not before they pumped him full of lead. And also, before we assume he didn't follow the law, I'd like some evidence. Media parrots what the administration tells them and they've already lied about this situation ("brandishing" his gun?) and been proven to be liars by video. So their credibility is nil, in my book.

MOO.

 

[Emerald1328]

Leaving this here in case anyone is interested.

CBP Use of Force policy documents:

Use of Force Policy and Administrative Guidelines and Procedures Handbook

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

CBP database of policies, procedures and directives:

Policies, Procedures and Directives

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

ICE Use of Force policy:

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/detention-standards/2011/2-15.pdf

ICE database of policies, procedures and manuals:

FOIA ICE Library (You will have to select Policies, Procedures and Manuals under the Category drop down)

DHS Use of Force policy:

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-02/23_0206_s1_use-of-force-policy-update.pdf

 

[Emerald1328]

I certainly dont see it that way. ICE has requested that Minneapolis police assist with crowd control in these situations. The Mayor wont allow it. They aren't asking MPD to help them with the immigration arrests, just to keep the peace. Isn't that a police department's job? Neither one of these fatal shootings would have happened if police had been on scene to help with crowd control.

There are approximately 600 police officers in Minneapolis and 3,000 ICE/CBP agents. If police officers are expected to assist them with protestors, then it is completely irresponsible of the government to have that many agents there conducting operations. Many videos I’ve seen coming out of Minneapolis of ICE/CBP seems to have 10 agents on every operation (who knows why they would need 10 people to capture 1 bad guy though).

I’ll be completely generous in my math here. Let’s say 25% of the agents have the day off in any given day (not likely). That leaves 2,250 agents conducting operations in a given day. Let’s say 250 of those are doing administrative tasks and aren’t in the field. So probably, at the very least, 2,000 agents conducting operations a day, at minimum. Let’s say each operation takes 10 people. So that’s 200 operations a day. If the police had to put even one of their officers on each operation for crowd control, that would be 200 of 600 police officers unable to help residents of their city. 1/3 of the police force. Even less than that as I suspect only 400 or so work at a given time because of different shifts, vacations, training, etc - so half of their available police force. How inappropriate of our government to take away police officers from Minneapolis citizens. Who would protect them from all the illegal immigrants in the city until they were able to round them all up?

 

[SouthAussie]

i wonder if any drug tests were done on the ice agents? because this behavior is so unhinged, it makes me wonder if they were sober? and i hope they look into how they have handled previous cases, because does a person really go from doing his job well to this? it’s a big escalation. jmo.

Regular steroid use can also lead to roid rage. I believe roid rage is a quick escalation.

In the case of the journalist being offered an ICE job, she had used marijuana prior to her drug testing. Still passed.

(I read her entire article in Slate. Her Slate article is linked within the previous Guardian article I linked. She speaks of steroids due to the appearance of others applying for an ICE job at the same time that she applied in person.)

imo


“Nine days later, impatience got the best of me. For the first time, I logged into USAJobs and checked my application to see if my drug test had come through. What I actually saw was so implausible, so impossible, that at first I did not understand what I was looking at,” she wrote.

She discovered that ICE appeared to have formally offered her a job even though she had not submitted key documents, including a domestic violence affidavit, background check authorization, or identification details. Her onboarding status was shown as “Entered on Duty.”

Anti-Trump US reporter says she was offered job at ICE after ‘minimal vetting’

Slate journalist Laura Jedeed documented hiring process and said she got offer despite not completing paperwork

www.theguardian.com

 

[Amonet]

ICE is there trying to do their jobs and mobs keep interfering. If people just videoed from the sidewalk etc there wouldn't be a problem.

Although he had stepped into the road, it appeared that Mr Pretti was basically just videotaping what was happening. Then he moved to go to the assistance of a woman who'd been shoved, and that's when the situation severely deteriorated. I think this is why so many people are upset as he does seem to be doing more or less what you're suggesting should be acceptable?

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Can you please show in that article where it says he didn’t have his permit on him? I read it twice and never saw anything that said that. You stated it like it was a fact.

Edit, I apologize, I did see the quote in the article about him not having ID.

From the article:
"
After the shooting, DHS shared a photo of a firearm on social media, which they said belonged to Pretti. The agency also said he had two magazines of ammunition and no ID.

Bovino told reporters it looked like a "situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement". He did not provide any further evidence."

I wouldn't believe one single solitary word that comes out of Bovino or anyone in the administration in this matter. They have literally lied from the start, even in that article by claiming how violent Pretti was, as if we didn't see it unfold with our own eyes.

MOO.

 

[Oakland CA]

NEW: US Customs & Border Protection distributes its official "in-custody death notification" for Alex Pretti

Feds began providing medical aid at 902am

Minneapolis fire/EMS arrived to provide aid at 905am

Pretti was placed in ambulance at 914am

Pronounced dead at 932am

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016270591595315659

For perspective, could someone add into the timeline...

- What time the first of the ten shots was fired
- The time that the ice guys started rifling through the victim's pockets and/or rolling his body
around to count the bullet wounds.

Thanks