MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[keek]

Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…

Trump Administration Moves to Deport More Than 500,000 Lawful Immigrants After Stripping Them of Their Status

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a notice today to all beneficiaries of the humanitarian parole pathway for people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela (“CHNV” humanitarian parole) directing them to “self-deport” immediately. This...

justiceactioncenter.org

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/23/nx-s1-5653364/trump-policies-leave-historic-number-of-legal-immigrants-at-risk-for-deportation

“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/23/us/liam-conejo-ramos-ice-wwk

NOT at all. I don't think some want to have to pay attention to the reality going on. Suits them. These are the ones, the assaulting of people, detaining and causing physical harm to them that don't make national news. There are SO many more, there has to be going by the mentality and go ahead of the admin. as we've seen. It was OK to kill and condoned. IMO

 

[Summerliz03]

Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…

Trump Administration Moves to Deport More Than 500,000 Lawful Immigrants After Stripping Them of Their Status

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a notice today to all beneficiaries of the humanitarian parole pathway for people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela (“CHNV” humanitarian parole) directing them to “self-deport” immediately. This...

justiceactioncenter.org

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/23/nx-s1-5653364/trump-policies-leave-historic-number-of-legal-immigrants-at-risk-for-deportation

“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/23/us/liam-conejo-ramos-ice-wwk

ETA another example of two children being deported that were U.S Citizens:

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf

“NBC News reports that, according to a lawyer with the National Immigration Project, the two children, ages 4 and 7, were put on their mother’s deportation flight the day after they were all detained on April 24.”

There’s also stories like this, a Maryland woman who was born in the US was detained for 25 days, despite her lawyers presenting her US birth certificate. She was finally released in early January. Where exactly were they going to deport her to?

Maryland woman who says she is US citizen finally released from ICE custody

Dulce Consuelo Díaz Morales was held for 25 days even after attorneys said they presented ICE with US birth certificate

www.theguardian.com

 

[Inthedetails]

There’s also stories like this, a Maryland woman who was born in the US was detained for 25 days, despite her lawyers presenting her US birth certificate. She was finally released in early January. Where exactly were they going to deport her to?

Maryland woman who says she is US citizen finally released from ICE custody

Dulce Consuelo Díaz Morales was held for 25 days even after attorneys said they presented ICE with US birth certificate

www.theguardian.com

Betcha anything ICE will count people like this when they brag how many people they have found. imo

jmopinion

 

[witchway]

I haven't been on in a long time, however I hoped my fellow sleuths might be finding details to help explain what looks like from the video stills to be the second public assasination of a law abiding citizen. Has anyone identified the woman Pretti was trying to help and where she is now?

• Identification and Account: The woman, who has not been widely named in all reports but is identified in some legal contexts as a legal observer, recently filed a sworn affidavit. She stated she had been shoved to the ground by federal agents and that Alex Pretti moved toward her to shield and help her up.
• Legal Status: She and another woman were reportedly detained at the scene, held for approximately an hour, and then released with a citation for impeding federal officers.
• Current Involvement: She is now a central witness in legal filings demanding an independent investigation into the shooting. In her statement, she described locking eyes with Pretti moments before the gunfire and emphasized that his focus was entirely on her safety.

Source Court Affidavits

 

[303gmf]

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Your consideration notwithstanding, they are illegal immigrants. They have entered our country illegally, i.e. they have broken the law.

My empathy is for humans, shame many have none and don’t see hardworking fellow humans as worthy of such

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[southgoldengirl]

A list of grievances against the British Crown by the signatories of the Declaration of Independence

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

The similarities of what is occurring in the US today is looking pretty uncanny to me.

 

[branmuffin]

It won’t change anything.

Remember all the campaign against George Floyd? It didn’t reach the goal because regardless of who Floyd was, and his prior history, a policeman, Chauvin, had no legal right to treat him like it.

And later, it led to lots of protests that shook the country, and good cops also took the blame, and were defunded, and I doubt that any of them supports Chauvin.

This situation is very different, politically, but I doubt that any of the group who killed Pretti is going to be promoted for it.

All those involved in killing of Alex Pretti need to be known, the contents of Pretti’s phone have to be given to his family, it was his intellectual property, and if the DSHS extends immunity to his executioners, then Minnesota will decide what to do.

I hope every single one of those ICE agents are identified. They cannot hide behind immunity and anonymity. If Tyre Nichols' killers can be identified so can they. Whether they are charged or convicted is irrelevant. Their character flaws should be exposed so they never work in LE ever again.

