MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Summerliz03]

Humans are strange.

I have a funny feeling that changing "anti ICE protester" to "Pro Life protester" and..... a certain number of people would be dialing the prudence component of legal weapons carrying waaaay up.

Some of those same humans who now cry "murder" could well be crying "FAFO" regarding a pro lifer's decision to carry a weapon to a protest.

Of course, others would strongly deny any personal bias and claim that human behavior is restricted solely to the humans on the other side.....

I really don’t see your point in this, however; if a pro-life protester was shot 10 times in the back at a pro-life rally, I would also consider that murder. And I would feel terrible for that person and their family and I would want to see whoever was responsible for that put on trial for their crime.

Edit to add: I would feel the same even if the pro-life protester who was shot had a gun on them as well.

 

[JennieM]

Alex Pretti's sister speaks out on her loss: "My brother is, and always will be, my hero"​

Micayla Pretti's full statement is below.

"Alex was kind, generous, and had a way of lighting up every room he walked into. He was incredibly intelligent and deeply passionate, and he made people feel safe. But most importantly, he was my brother. I had the privilege of being his little sister for 32 years. I will never be able to hug him, laugh with him, or cry to him again because of those thugs—and that is a pain no words can fully capture.

"Alex always wanted to make a difference in this world, and it's devastating that he won't be here to witness the impact he was making. Through his work at the VA caring for the sickest patients, and passion to advance cancer research, he touched more lives than he probably ever realized. All Alex ever wanted was to help someone—anyone. Even in his very last moments on this earth, he was simply trying to do just that.

"I want to thank everyone who has reached out to my family and me, whether you knew Alex personally or not. The messages, posts, and overwhelming positivity shared about him truly reflect his character, work ethic, and passions. My brother is, and always will be, my hero.

"When does this end? How many more innocent lives must be lost before we say enough? Hearing disgusting lies spread about my brother is absolutely gut-wrenching, and my family is deeply grateful so many people have stood up and helped tell his truth. He would be very proud."

Alex Pretti's sister speaks out on her loss: "My brother is, and always will be, my hero"

In a new statement, Alex Pretti's sister says the man federal agents killed in Minneapolis "always wanted to make a difference in this world."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Cryptic]

I really don’t see your point in this...

My point is that human bias and creative spins regarding the 2A and personal responsibility are not restricted to any particular socio political orientation.

 

[branmuffin]

I reject the idea that enforcing border laws is comparable to the systematic genocide of over 6,000,000 Jews.

That's your prerogative to do so. However, many times the words out of Donald Trump's mouth when referring to illegals mirrors the verbiage used by the Nazis. 'Poisoning the blood of our country', 'vermin', 'infest' and 'animals' when referring to the illegals in the US. You cannot reason that away.

When a country is continually bombarded by negative descriptors in regards to a specific subset of the population, one of two things happen: segments of the population believe and isolate the targeted as the 'other' and adjust their belief system. The second thing is another segment of the population are finally relieved that someone in a position of power is verifying and encouraging their own biases and hatred. That's why American citizens are being scooped up off the streets because of the way they look, the language they speak. Not because they are illegals but because of their looks. They spend an indeterminate amount of time being detained then dumped on the street.

I remember back in 1968 during the Democratic Convention, the protesters chanted 'the whole world is watching'. They are watching again. And what they see is horrifying. Thank god for the media and individuals who are brave enough to post what is really happening in the US right now. I think I am going to be on the right side of history. IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

The president has made new remarks today about the shooting and he is apparently now against the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. That’s a very interesting stance given his base.

Edit: not sure why that YouTube video isn’t pulling, but here’s an article about what he said today.

'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors

President Donald Trump on Tuesday agreed with the criticism that no one should carry a gun to a protest. The president spoke to the press before heading to Des Moines, Iowa to discuss his economic agenda after his first year in office. A key topic was the recent shooting of Minneapolis ICU nurse...

www.alternet.org

Americans are no longer allowed to walk around with a gun, according to Trump.

Oof. Thankfully, the President doesn’t have the authority to declare new laws by statement…

Contrary to what seems to be the belief of some, there is NO constitutional rule that states exercising your first amendment right cancels out your second amendment right. Protesting is lawful activity. Lawful gun possession by a law-abiding citizen doesn’t become unlawful because of their proximity to or attendance of a protest.

SCOTUS explicitly warned that states cannot label ordinary public places as “sensitive” just because people gather there (addressed in NYSPRA v. Bruen - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf). Public areas where it is legal to carry a firearm do not become gun-free zones simply because a protest is happening. Trump may not like that lawful protestors are lawfully carrying weapons, but that does not magically make it unlawful. MOO.

 

[JennieM]

So many posts attempting to smear the victim!

 

[detective.moon]

Humans are strange.

I have a funny feeling that changing "anti ICE protester" to "Pro Life protester" and..... a certain number of people would be dialing the prudence component of legal weapons carrying waaaay up.

Some of those same humans who now cry "murder" could well be crying "FAFO" regarding a pro lifer's decision to carry a weapon to a protest. Others would be "shocked and appalled" at the lack of personal responsibility.

