MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[BeginnerSleuther]

He had a high caliber weapon, a super duper gun - it was simultaneously the gun being taken and ice shooting, how was ice supposed to know he wasn't reaching for another weapon or the exact one that was being removed from him, they were protecting the ice agents as they should of been - he shouldn't of been fighting w/ICE nor had any weapon to use against ICE <modsnip: Thread is not about immigration policy>

He wasn't fighting with ICE that I've seen in any video. Do you have a link to suggest he was fighting with ICE? Also, until we amend the Constitution to get rid of the second amendment, it's his right to carry a gun.

MOO.

 

[Sundog]

Well written doesn’t mean it is factual or legal.

Coercion is not a good look

I don't see any coercion in the letter, just our AG addressing issues related to fraud in Minnesota along with illegal immigrants and their removal according to U.S. law.

 

[Inthedetails]

rbbm
They would still arrest criminal undocumented immigrants. We don’t see this occurring at the same level in other states. In my opinion, ICE is permitted to remove criminal undocumented immigrants from jails in other states. Maybe we can agree that this doesn’t need to play out on the streets in the way that it has been. I see it as a compromise. imo

From the letter -
Second, repeal the sanctuary policies that have led to so much crime and violence in your state. Removing criminal illegal aliens from Minnesota neighborhoods will save lives, and state and local officials should support this goal. All detention facilities in your state should cooperate fully with ICE, honor immigration detainers, and permit ICE to interview detainees in custody to determine immigration status. I urge you to reach an agreement with ICE that allows them to remove illegal aliens in custody of Minnesota's prisons and jails and avoids pushing these interactions into your streets.

WSers know the difference between jail and prison so I'll skip the article's definitions. Here are a few facts, but there are more at the link:

• The Trump Administration claims Minnesota jails and prisons are releasing the "worst of the worst" instead of allowing ICE to immediately detain them for deportation.
• But many of the detainees highlighted by ICE haven’t been behind bars in Minnesota for several years or haven’t served any time at all in the state, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators....

Minnesota law requires DOC to notify ICE when a person committed to DOC custody is not a U.S. citizen. DOC also honors all ICE detainers and coordinates transfers when ICE requests pickup.

Some county jails in Minnesota, most notably Hennepin County, do not honor ICE detainers.
That means the jail will not hold an inmate for ICE to pick up unless agents have a warrant signed by a judge.

More at the link:

Records undercut ICE claims that MN jails, prisons release 'worst of the worst'

The Trump Administration has repeatedly blamed county and state officials in Minnesota for releasing violent criminals from jail or prison instead of handing them over to ICE for deportation. But many of those detainees have no criminal records in Minnesota or haven’t been incarcerated here for...

www.fox9.com

 

[sapphire blue]

‘U.S. District Judge David O. Carter dismissed the Justice Department’s lawsuit demanding California’s voter rolls, calling it “unprecedented and illegal” and a threat to American democracy’

Trump administration’s demands for California’s voter rolls, including Social Security numbers, rejected by federal judge

A federal judge dismissed the U.S. Justice Department's lawsuit demanding California's voter rolls, calling the request 'unprecedented and illegal.'

www.latimes.com

And

Oregon not required to give feds voter data, judge rules

A federal judge tentatively ruled Wednesday that Oregon does not have to hand over personally identifiable data of more than 3 million Oregon voters to the federal government.

www.opb.org

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Enforcing the law is a basic responsibility of government. Law enforcement should be able to do its job without outside interference, and protesters shouldn’t be allowed to dictate whether or not the law is enforced. imo

Is there a point at which protesters should reconsider their approach?

Not as long as US citizens are being killed in the streets, no. Protestors changing their approach is completely backwards to me. Who should be reconsidering their approach is ICE and their leadership. Protestors have every right to be there and ICE's tactics should not intimidate them into surrendering their birthrights.

MOO.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Very well-written letter from U.S. Attorney General Bondi. It covers all the issues that the federal government is investigating in Minnesota, as well as Minnesota's leaders refusal to cooperate with federal immigration agents and the issue of illegal immigration and their state. Lays it all out very well.

You're not concerned about how illegal this is? Giving out the private data of millions of U.S citizens is a violation of state and federal law. I'm glad Minnesota is holding its ground.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Protestors do not have the right to trash peoples homes & yards & cause such a massive disturbance. Are they going to pay for the damage? No, of course not. That comes out of my hard earned money I actually work for. ICE has every right to be here. Like I said, people are not understanding how many ILLEGAL CRIMINALS are actually here! Especially the people who are not even a resident here! It's been an ongoing serious problem, people have been concerned about safety here for years, not to mention the fraudsters who started taking advantage of the pandemic funds.

ICE doesn't have the right to murder innocent civilians. <modsnip>

 

[sapphire blue]

I don't see any coercion in the letter, just our AG addressing issues related to fraud in Minnesota along with illegal immigrants and their removal according to U.S. law.

You don’t see the ‘give the feds what they want and we will go away’ tactic?
The AG is conflating issues IMO to ramp up the anti immigrant rhetoric, legal and illegal.
Removal according to us law, except that’s not what’s happening at all, people are being taken without due process.

It’s very reminiscent of the 1930s, people didn’t want to see what was happening right in front of them, that is until they were also targeted. If we fail to learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.

