MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Inthedetails]

 

[sunspun]

So far I’ve only heard DHS say he didn’t have an ID. Forgive me if I never believe another word they say. If there is a link to an entity other than one within the administration, I would love to see it.

Yes, especially when everyone saw them rifling thru his pockets immediately after shooting him, which was an excellent opportunity for them to grab his ID, permit, or anything else they wanted and who would know?

 

[Lindadanette]

The ratio of "hardened criminals" to law-abiding, green card holders or temporary worker permit holders is very troubling to me too. It seems to be some kind of field exercise to terrify and control people rather than a help to society. I am back to sluething because I think it's important to identify <modsnip: Name calling is not allowed> (there were two shooters) of Alex Pretti and because I think it's going to be important to gather the facts of what is happening around us. IMHO, it seems that they are using immigration as a battering ram to breech all of our lives. Websleuths has contributed so much to help solve crimes after they happen... How do we sleuth to help bring justice and mitigate future crimes?

 

[tlcya]

just rereading the paraphrased bits from the "report" prepared for congress by DHS on the Alex Pretti incident. It's got me all fired up yet again.

According to the report to Congress, CBP agents were conducting an operation in Minneapolis on Saturday morning when an officer was "confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles." The officer ordered the women to "move out of the roadway," the report said. That's when CBP agents first encountered Pretti.

"The [CBP officer] pushed them both away and one of the females ran to a male, later identified as 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a US citizen," the report said. "The [CBP officer] attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The woman and Pretti did not move. The [CBP officer] deployed his oleoresin capsicum (OC) spray towards both Pretti and the woman."

CBP agents then "attempted to take Pretti into custody," according to the report.
2 federal agents fired their weapons during Alex Pretti shooting, government report to Congress says

 

[nao]

Yes, especially when everyone saw them rifling thru his pockets immediately after shooting him, which was an excellent opportunity for them to grab his ID, permit, or anything else they wanted and who would know?

Moo...yes that was really strange to watch. They are just stuffing stuff in their pockets. Is that allowed? He is obviously dead it is not like he can hide anything.

 

[Greenestdays]

You don't have to approve of Alex' actions to disapprove of the agents' actions.


jmopinion

What especially disturbs me about the rhetoric that he somehow was to blame for getting shot - he was given no chance to comply with anything, he had no say in the outcome. There were no clear instructions from the agents; there was nothing threatening in his demeanour. “He should have just …” what?? The people thinking they could never end up in this situation are either blind or wilfully ignorant. The guy was trying to help a woman up and within seconds got maced and then shot. Nobody is safe when this is happening in the streets, not even a “I’m with MAGA” tattoo on your forehead will protect you if one of these agents decides they don’t like you.

 

[nao]

just rereading the paraphrased bits from the "report" prepared for congress by DHS on the Alex Pretti incident. It's got me all fired up yet again.

According to the report to Congress, CBP agents were conducting an operation in Minneapolis on Saturday morning when an officer was "confronted by two female civilians blowing whistles." The officer ordered the women to "move out of the roadway," the report said. That's when CBP agents first encountered Pretti.

"The [CBP officer] pushed them both away and one of the females ran to a male, later identified as 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a US citizen," the report said. "The [CBP officer] attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The woman and Pretti did not move. The [CBP officer] deployed his oleoresin capsicum (OC) spray towards both Pretti and the woman."

CBP agents then "attempted to take Pretti into custody," according to the report.
2 federal agents fired their weapons during Alex Pretti shooting, government report to Congress says

Moo... OMG..they were not on the road. Dude in parked auto filmed it right in front of his parked car

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Not having ID while carrying is not a major crime anyway. It doesn't mean they can take your gun away nor imprison you. It's just a $25 fine. This issue is a red herring imo.

Fact-checking FBI Director Patel's claim that guns are barred at protests

After federal immigration agents shot and killed Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, FBI Director Kash Patel said people cannot bring loaded firearms to protests. Laws vary by state, but the law in Minnesota, and many other states, makes guns at protests legal.

www.pbs.org

State law says not carrying a permit is a "petty misdemeanor" subject to a fine of up to $25. Such a violation "does not constitute a crime," state law says.

 

[Inthedetails]

Not having ID while carrying is not a major crime anyway. It doesn't mean they can take your gun away nor imprison you. It's just a $25 fine. This issue is a red herring imo.

Fact-checking FBI Director Patel's claim that guns are barred at protests

After federal immigration agents shot and killed Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, FBI Director Kash Patel said people cannot bring loaded firearms to protests. Laws vary by state, but the law in Minnesota, and many other states, makes guns at protests legal.

www.pbs.org

State law says not carrying a permit is a "petty misdemeanor" subject to a fine of up to $25. Such a violation "does not constitute a crime," state law says.

And how in the world would the agents know if he had his ID on him? They shoved, pepper-sprayed him inches from his face, tackled him, pinned him to the ground, shot him 10 times...and then apparently looked for his ID on his dead body.

jmopinion

 

[nao]

Moo..BBC had best vid I have seen. Second by second from multiple vids. But I am also seeing AI altered videos. Ai scares me.....moo

 

[southgoldengirl]

Trump no longer supports the Second Amendment. moo

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016254013587734611

Trump only supports the Second Amendment rights for one side of politics not unlike the laws of fraud, sexual assault, pedophilia, corruption, assault, seditious conspiracy, trespassing and the list goes on.

One rule for me and another for thee.
He is not interested in equality for all and neither are his supporters that is why we are here today. IMO

 

[nao]

Trump only supports the Second Amendment rights for one side of politics not unlike the laws of fraud, sexual assault, pedophilia, corruption, assault, seditious conspiracy, trespassing and the list goes on.

