MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Summerliz03]

The Minnesota National Guard (under Governor Walz’s order) have been giving out donuts and coffee to anti-ICE protestors today.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015515107363549485

 

[Ray_of_hope]

I think that one of the most disturbing parts of the videos is that, after he was shot several times, ICE agents start playing with the body - rifling through his pockets, shoving him around, looking like pick pockets.

I hope Alex's parents don't see those videos. Totally disrespectful way to deal with a deceased person. This and another case have gutted me. A brother nurse. A compassionate man helping others. I watched a video where Alex read a beautiful piece to eulogize a deceased veteran whom was surrounded by staff. The veteran's body was draped on a stretcher. He was a patient of Alex's that had died. The veteran was treated with dignity and respect. What a contrast in the way that Alex handled the veteran's death and the desecration at Alex's passing. I am both outraged and despondent.

 

[otto]

If we want to change the Constitution, there's a process for that. But in the meantime, the articles and videos posted throughout this thread show, without a doubt in my mind, that Pretti was acting within his Constitutional rights. He had a right to be there. He had a right to be observing/filming (there's no stipulation on distance). He had a right to have a gun in its holster. He had a right to help a woman off the ground.

So is the argument that one can now be justifiably killed by the government for exercising their rights as American citizens? I don't get it.

MOO.

Please note: analyzing the events that unfolded does not equate with declaring that the shooting was justified.

But, there's always a but ... the woman in the white coat and black toque, who was eventually shoved by ICE, was talking to ICE agents when everything went wrong. Why was she, an "observer", talking to ICE agents? Could that be interpreted as crossing the line of non-interference with federal ICE agents conducting an arrest? That interaction triggered everything that followed.

green: white Coat woman following ICE agents, talking to him
red: Ice Agent looking back at white coat woman
Pretti: escorting a woman away from possible confrontation?

green: white coat woman is still interacting with ICE agent
red: ICE agent giving her his full attention
Pretti: looking back and paying attention to white coat woman

green: white coat woman still talking to ICE agent ... saying what?
red: ICE agent shoves woman in white coat
Pretti: giving full attention to woman talking to ICE agent

green: woman in white coat slipped and fell on snow
red: ICE agent grabbing Pretti's hand
Pretti: stepped in between ICE agent and woman who was talking to ICE agent

When the nurse (Pretti) tried to help the woman in the white coat stand up, ICE agents may have assumed that they were together. That is when more agents approached and tackled Pretti.

If the woman in the white coat had observed, and not interacted with ICE agents, would Pretti have been shot?

Guardian News:

 

[sds71]

The University of Minnesota mourns the tragic loss of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a 2011 graduate of the University’s College of Liberal Arts. During this time we lean on our shared values of inclusion, community, belonging and safety.
We ask for care for one another and a commitment to seek understanding and healing.
https://president.umn.edu/events-minnesota

 

[otto]

And before this happened, Pretti had an earlier interaction with ICE agents.

see video

Beelden van doodgeschoten burger Minneapolis spreken kamp-Trump tegen

Uit de video's en ooggetuigenverslagen blijkt dat Pretti geen wapen in zijn handen hield, maar juist een telefoon. Deze feiten staan haaks op uitspraken van de federale overheid.

nos.nl

 

[acutename]

Mmmhm, saw and thought this as well, possibly hoping to disguise it as 'first aid' imo.

looking for the ID they said he did not have on him? did he just walk there not drive?

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Please note: analyzing the events that unfolded does not equate with declaring that the shooting was justified.

But, there's always a but ... the woman in the white coat and black toque, who was eventually shoved by ICE, was talking to ICE agents when everything went wrong. Why was she, an "observer", talking to ICE agents?

Why wouldn't she? There is no rule that she isn't allowed to talk to ICE agents. And do we know that they didn't engage her first?

Could that be interpreted as crossing the line of non-interference with federal ICE agents conducting an arrest? That interaction triggered everything that followed.