 

[Inthedetails]

A list of grievances against the British Crown by the signatories of the Declaration of Independence



















The similarities of what is occurring in the US today is looking pretty uncanny to me.

Me too.

The patriots in the 1770s were angry, among other things, about British military entering homes to search and seize without warrant.

Sound familiar?

That grievance eventually was remedied with our 4th amendment.

Some people right now seem okay for ICE to work without warrants. I wish people would review history before cheering while our Bill of Rights are violated.

That's not even counting the other, more well-known, amendments. Don't forget the 4th!

Just My Patriotic Opinion

The Bill of Rights: A Transcription

Note: The following text is a transcription of the enrolled original of the Joint Resolution of Congress proposing the Bill of Rights, which is on permanent display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum. The spelling and punctuation reflects the original. On September 25, 1789, the...

www.archives.gov

 

[zleuther]

I predict two shooters will be charged.

Furthermore, I predict based on opinion and based on what's missing in the details, that conspiracy-related crimes will be charged. After the shooting, DHS Bovino stated a name. My opinion is they scrambled to completely fabricate the notion that there was a target -- Jose Huerta-Chuma. I predict there will be no DHS document nor communication that can be produced from before Saturday to support ANY planning/targeting him. Bovino likely in my opinion told somebody quick pull some name off a list somewhere. All solely my opinion.

Minnesota Attorney General discusses lack of DHS transparency that to me is additional grounds for conspiracy charges...

 

[Sundog]

Brave, brave immigrant young men and women. Some families carrying babies, taking a huge leap of hope and faith. Little money at all, just believing. Could 'you' of done what your ancestors did? The long and not pleasant AT ALL boat ride across the oceans. Not a cruise. Leaving their parents, sisters, brothers and childhood friends. Fortunate are we that do know at least some of our recent immigrant family members, and I mean past 100 years, while we could in younger days, such as grandparents. The sorrows of leaving their families because THEY HAD to for money to save themselves and their families back home. Just like today. Just like today. Immigration changed, huge money is needed. The 'hated ones' are coming from dirt. No money to be made. How VERY fortunate 'you' are if your ancestors braved all to come here and where 'you' enjoy all the comforts they provided for you. 'You' need to know why they came here even if from a country that is just fine now. It obviously wasn't for them at the time. IMO

Yes, that's the story of many legal immigrants to the U.S. Both our ancestors and our present day legal immigrants. And the people of the U.S. support those of us who have made this journey legally.

 

[Inthedetails]

An ICE agent on Tuesday attempted to forcibly enter Ecuador's consulate in Minneapolis, according to the country's Foreign Affairs Ministry.

The big picture: Federal agents, under international law, are generally not allowed to enter an embassy or consulate without permission of the consul or ambassador.

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/28/ice-trump-minnesota-minneapolis-ecuador-consulate

 

[nao]

Yes, that's the story of many legal immigrants to the U.S. Both our ancestors and our present day legal immigrants d. And the people of the U.S. support those of us who have made this journey legally.

Moo..I understand, the want and need to deport illegal peoples. But my understanding is there has always been ice and deportations. Watching this from out side of USA it reminds me of a first person video game...which is kinda creepy. The masks you cannot see a person's emotions and it allows person to feel anonymous. No reason they should be wearing masks to hide their identity. Local LE does not hide their identity. And local LE do not like ice....local LE feel protective of the people they ...serve and protect

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey folks,

Websleuths does not normally allow discussion of immigration.

As immigration is the reason ICE is in Minnesota, we are making an exception that members may discuss immigration but ONLY as it relates to Minnesota and this case.

 

[Snoopster]

Hey folks,

Websleuths does not normally allow discussion of immigration.

As immigration is the reason ICE is in Minnesota, we are making an exception that members may discuss immigration but ONLY as it relates to Minnesota and this case.

We know you guys are doing your best, so thank you! These are challenging times.

 

[keek]

Yes, that's the story of many legal immigrants to the U.S. Both our ancestors and our present day legal immigrants. And the people of the U.S. support those of us who have made this journey legally.

Not a priority to all people of the U.S., there seems to be another agenda really for those whose priority is about 'the illegals'. Looks like the people of the U.S. are seeing this and what has happened before their eyes is not acceptable, the violence unleashed on LEGALS or suspected illegals. Payup time seems to be in the works fortunately due to the people of the U.S. feeling a bit uncomfortable the past weeks with what they have seen with their own eyes. IMO

 

[Snoopster]

Yes, that's the story of many legal immigrants to the U.S. Both our ancestors and our present day legal immigrants. And the people of the U.S. support those of us who have made this journey legally.