Of course, others would strongly deny any personal bias and claim that human behavior is restricted solely to the humans on the other side.....

of course, everyone has a bias. we all have opinions, experiences, prejudice. i would look at the victim who is a pro life protester differently, that’s true, but i think and hope i would still take a step back and see that such treatment of any human being is wrong, and also very worrying when it seems to be part of a bigger pattern of violence.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Blaming Alex Pretti for his own death for lawfully carrying a concealed gun which he never made a motion to unholster, is a bit like blaming MLK Jr for walking out on that balcony. Or JFK driving through Dealey Plaza.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Blaming Alex Pretti for his own death for lawfully carrying a concealed gun which he never made a motion to unholster, is a bit like blaming MLK Jr for walking out on that balcony. Or JFK driving through Dealey Plaza.

I mean, sure, if they didn't do that ...

 

[tlcya]

The president has made new remarks today about the shooting and he is apparently now against the 2nd amendment to the Constitution. That’s a very interesting stance given his base.

Edit: not sure why that YouTube video isn’t pulling, but here’s an article about what he said today.

'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors

President Donald Trump on Tuesday agreed with the criticism that no one should carry a gun to a protest. The president spoke to the press before heading to Des Moines, Iowa to discuss his economic agenda after his first year in office. A key topic was the recent shooting of Minneapolis ICU nurse...

www.alternet.org

Americans are no longer allowed to walk around with a gun, according to Trump.

not laughing at you but at the dichotomy

Guns, ammo … even a boat: how Oath Keepers plotted an armed coup

President Trump took decisive action to pardon January 6 defendants who were unfairly targeted, overcharged, and used as political examples.
January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

So, to recap: armed men storm Whitehouse to disrupt peaceful transfer of power. No problem pardon those patriotic felllows. Alex Pretti, documenting ICE agents with a registered, permited holstered weapon, is met with

"Well, that being said," Trump returned to the reporter, "you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns. You just can't. Listen, you can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. It's just a very unfortunate incident." 'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors

we live in bizarro world at this point.

ETA LMAO I just hovered over my own post and saw that the white house link I posted in it is considered low credibility. You've got that right

 

[Rolypolyoly]

Agreed, he did nothing of the sort.

He in no way "inserted" himself into the incident. He went to the aid of someone who had just been violently assaulted.

Officials of the state are not employed or empowered to assault perfectly innocent citizens going about their lawful business. It was not an "incident" in the sense of it being one they were lawfully allowed to create. And, even if it were, he wasn't interfering with what they were doing. He was helping someone who had just been assaulted and was possibly injured.

In fairness, they aren't allowed to assault the guilty ones either!

Doesn't matter how they try and spin it, who they try to blame, the accountability is with the agents that are violently assaulting and executing citizens going about their business, which includes protesting, as is their right.
There is no excuse, there are no extenuating circumstances, and it doesnt appear that the agents in question are even lawfully going about their own business, so to say citizens are inserting themselves and impeding LE from doing their job as justification for murdering them is ridiculous!

MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Blaming Alex Pretti for his own death for lawfully carrying a concealed gun which he never made a motion to unholster, is a bit like blaming MLK Jr for walking out on that balcony. Or JFK driving through Dealey Plaza.

Thank you! This back and forth discussion of whether he had his CWL on him and whether he was lawfully carrying is totally moot to me. It’s not like ICE agents knew he (supposedly) didn’t have his concealed permit on him when they shot him 10 times in the back. And even if he wasn’t carrying it, that does not in any way justify his murder.

MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

not laughing at you but at the dichotomy

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President Trump took decisive action to pardon January 6 defendants who were unfairly targeted, overcharged, and used as political examples.
January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

So, to recap: armed men storm Whitehouse to disrupt peaceful transfer of power. No problem pardon those patriotic felllows. Alex Pretti, documenting ICE agents with a registered, permited holstered weapon, "Well, that being said," Trump returned to the reporter, "you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns. You just can't. Listen, you can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. It's just a very unfortunate incident."

we live in bizarro world at this point.

In my opinion, there’s subtext that is clear to me in POTUS’ statement.

‘You can’t walk in with guns… if you are a member of the opposition party/if you oppose actions of the Trump administration.’

MOO

 

[MrsWatson]

SBM - I think you are correct.

https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/5705052-border-patrol-target-information-discrepancy/

“Bovino claimed Jose Huerta-Chuma, who Border Patrol agents were targeting Saturday morning, had a criminal history that included domestic assault to intentionally inflict bodily harm, disorderly conduct, and driving without a valid license.

The state’s DOC says Huerta-Chuma had never been in custody, based on the department’s data records and court data. The records also showed Huerta-Chuma had committed no felonies in the state, nor was he currently under supervision from the state.

“DOC records further indicate that an individual by this name was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, during President Trump’s first administration,” the department said in a statement. “Any decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time would have been made by federal authorities. DOC has no information explaining why this individual was released.””

Is Jose Huerta-Chuma a real person? I'm starting to wonder.