I don't know what purpose it would serve to try to decipher what ICE agents interpreted as (a) none of us know, (b) none of us will ever truly know, (c) none of it justifies killing someone in the back numerous times, IMO. But let's just say we wanted to go there, there is no law that they're not allowed to communicate with ICE and there's no evidence whatsoever (that I'm aware of) that shows her interfering with operations.

green: white Coat woman following ICE agents, talking to him
red: Ice Agent looking back at white coat woman
Pretti: escorting a woman away from possible confrontation?
View attachment 639568

green: white coat woman is still interacting with ICE agent
red: ICE agent giving her his full attention
Pretti: looking back and paying attention to white coat woman
View attachment 639569

green: white coat woman still talking to ICE agent ... saying what?
red: ICE agent shoves woman in white coat
Pretti: giving full attention to woman talking to ICE agent
View attachment 639570

green: woman in white coat slipped and fell on snow
red: ICE agent grabbing Pretti's hand
Pretti: stepped in between ICE agent and woman who was talking to ICE agent
View attachment 639574

When the nurse (Pretti) tried to help the woman in the white coat stand up, ICE agents may have assumed that they were together. That is when more agents approached and tackled Pretti.

If the woman in the white coat had observed, and not interacted with ICE agents, would Pretti have been shot?

Guardian News:

I mean, we can probably play that game a few different ways. If ICE had been better trained, would Pretti have been shot? If national leaders had toned down the rhetoric, would Pretti have been shot? If the Good investigation hadn't been halted before it even started, would Pretti have been shot? The bottom line is blaming a bystander or even wondering about her contribution in a situation where a federal agent discharged his weapon (10 times? Not sure how many) into a person who was no longer a threat is a waste of time, IMO.

MOO.

 

[Strangeworld]

As an Aussie, and reflecting on this especially today as it is Australia Day, it is heartbreaking how much some US people continue to defend violence and deaths to avoid facing the reality that maybe their 'beliefs' can shift. That noone is going to be upset if they let go of their pride and say you know what, this is too much. This isn't what our country was created on. This doesn't bring the US pride, nor the people pride, it actually erodes it nationally and on the international stage.

It's okay for people to step back, and go this has gone too far. It is okay to say what I once supported has evolved into a space that I'm no longer comfortable with.

I think the best test for this is imagine you or your loved one in any of these situations. Either those killing others, or the ones being killed. You or your loved one might not even be involved in a protest but just walking past and a stray bullet kills you. Does it still feel right? Would you still be praising where your country is at?

I hope the US can come back from this, but I think its going to be a VERY long time before the trust and respect is regained by the world.

 

[JennieM]

'This helpful, smiling joking guy was being labelled a terrorist?' - Alex Pretti's colleague​

Neighbours and colleagues of Alex Pretti have been paying tribute after his death, speaking to US news outlets.

Doctor Dmitri Drekonja, who worked with Pretti, told ABC News the pair had bonded over their love of mountain biking and they would compare notes on which trails to ride in the Twin Cities region.

"He was the type of person you enjoyed being around and the notion that this helpful, smiling joking guy was being labelled a terrorist? It's galling," he said.

Sue Gitar, who lived downstairs from the nurse, said he lived alone and worked long hours. “He has a great heart,” she told the Associated Press.

Another neighbour Jeanne Wiener told the New York Times she used to “talk over the fence all the time” with Pretti.

“He’s the sweetest, kindest, most unoffensive, most nonviolent person you’d ever want to meet,” she said.

Minneapolis live: Protesters gather in Minneapolis as governor calls on Trump to remove agents after shooting

Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old nurse, was killed by federal immigration officers in Minneapolis on Saturday.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ruminations]

They seem to be having more pressers than in Renee's case.
Maybe they are getting a lot more push-back for this killing.

imo

Yes. Because this is the second time, and because an additional civil liberty is being threatened.


Right to carry arms advocates were troubled about the immediate statement and photo of a gun, used as a pretext for shooting, when by all appearances on several videos it was clear that the victim carried his gun legally and properly, and never did brandish it or even touch it.

MOO

 

[otto]

Why wouldn't she? There is no rule that she isn't allowed to talk to ICE agents. And do we know that they didn't engage her first?



I don't know what purpose it would serve to try to decipher what ICE agents interpreted as (a) none of us know, (b) none of us will ever truly know, (c) none of it justifies killing someone in the back numerous times, IMO. But let's just say we wanted to go there, there is no law that they're not allowed to communicate with ICE and there's no evidence whatsoever (that I'm aware of) that shows her interfering with operations.



