MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[LAborn]

My state also has a "Real ID" that can get you on a plane and (as listed) even get you entrance into a nuclear facility. That is not acceptable if ICE stopped my car in my state. I would need a passport or a birth certificate, maybe both.

Concerning those Native Americans taken, the Chief was interviewed and told by DHS/(ICE) in a document, if he wanted more than just the first names of the tribal members being held, his tribe would have to agree and sign off on ICE/DHS having complete access to reservation land, to come and go as they see fit. I see that as blackmail using human lives to force them to give up their tribal rights to their land as they're holding First Nation Citizens in captivity.
MO...disgraceful and illegal.
AJMO

When you get your driver's license don't you have to present either a passport or birth certificate? It's necessary in our state, weird they (ICE) wouldn't see a driver's license as proper ID.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Perhaps this video included in this article may be helpful. It appears to align with the timeline or sequence of events that SC shared during her interview posted above. IMO, it is also consistent with the things she had recalled so far in public regarding what occurred immediately after Pretti’s tragic shooting.

JMO/MOO

Examining witness videos of Alex Pretti killing in Minneapolis

Warning: The images you are about to see are disturbing. CBS News homeland security correspondent Nicole Sganga breaks down the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by federal officials as seen from various angles of witness footage. Then, Anna Schecter joins with analysis.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[tlcya]

another source for video of agent clapping after Alex Pretti was killed.

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, a supposed law enforcement officer violently shoves a non-violent woman down to the ground. A caring non-violent man moves to help the woman up off the ground. All this done on slippery, snowy ground right next to a vehicle. The man is grabbed, pulled and sprayed with pepper spray in his face from less that a foot away. While he continues to hold onto the woman trying to get to her feet, who ultimately has to scoot on her bottom away from the agent and pepper spray, the helpful man is torn away from her and jumped on by numerous agents. Thrown down to the ground, the man is now bludgeoned in his face with a large pepper spray metal canister. The man is on his knees, bent over forward, his arms being held on both sides. Almost at the same time the non-violent man is disarmed from behind of his legal carry gun. A BP agent scurries away with that gun as the prone non-violent man is shot in the back, by two agents, 10 times. That's what I see in reviewing the videos, MO

That whole scenario is not a professional LE action. It looked more like an attack, a mugging by a gang of criminals to me. AJMO

Minnesota Good Samaritan Law might have mandated Alex Pretti to render help, since he was a licensed nurse

Sec. 604A.01 MN Statutes

www.revisor.mn.gov

This law states that “any person, including medical professionals, at the scene of an emergency who knows another is exposed to or has suffered grave physical harm must provide "reasonable assistance". This assistance includes emergency care,, or obtaining help, and it applies if you are in the vicinity.”

Key Details of Minnesota Law:
Definition of Assistance: Reasonable assistance can include providing emergency care, calling for medical personnel, or offering advice.
Liability Protection: Individuals who provide emergency care in good faith without compensation are protected from civil liability, unless their actions are reckless or wanton.
"In the Vicinity": The law implies a duty for those present at the scene of an emergency to act.
This law encourages bystanders and professionals to act without fear of lawsuit, provided they are not acting recklessly.

So legally, there may be more requirement from a Minnesotan physician or a nurse to actively help.

Remember that in both cases, those of Good and of Pretti, the physicians in the vicinity of the shootings actively tried to help, at the risk of being attacked by ICE agents? The rules for medical personnel in MN are more stringent than in many other states.

Maybe the lawyers can comment - but Alex as a nurse might have had a duty to help, especially if the person was in distress from the assault.

In fact, the ICE agents might have interjected themselves between a nurse and a person showing signs of distress from being violently shoved down.

 

[tlcya]

The two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns during Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting in Minnesota have been placed on administrative leave, according to Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

We have a link to the CNN interview with the witness SC, and later someone posted a link to the witness interview but it was linked to a non-approved, random social media account. Many subsequent responses were quoting and requoting based on the non approved account.

In an attempt to leave as many posts as possible, and because both sources were based on the same interview, we have removed the post with the non-approved, random source but left responses based on the same witness interview that was linked to CNN.

 

[Summerliz03]

IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, lets random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO

You say we wouldn’t be happy with taser and no masks, but I actually would love it if the ICE agents weren’t wearing masks, as that has been their policy since their inception. ICE been operating without masks since 2003, but all the sudden now are wearing them. And they also used to wear actual uniforms that clearly marked themselves as ICE agents, complete with badge numbers and ID. 2025 was the first time they started wearing masks and their “uniform” changed. DHS has one of the biggest budgets of any department in the entire government, I’m pretty sure they can afford to get actual uniforms so you don’t have fully covered men in jeans and flannels running around as Law Enforcement. IMO.

 

[keek]

The two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns during Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting in Minnesota have been placed on administrative leave, according to Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave

Their administrative leave is not or will be the administrative leave of ANY other prior presidential administration, it's very telling of course because it goes without saying that THIS all happened BECAUSE of this current administration. Come on. IMO

 

[LAborn]

IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, let's random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO

I have no idea what you're trying to say. But ICE agents are not trained, clearly. Why would I make the suggestion if I didn't think it would be a preferred method? Alex Pretti and Renee Nicole Good would be alive right now with that simple change. Why would anyone want more lethal force? That's just stupid.

 

[tlcya]

MOO the agents on administrative leave are on paid leave, as would any law enforcement officer being investigated for a use of force claim. I am just happy they are not on the streets with the ability to kill more humans while their conduct is being investigated.

It ain't much but it is something.