The long term damage and destruction to democracy and to US citizens is going to leave loads of psychological issues all round.

 

[sapphire blue]

Protestors do not have the right to trash peoples homes & yards & cause such a massive disturbance. Are they going to pay for the damage? No, of course not. That comes out of my hard earned money I actually work for. ICE has every right to be here. Like I said, people are not understanding how many ILLEGAL CRIMINALS are actually here! Especially the people who are not even a resident here! It's been an ongoing serious problem, people have been concerned about safety here for years, not to mention the fraudsters who started taking advantage of the pandemic funds.

How many illegal immigrants are in Minnesota? What percentage of the population are they?

Isn’t Minnesota ranked in the top 10 safest states of the USA? Concerns about safety can often be perceived safety risks, rather than demonstrated ones, and quite often they re shaped by public anxiety around immigration, fear of others.

https://www.sctimes.com/story/news/2025/10/22/is-violent-crime-up-or-down-in-minnesota-see-what-the-numbers-show/86834486007/

 

[Charlot123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015479691147149747

The words of the 44th POTUS

 

[JennieM]

10:52 PM

Alex Pretti honored at Basilica of St. Mary service​

Clergy members at the Basilica of St. Mary honored and prayed for Alex Pretti and his family on Sunday.

For 10 years, Father Harry Tasto says he worked alongside Pretti as a chaplain at the Minneapolis VA hospital.

"He was known for his kindness and gentleness to patients," Tasto said. "So don't please pay any attention to the vilification from our national leaders."

Clergy invited those at Sunday's service to take home a candle in honor of Pretti.

Katie Bartlet doesn't go to church at the Basilica; she's not even Catholic, but she felt the pull to come.

"It spoke to me to come and bring a candle for Alex," she said.

By Jason Rantala

Bovino, some Border Patrol agents to leave Minneapolis soon, sources tell CBS News

U.S. Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to soon leave the Minneapolis area, two sources familiar with the move told CBS News Monday.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[CrimeDawg123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015562744993350135

 

[zleuther]

https://archive.is/20260126071630/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/01/26/misfire-of-victims-gun-fatal-ice-shooting/

The Telegraph examines a possibility that "as the agent runs away with Mr Pretti’s 9mm pistol in his right hand, a gun shot can be heard in the footage posted online...that in turn may have “spooked” the others"

 

[zleuther]

...The Telegraph's frame from witness vid

 

[CrimeDawg123]

We now have statements condemning the shooting from both former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Surely we will hear from George W. Bush soon.

 

[Marantz4250b]

NRA and other US gun activists push back at Trump officials over Minneapolis shooting

The gun-lobby group, typically aligned with Trump, criticises a suggestion that those who carry guns risk being lawfully shot.

www.bbc.co.uk

Even the NRA and GoA are calling out what the US government are doing.

Lose gun owners and there'll be a new President before the midterms - guaranteed!

 

[JennieM]

12m ago

Minnesota police chiefs seek meeting with Trump​

The Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association (MCPA) is requesting a meeting with President Trump, which the group says would be "constructive and timely" in light of the "complex, high-pressure environments" local law enforcement officers are working in "while communities seek reassurance, clarity, and stability."

"During periods of elevated tension, thoughtful leadership and responsible communication are essential to reducing strain rather than amplifying it," the group says. "... Public trust depends on consistent, professional conduct. At the same time, officer safety must remain a fundamental priority, as it is inseparable from the safety of the communities officers serve."

"A constructive path forward is essential. The MCPA encourages greater dialogue among federal and state leaders to support professional conduct that strengthens public safety, protects law enforcement professionals, and maintains public trust across Minnesota."

By Brian Dakss

Bovino, some Border Patrol agents to leave Minneapolis soon, sources tell CBS News

U.S. Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to soon leave the Minneapolis area, two sources familiar with the move told CBS News Monday.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[detective.moon]

NRA and other US gun activists push back at Trump officials over Minneapolis shooting

The gun-lobby group, typically aligned with Trump, criticises a suggestion that those who carry guns risk being lawfully shot.

www.bbc.co.uk

Even the NRA and GoA are calling out what the US government are doing.

Lose gun owners and there'll be a new President before the midterms - guaranteed!

he was an emergency care nurse, just trying to help someone. he was not an immigrant, he was a white american - which obviously shouldn’t matter but to some people sadly it will. it’s on video and the behavior of ICE is chilling, the “boo hoo” after taking a life. i don’t see how anyone can defend this unless they are so invested in believing lies just because that’s what they want to believe. unfortunately it seems like there are still plenty of people like that, but i hope with all my heart most people will see this was wrong, so wrong.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Dbm

 

[Hexe]

He had a high caliber weapon, a super duper gun - it was simultaneously the gun being taken and ice shooting, how was ice supposed to know he wasn't reaching for another weapon or the exact one that was being removed from him, they were protecting the ice agents as they should of been

They had Alex incapacitated and on the ground, the next step would be searching him for weapons (that's if he was in any way aggressive before they tackled him which he was not). If the agents in your scenario were unable to properly search Alex and then properly communicate among themselves that he got disarmed, then they were incompetent on the most basic level. Literally more incompetent that any policeman fresh out of training.