One rule for me and another for thee.
He is not interested in equality for all and neither are his supporters that is why we are here today. IMO

Yup he is an old man with a bucket list.....moo

 

[Inthedetails]

Websleuths has contributed so much to help solve crimes after they happen... How do we sleuth to help bring justice and mitigate future crimes?

snipped

1. Read the Bill of Rights

2. Read the Constitution, but be sure to read the Bill of Rights too, which are the first 10 amendments. The Bill of Rights was ratified when the Constitution was. Combined, they are what make USA the USA.

If anything in the Bill of Rights is not understood, do some background reading, especially why each one was written in the first place.

Those are my suggestions of what to do.

jmopinion

 

[JennieM]

Trump only supports the Second Amendment rights for one side of politics not unlike the laws of fraud, sexual assault, pedophilia, corruption, assault, seditious conspiracy, trespassing and the list goes on.

One rule for me and another for thee.
He is not interested in equality for all and neither are his supporters that is why we are here today. IMO

He is exactly why we are here today.

 

[Inthedetails]

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, emerged from a closed party meeting on Wednesday and laid out Democrats’ demands for new restrictions on federal immigration officers. In broad terms, they want roving immigration patrols to end. They also want to see agents observe conventional law enforcement standards on use of force and an end to federal officers’ wearing masks, with an additional requirement that they always carry proper identification.

Minnesota Live Updates: Federal Agents Involved in Deadly Minneapolis Shooting Now on Leave, DHS Says

The disclosure came as the administration’s handling of the shooting continued to draw criticism. U.S. Capitol Police were also investigating an attack on Representative Ilhan Omar.

www.nytimes.com

 

[JennieM]

Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller must go, Schumer says​

The most powerful Democrat in the US Senate is ratcheting up pressure to oust both the Homeland Security secretary, Kristi Noem, and one of Donald Trump's closest advisers, Stephen Miller, the lead White House official on the president's massive immigration crackdown.

In a series of lunchtime posts on-line, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer also pressed Trump to pull ICE agents out of Minnesota.

"It's outrageous that Kristi Noem still has a job in the administration after federal officers murdered two American citizens in just two weeks," Schumer said, referring to the fatal shootings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. "Noem is incompetent and she must go. And her boss Stephen Miller must be removed as well."

Schumer warned a spending package to prevent another federal shutdown would be at risk without changes to immigration enforcement operations.

"Let me be clear: Until ICE is properly reined in and overhauled, the DHS funding bill won’t have the votes to pass the Senate," he said.

On Minnesota, Schumer said that, while Trump has called for de-escalation,he has not followed up with meaningful action.

"If Trump was serious, he would remove all of ICE from Minnesota now," he said.

Live: Agents involved in shooting of Minnesota man Alex Pretti put on leave

Pretti, a US citizen, was shot and killed on Saturday in an incident which has sparked ongoing protests.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[tricia]

Hey Everyone,

A friend of mine shared his thoughts with me and gave me permission to post them here. His perspective is different from what most people in this thread believe

I’m posting this because I think it’s important to understand how people think who strongly disagree with each other. I’d like to hear your responses to his views and how you would address his arguments.

As always, please respond respectfully and thoughtfully. This is a good opportunity to show that people can disagree passionately and still have a productive, civil conversation.

From my friend
I think that any LE officer in this situation could have felt threatened by this guy's movements. He is clearly resisting the officers and reaching for something. Did someone shout "gun" at some point? If so it would heighten the fear among the officers. Did the officers who fired at him know that another officer had taken a weapon from him? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't from watching that confusing struggle. Does taking a single weapon during the struggle mean he doesn't have another weapon that could be used to kill? Of course not

So it's boils down to did the actions of the armed instigator cause these officers to fear for their lives or the safety of others. If it did then the shooting is legally justified

I wonder if you think it's possible the officers in this case really did fear for their safety during this encounter with the armed protester.

Tricia again. I would love to see your replies to my friend's message.

 

[PrairieWind]

snipped

1. Read the Bill of Rights

2. Read the Constitution, but be sure to read the Bill of Rights too, which are the first 10 amendments. The Bill of Rights was ratified when the Constitution was. Combined, they are what make USA the USA.

If anything in the Bill of Rights is not understood, do some background reading, especially why each one was written in the first place.

Those are my suggestions of what to do.

jmopinion

I am certainly happy to see the massive increase in support of the Second Amendment.

 

[Summerliz03]

I am certainly happy to see the massive increase in support of the Second Amendment.

From everyone but the President, apparently, given his remarks yesterday.

 

[Inthedetails]

Hey Everyone,

A friend of mine shared his thoughts with me and gave me permission to post them here. His perspective is different from what most people in this thread believe

I’m posting this because I think it’s important to understand how people think who strongly disagree with each other. I’d like to hear your responses to his views and how you would address his arguments.

As always, please respond respectfully and thoughtfully. This is a good opportunity to show that people can disagree passionately and still have a productive, civil conversation.

From my friend
I think that any LE officer in this situation could have felt threatened by this guy's movements. He is clearly resisting the officers and reaching for something. Did someone shout "gun" at some point? If so it would heighten the fear among the officers. Did the officers who fired at him know that another officer had taken a weapon from him? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't from watching that confusing struggle. Does taking a single weapon during the struggle mean he doesn't have another weapon that could be used to kill? Of course not

So it's boils down to did the actions of the armed instigator cause these officers to fear for their lives or the safety of others. If it did then the shooting is legally justified

I wonder if you think it's possible the officers in this case really did fear for their safety during this encounter with the armed protester.

Tricia again. I would love to see your replies to my friend's message.

How would that explain TEN shots?

jmo