 

[sunshineray]

Good. Appropriate decision. IMO

How can it be appropriate? Their names are still unknown to MN LE and the state's citizens. If the players were changed to MN local police being the shooters, would not MN and the nation know who the actors were? Would local or state LE not be named? There's a standard of LE investigation that's not being met by the DHS/ICE investigating themselves, behind closed doors. MN's governnent, state and local, are concerned that evidence was taken and removed with no care or accountability being shown. DHS/ICE have assured by those actions, IMO, that if warranted no prosecution could be undertaken. Is that the correct way of investigating, of professional LE, of seeking answers and justice? Again all rhetorical question as I think the answers are quite clear. No
AJMO

 

[keek]

The two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns during Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting in Minnesota have been placed on administrative leave, according to Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin.
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave

They have throw out crumbs of appeasement right? IMO These killers, and of Renee Good, were OK and obviously knew that they themselves were OK with whatever they did. No getting around that. IMO

 

[tlcya]

Senator Rand Paul, R-Ky., called for an independent investigation into Pretti's death, saying the Department of Homeland Security should appoint a commission.

"We can’t just say oh, nothing to see here, and he was obviously an assassin and a domestic terrorist. When we say things like that, it leads to no confidence," he said, referring to DHS's initial statements about Pretti.

"I don’t think it’s honest to say he brandished a weapon. I don’t think it’s honest to say he assaulted officers," he told reporters. "I’m not saying he might not have been obnoxious. I’m not saying he might have said obnoxious things, but he films; he doesn’t even obstruct the traffic. He waves a car through in the middle of this as they approach him. He retreats as they approach him again, he retreats when a woman is shoved to the ground, he goes to help her up, and that’s when he is grabbed from behind."
Minneapolis live updates: Two Border Patrol agents who fired their guns in Alex Pretti’s fatal shooting have been put on leave

thank you Senator Paul.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Trump no longer supports the Second Amendment. moo

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016254013587734611

 

[Inthedetails]

IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, let's random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO

Are they trained to render aid? Because we've seen two violent scenes where they didn't bother. Do they know how to render first aid or comfort to an injured person?

We've witnessed these "trained" agents walk away from injuries they caused, so the assumption is that is protocol.

jmo

 

[keek]

Are they trained to render aid? Because we've seen two violent scenes where they didn't bother. Do they know how to render first aid or comfort to an injured person?

We've witnessed these "trained" agents walk away from injuries they caused so the assumption is that is protocol.

jmo

When you are shooting to kill, what aid? IMO

 

[Charlot123]

My state also has a "Real ID" that can get you on a plane and (as listed) even get you entrance into a nuclear facility. That is not acceptable if ICE stopped my car in my state. I would need a passport or a birth certificate, maybe both.

Concerning those Native Americans taken, the Chief was interviewed and told by DHS/(ICE) in a document, if he wanted more than just the first names of the tribal members being held, his tribe would have to agree and sign off on ICE/DHS having complete access to reservation land, to come and go as they see fit. I see that as blackmail using human lives to force them to give up their tribal rights to their land as they're holding First Nation Citizens in captivity.
MO...disgraceful and illegal.
AJMO

Enhanced driver’s license is not real ID

“An Enhanced Driver's License (EDL) is a U.S. state-issued ID (from MI, MN, NY, VT, WA) that confirms U.S. citizenship and identity, allowing easy land/sea travel to Canada without a passport, featuring a U.S. flag and RFID chip for quick border checks, but it cannot be used for international air travel. It serves as a convenient, lower-cost passport alternative for driving or boating across the border, but travelers still need a passport book for flights, though a DUI can make you inadmissible“

(It was more about what to carry with you that is small and not easily lost).

About the Natives, AFAIK, tribal cards that are small and easy to carry, used to be enough for them. To make them obtain a passport is an extra job and money IMHO.

But are ICE agents trained at recognizing tribal documents?

 

[LibraStarr]

When you get your driver's license don't you have to present either a passport or birth certificate? It's necessary in our state, weird they (ICE) wouldn't see a driver's license as proper ID.

Citizens have to present a birth certificate when getting a license but immigrants with work visas and green card holders (and others) can also obtain driver's licenses. So ICE seems to be saying that a license doesn't prove citizenship, only legal status.

In my opinion, if they were only going after violent undocumented criminals, a valid license would be just fine... but we know it's not about that.

 

[Bibbers]

IMHO the shooting of AP was very wrong and another tragedy. I view it differently than RG. I think the whole situation in MN is completely out of control obviously. I don’t like how the administration handled it afterwards and I don’t like how MN officials handled it. Initially ICE was there to do a job. MN failed to assist them with protesters etc. I don’t think ICE is trained in crowd control as LE are. Things have escalated with ICE and I am uncertain what mindset that puts them in. However Mr Pretti should never have been shot after his weapon was removed. Did a weapon discharge causing the panic and what happened, maybe, but it still should not have happened. AP had what appears to be another encounter with ICE that left him injured. Is that why he was armed that day? Maybe. Why did he have extra magazines for his gun (if he did)? I still assert he should not have been shot unless we are shown proof otherwise. This is not like the holocaust though and I find the comparison offensive. Let’s get ICE out of MN for now and hopefully reassess the whole situation.

Daughter of holocaust survivor here. I don't find the comparison offensive at all. They are the gestapo. My mother's stories of when the Gestapo came to their house, the sound of their boots, their violence makes this all very familiar to me.

 

[sunshineray]

When you get your driver's license don't you have to present either a passport or birth certificate? It's necessary in our state, weird they (ICE) wouldn't see a driver's license as proper ID.

For what my state calls a "Real ID" yes you do. You need a passport, birth certificate, SS#, learner's permit or driving school certificate and proof of insurance on the car being used for the test. Which is why it's very odd ICE won't accept it as proof of citizenship.

As far as when I got my license, only a learner's permit or driving school certificate and a birth certificate were needed.