 

[JennieM]

3h ago

'We are not a nation that guns down our citizens in the street': Biden says Minneapolis violence 'betrays our most basic values'​

Former president Joe Biden has condemned the “senseless” killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti as betraying “our most basic values as Americans”, and praised the people of Minnesota for “speaking out against injustice when they see it”.

“What has unfolded in Minneapolis this past month betrays our most basic values as Americans,” Biden said in a post on X. “We are not a nation that guns down our citizens in the street. We are not a nation that allows our citizens to be brutalized for exercising their constitutional rights. We are not a nation that tramples the 4th Amendment and tolerates our neighbors being terrorized.”

Biden said Minnesotans protesting the federal government’s immigration crackdown have “reminded us what it is to be American, and they have suffered enough at the hands of this Administration”.

“The people of Minnesota have stood strong — helping community members in unimaginable circumstances, speaking out against injustice when they see it, and holding our government accountable to the people,” he wrote.

Biden did not mention Donald Trump by name, but alluded to the president, before calling for a “full, fair, and transparent investigation” into the killings.

Violence and terror have no place in the United States of America, especially when it’s our own government targeting American citizens.

No single person can destroy what America stands for and believes in, not even a President, if we — all of America — stand up and speak out. We know who we are. It’s time to show the world. More importantly, it’s time to show ourselves.

Now, justice requires full, fair, and transparent investigations into the deaths of the two Americans who lost their lives in the city they called home.

Donald Trump backs Kristi Noem as calls mount to fire homeland security chief – live

US president says Noem is ‘doing a very good job’ amid growing criticism of administration’s immigration crackdown after two US citizens were killed

www.theguardian.com

 

[nao]

not laughing at you but at the dichotomy

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President Trump took decisive action to pardon January 6 defendants who were unfairly targeted, overcharged, and used as political examples.
January 6: A Date Which Will Live in Infamy

So, to recap: armed men storm Whitehouse to disrupt peaceful transfer of power. No problem pardon those patriotic felllows. Alex Pretti, documenting ICE agents with a registered, permited holstered weapon, "Well, that being said," Trump returned to the reporter, "you can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns. You just can't. Listen, you can't walk in with guns. You can't do that. It's just a very unfortunate incident." 'You can’t have guns': Trump stuns with anti-2nd Amendment demand for protestors

we live in bizarro world at this point.

ETA LMAO I just hovered over my own post and saw that the white house link I posted in it is considered low credibility. You've got that right

Moo....do you see how those agitators were rewarded..paid. There are protesters that film and blow whistles. Then there are agitators that push past what should be peaceful...moo

 

[Inthedetails]

Is it official? Have we jumped the shark?

jmo

 

[JennieM]

Judge in Minnesota orders ICE chief to appear in court, warns of possible contempt proceedings​

By Melissa Quinn

Washington — The chief judge of the U.S. District Court in Minnesota ordered the acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to appear in his courtroom in-person on Friday and explain why he should not be held in contempt of court for violating an earlier order.

Judge Patrick Schiltz wrote in a brief three-page order that the Trump administration has failed to comply with "dozens" of court orders in recent weeks, which has resulted in "significant hardship" to immigrants who have been arrested and detained as part of Operation Metro Surge.

Schiltz wrote that he has been "extremely patient" with administration officials, even though they sent thousands of agents to Minnesota to detain immigrants who came to the U.S. illegally "without making any provision for dealing with the hundreds of habeas petitions and other lawsuits that were sure to result."

"The court's patience is at an end," he wrote.

[…]

Judge in Minnesota orders ICE chief to appear in court, warns of possible contempt proceedings

The judge ordered the acting head of ICE to appear in his courtroom on Friday and explain why he should not be held in contempt of court.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Inthedetails]

BBM

Gov. Tim Walz’s office said Tom Homan, the White House border czar dispatched by President Trump to take over the immigration crackdown in Minnesota, had agreed on Tuesday to work toward ending what it said was a “campaign of retribution” against the state.

In a statement, Mr. Walz’s office said the governor and Mr. Homan met on Tuesday morning and “agreed on the need for an ongoing dialogue.” The statement added that Mr. Walz and Mr. Homan agreed to continue working toward the state’s goals: impartial investigations into the killings of two U.S. citizens by federal agents and a swift reduction in federal forces in the state.
More at the link:

Minneapolis Live Updates: Walz Meets With Trump’s New Leader of ICE Operations in Minnesota

The president said he wanted an “honorable” inquiry into the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis man by federal agents, but again blamed the man for carrying a legally permitted weapon.

www.nytimes.com

 

[JennieM]

28m ago
In a joint statement, House Democratic leaders are threatening to launch impeachment proceedings if Noem isn’t fired “immediately”.

[…]

So far no Republicans have signed onto the impeachment resolution, which accuses Noem of obstructing Congress, violating the public trust and self-dealing.

Donald Trump backs Kristi Noem as calls mount to fire homeland security chief – live

US president says Noem is ‘doing a very good job’ amid growing criticism of administration’s immigration crackdown after two US citizens were killed

www.theguardian.com