I mean, we can probably play that game a few different ways. If ICE had been better trained, would Pretti have been shot? If national leaders had toned down the rhetoric, would Pretti have been shot? If the Good investigation hadn't been halted before it even started, would Pretti have been shot? The bottom line is blaming a bystander or even wondering about her contribution in a situation where a federal agent discharged his weapon (10 times? Not sure how many) into a person who was no longer a threat is a waste of time, IMO.

MOO.

Per the media interview with the ICE department (linked upthread), he said that civilians should not interfere with the duties of federal officers. Observing is fine, taking video is fine. In both of these screen shots, it does not look like a friendly conversation. In my opinion, it looks like a confrontation.

see video

Beelden van doodgeschoten burger Minneapolis spreken kamp-Trump tegen

Uit de video's en ooggetuigenverslagen blijkt dat Pretti geen wapen in zijn handen hield, maar juist een telefoon. Deze feiten staan haaks op uitspraken van de federale overheid.

nos.nl

Guardian News video

There's no question that excessive force was used, but it doesn't appear to start with excessive force. It appears to start with confrontations between protesters and ICE agents.

 

[Mmcgirl13]

But, there's always a but ... the woman in the white coat and black toque, who was eventually shoved by ICE, was talking to ICE agents when everything went wrong. Why was she, an "observer", talking to ICE agents? Could that be interpreted as crossing the line of non-interference with federal ICE agents conducting an arrest? That interaction triggered everything that followed.

"You may not speak to law enforcement officers operating on a public street or else you may get another bystander mistakenly shot ten times in the back" is not the America my ancestors fought and died to protect. The rules of force on civilians for law enforcement are meant to reflect a standard of utmost responsibility and restraint, not give armed agents every possible benefit of the doubt and the right to make countless mistakes resulting in the deaths of bystanders with no repercussions.

JMO

 

[JennieM]

I think that the donut shop owner just locked the door?


Bovino said that the operation in Minneapolis had originally been targeting Jose Huerta-Chuma, who he described as a dangerous undocumented immigrant who needed to be taken off the streets.

He said Huerta-Chuma was in the process of being taken into custody when “agitators, rioters and anarchists” prevented the arrest.

According to DOC records and Minnesota court data, the individual has never been in Minnesota DOC custody and has no felony commitments.

Minneapolis shooting: Obama and Clinton urge Americans to ‘stand up’ as more Republicans call for an investigation – live

Some elected officials condemn Trump’s federal surge in Minnesota and say DHS agents should leave Minnesota

www.theguardian.com

The shop owner had the door locked all day. The ICE did not have a warrant so they did not let them in. The shop owner’s account is in this previous post.

J

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Jan 24, 2026

Witness describes moments before shooting
Louis Krauss

Willow Lamar, a manager at Glam Doll Donuts, said they saw the shooting as it happened from inside the store this morning and filmed the video that has circulated widely online.

Before the shooting, Lamar said, agents were chasing someone who they let into the store.

The store had been keeping the door locked that day, and when agents approached the doughnut shop, they did not present a warrant, Lamar said, so they refused them entry.

After that the agents went back to their vehicles, and more federal officer cars...

• JennieM

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[JennieM]

Per the media interview with the ICE department (linked upthread), he said that civilians should not interfere with the duties of federal officers. Observing is fine, taking video is fine. In both of these screen shots, it does not look like a friendly conversation. In my opinion, it looks like a confrontation.

View attachment 639617
see video

Beelden van doodgeschoten burger Minneapolis spreken kamp-Trump tegen

Uit de video's en ooggetuigenverslagen blijkt dat Pretti geen wapen in zijn handen hield, maar juist een telefoon. Deze feiten staan haaks op uitspraken van de federale overheid.

nos.nl

View attachment 639618
Guardian News video

There's no question that excessive force was used, but it doesn't appear to start with excessive force. It appears to start with confrontations between protesters and ICE agents.

The ICE approached Alex and pushed him. Then moments later they were all on top of him and killed him.