Agree.
But we've seen some people who are here legally being arrested without due cause. Without due process. I think we can all agree that that is not right. It destroys lives as people are detained and then lose their job for not showing up to work. So people are protesting since there is no due process. There is no thought to destroying lives, most often based on someone's looks. Can we agree on that? Can we agree that ICE/CBP should at least show just cause?

Where we might differ in opinion is on the illegals. This is a much more touchy topic. Where is the line when someone, who was brought to the US as a young infant and who is now 37 years old, and knows nothing other than the US, is considered a criminal? What if they've been working their entire adult life and contributing taxes and paying for other Americans? Yes, this is trickier.

Newer immigrants are less tricky to deal with in my opinion. They came to USA illegally and they need to prove that they should be in the US. They should go to court to do that. They shouldn't be aggressively hauled from their houses; from their schools; from their work. Just set up a process to legally process them in a timely manner. But it seems to me that the US government admin is casting them all as 'violent criminals'. They are using fear to create hatred. And the hatred is directed at everyone in my previous comments and even beyond. It's using fear to create hatred of anyone who looks a certain way (i.e. not white).

This is just my take but I would appreciate your views on this.
Who are you truly concerned about? Do you actually believe that most immigrants are violent criminals? How should LE act in response to find the true violent criminals? How should they identify illegal immigrants other than by just guessing at their skin color?

 

[zleuther]

Here's the AI-style specifics of the legal risks DHS management may have exposed themselves to...

Under Minnesota law, if two or more people agree to commit an act of obstruction (such as destroying evidence, tampering with witnesses, or hindering an investigation) and at least one of them takes an "overt act" in furtherance of that plan, they can be charged with conspiracy in addition to the underlying obstruction offense.

Here is how obstruction of justice and conspiracy interact under Minnesota law:

1. Conspiracy to Commit Obstruction (MN Statute 609.175)

Definition: Conspiracy requires an agreement between two or more people to commit a crime (in this case, obstruction) and an "overt act" in furtherance of that agreement.

Application: If you and another person plan to hide evidence, and one of you actually hides it, both can be charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice, even if the investigation is not successfully thwarted.

2. Aiding an Offender / Obstruction of Investigation (MN Statute 609.495)

Minnesota law specifically penalizes "Obstructing investigation" as a form of being an accomplice after the fact.

Subd. 3 states that whoever intentionally aids another person known to have committed a crime, by destroying/concealing evidence, or providing false information, can be charged.

This act of aiding/obstructing, if done in agreement with the offender or others, easily transitions into a conspiracy charge (609.175).

3. Key Scenarios for Combined Charges

Witness Tampering: If two people agree to threaten a witness to prevent them from testifying, they can be charged with both conspiracy (agreement) and the substantive act of obstruction (interference).

If multiple people coordinate to...help someone evade arrest, it constitutes conspiracy to obstruct.

 

[Summerliz03]

The woman wearing the pink jacket who took the close up video of the shooting has given an interview to CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/stella-carlson-alex-pretti-witness-video

 

[acutename]

<modsnip: OP removed due to no source to image>


not the OP but this article has a picture:

Alex Pretti's parents detail last conversation with son before killing

Susan Pretti, his mother, also said he was troubled by the direction of the US- especially the Trump administration's rollback of environmental regulations.

www.dailymail.co.uk

they look different here- hope the DM has it right

 

[sunshineray]

There is no "humanitarian duty" to interfere with federal immigration officers who are following the law and arresting illegal immigrants. The humanitarian duty would have been to never encourage millions of people to enter our country illegally.

But do they all have warrants signed by a judge? That's a question I'd like a definitive answer to...it's important, according to The Constitution.

And having to carry your birth certificate and/or passport for ID. A regular driver's license just not good enough, not even a Real ID which can get you on a plane and even inside a nuclear facility.

If you don't have ID they're happy with, you get carted away to mostly out of state places for who knows how long. And this is happening to citizens. Wouldn't anybody resist and speak up for themselves or others, especially if they started roughing you or some other unfortunate person up? I certainly would.

I'd say, IMO, until well trained real LE who know that people have rights and respect that show up, it is a humanitarian issue to being very concerned about...as an American. AJMO