 

[Inthedetails]

The family of Renee Good, who was killed by an ICE officer in south Minneapolis less than three weeks ago, issued a statement following the killing of Minneapolis resident Alex Pretti.

"The events of this weekend in Minneapolis are terrifying, deeply disturbing, and heartbreaking - with yet another U.S. citizen losing their life while taking part in the time-honored and Constitutionally protected activity of being present to observe and peacefully advocate for their beliefs. We urge all Americans to trust their own eyes as they interpret the horrific video, and to call for an absolute end to ICE activity in Minneapolis. It has clearly gone too far and strayed far beyond its stated mission of removing criminal non-citizens from the country. It is time for a hard reset," the statement read. "ICE agents can leave Minneapolis. The residents of Minnesota cannot. We call for a complete and immediate end to the ICE invasion of this beautiful American city."

Bovino, some Border Patrol agents to leave Minneapolis soon, sources tell CBS News

U.S. Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to soon leave the Minneapolis area, two sources familiar with the move told CBS News Monday.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[otto]

"You may not speak to law enforcement officers operating on a public street or else you may get another bystander mistakenly shot ten times in the back" is not the America my ancestors fought and died to protect. The rules of force on civilians for law enforcement are meant to reflect a standard of utmost responsibility and restraint, not give armed agents every possible benefit of the doubt and the right to make countless mistakes resulting in the deaths of bystanders with no repercussions.

JMO

Please note: analyzing the events that led up to the shooting does not equate with believing that the shooting was justified.

It appears that Pretti had a conversation with the ICE officers earlier, and then he was in the middle of an ICE officer shoving the woman in the white coat.

 

[keek]

The ICE approached Alex and pushed him. Then moments later they were all on top of him and killed him.

End of.

 

[Ruminations]

Mmmhm, saw and thought this as well, possibly hoping to disguise it as 'first aid' imo.

A witness/physician who gave a sworn statement that he was temporarily prevented from rendering aid but was allowed to help ultimately. He said that the federal agents had Alex on his side rather than on his back to do chest compressions, and he stated that it appeared to him that the agents were counting bullet wounds.

'Counting his bullet wounds.' Witness details Pretti killing in court filing

The witness declared under oath that Pretti did not use a weapon. Afterwards federal agents appeared to be counting Pretti’s "bullet wounds," the witness wrote.

www.yahoo.com

MOO

 

[acutename]

Please note: analyzing the events that unfolded does not equate with declaring that the shooting was justified.

But, there's always a but ... the woman in the white coat and black toque, who was eventually shoved by ICE, was talking to ICE agents when everything went wrong. Why was she, an "observer", talking to ICE agents? Could that be interpreted as crossing the line of non-interference with federal ICE agents conducting an arrest? That interaction triggered everything that followed.

green: white Coat woman following ICE agents, talking to him
red: Ice Agent looking back at white coat woman
Pretti: escorting a woman away from possible confrontation?
View attachment 639568

green: white coat woman is still interacting with ICE agent
red: ICE agent giving her his full attention
Pretti: looking back and paying attention to white coat woman
View attachment 639569

green: white coat woman still talking to ICE agent ... saying what?
red: ICE agent shoves woman in white coat
Pretti: giving full attention to woman talking to ICE agent
View attachment 639570

green: woman in white coat slipped and fell on snow
red: ICE agent grabbing Pretti's hand
Pretti: stepped in between ICE agent and woman who was talking to ICE agent
View attachment 639574

When the nurse (Pretti) tried to help the woman in the white coat stand up, ICE agents may have assumed that they were together. That is when more agents approached and tackled Pretti.

If the woman in the white coat had observed, and not interacted with ICE agents, would Pretti have been shot?

Guardian News:

do the ICE officers ask people to step back and then push them if they do not move? The shoving of the woman in the white coat seems aggressive but I have not personally seen any of these actions. She does wind up on the ground.

 

[SouthAussie]

Please note: analyzing the events that led up to the shooting does not equate with believing that the shooting was justified.

It appears that Pretti had a conversation with the ICE officers earlier, and then he was in the middle of an ICE officer shoving the woman in the white coat.

People standing up for their 1st amendment rights, Otto. Freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition.

imo