MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[tricia]

No, no, a thousand times NO! Ban me if you want to (IDK) or put me on TO. I CANNOT agree with this!

I DON'T agree with my friend at all. This is his opinion. Wouldn't it be better to show factual evidence to help people change their minds.

Thank you.

I've said similar previously in this thread, and have been lambasted for it.

Hi statt#1
I think you may confuse lambasting with a lot of posters disagreeing with you. When you have an opinion that is not shared by the majority, you have to be prepared to defend it. If you feel a poster is rude and it is directed at you, please hit the report button. However, if you get a lot of posts, one after the other, challenging your opinion, that is to be expected in a case like this.
Tricia

 

[TalkToTofana]

I DON'T agree with my friend at all. This is his opinion. Wouldn't it be better to show factual evidence to help people change their minds.

Hi statt#1
I think you may confuse lambasting with a lot of posters disagreeing with you. When you have an opinion that is not shared by the majority, you have to be prepared to defend it. If you feel a poster is rude and it is directed at you, please hit the report button. However, if you get a lot of posts, one after the other, challenging your opinion, that is to be expected in a case like this.
Tricia

Factual evidence regarding which part?

 

[sunshineray]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016585421027754465

I've seen what she considered to be assault sadly we all have

Is she talking about 26 not 16 , arrests made yesterday by the Mapke Grove PD? Protesters were outside of a suites place where ICE are staying and property damage and escalating violence changed the situation, so police rightly stepped in?

Maple Grove hotel protests lead to arrest, charges for 26 people involved

The Maple Grove Police Department says 26 people have been arrested following a protest outside the SpringHill Suites where federal agents were believed to be staying.

www.fox9.com

 

[Yellowbelly]

I agree with you and I’m actually surprised they didn’t arrest him during this incident, since he purposely caused damage to the officers car. He could have definitely been legally arrested for that.

We know that he had a previous run in with ICE during which he got a broken rib. Could this be a video of that incident?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

IMO I can’t help but wonder about one concerning element in this latest shooting incident of AP.

IIRC the armed ‘agents’, whether ICE (Immigration & Customs Enforcement) or CBP (Customs & Border Patrol) are masked. They are suited up and wearing masks or other face-covering items. Their faces are not revealed.

Could this lead to actions that one might not take if they were fully exposed? Does the ability to ‘mask’ or secret behind a mask or cloth add a perceived element of impunity? Does it contribute to actions being taken due to a belief that one is not readily identifiable?

Perhaps those ‘agents’ should be identifiable. As they are acting on or behalf of the US government or another entity.

In terms of the allowed or legal aspects, IIUC there appear to be differences between whether an ICE or CBP agent can wear a mask while conducting official business. It seems that CBP cannot, whereas it might be a question regarding ICE.

A search of ‘is a us officer agent cbp able to wear a mask obscuring identity’ reveals some interesting results.

IANAL. MOO

 

[sds71]

At the first court appearance for 16 protesters accused of various disruptions by the federal government, Judge Dulce J. Foster said she was “deeply disturbed” that Attorney General Pam Bondi had published the names and images of the defendants on social media, calling them “rioters.” Foster noted that they should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Earlier in the hearing, a lawyer for some of the defendants had raised Bondi’s posts, calling them dangerous.

Minnesota Live Updates: 2 Agents on Leave After Minneapolis Shooting, Trump Official Says

Senate Democrats said the changes were needed to win their votes to avert a government shutdown. Trump officials said the two agents who killed Alex Pretti had been placed on administrative leave.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Sarahlou]

I DON'T agree with my friend at all. This is his opinion. Wouldn't it be better to show factual evidence to help people change their minds.

I know your reply wasn't to me, but I'm genuinely confused - isn't the video factual evidence enough?
I can't see how anyone can watch that and not see a completely unjustified killing. Unless it's not what the person wants to see.

 

[tricia]

I know your reply wasn't to me, but I'm genuinely confused - isn't the video factual evidence enough?
I can't see how anyone can watch that and not see a completely unjustified killing. Unless it's not what the person wants to see.

In my opinion, yes, the video evidence is factual enough. Again, I do not agree with my friend.
However, there are people who do not believe the video is enough. That's why we are here. To discuss the evidence in a rational and calm way. It's what we do on Websleuths.

 

[Hexe]

How would that explain TEN shots?

jmo

Ten shots fired into the back of a man pinned to the ground. If the agents feel so much threatened by a man lying face down, with his eyes filled with tears from the pepper spray, that it makes them fire into him round after round, they have no business being armed and on the streets.

MOO

 

[Hexe]

It’s reasonable to believe that the agents didn’t know that a firearm was in possession. I think Tricia’s friend makes a good point about the possibility of a second weapon, something I hadn’t thought about. I’m sure they’re trained for that.

They had him pinned down to the ground. All they needed to do and should have been trained to do, was to search him properly. Not to shot hin ten times in the back.

MOO

 

[witchway]

In my opinion, yes, the video evidence is factual enough. Again, I do not agree with my friend.
However, there are people who do not believe the video is enough. That's why we are here. To discuss the evidence in a rational and calm way. It's what we do on Websleuths.

This link has 2 court affidavits from witnesses from the scene at the time of the shooting. Your friend can review these if they would like.

Court filings: Witnesses say they didn't see Pretti with a gun, give more details of deadly ICE shooting

New filings in a federal lawsuit are revealing more information about the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by at least one ICE agent.

kstp.com

 

[JennieM]

Don’t ICE have any of these??

 

[brazgal]

Unfortunately I don't trust anything this government does. A secure locked room? I guess they'll release that entirely one day too! IMO

Maybe in 75 years from now?

 

[Friday Fan]

I've justed watched the video below on the main BBC Ten O'Clock News on BBC1.

Ironically, if Alex Pretti had been arrested for this, he'd still be alive.

TNM | EXCLUSIVE: Man who appears to be Alex Pretti filmed in altercation with federal agents

EXCLUSIVE: On January 13th, The News Movement filmed a man who appears to be Alex Pretti interacting with federal immigration agents. Our footage was analyzed by the BBC, whose facial recognition technology confirmed his identity to a 97% degree of accuracy. We were filming a documentary about...

www.thenewsmovement.com

If that's him and if he was armed then, why did they just let him go?

Did they let him go because he was armed or they didn't care or what?
"
That's the thing with this killing and with this agency...Why was he a "huge threat" on the 24th and not on this date?




I think there are many armed people out there....

 

[Hexe]

There is no right to physically obstruct a federal agent performing official duties. To me Mr. Pretti was obstructing.

Obstructing exactly what? And how?

Also, in civilised countries a person who obstructs the LE performing their duties, gests arrested, tried snd sentenced. Not executed on the spot.

MOO

 

[Lindadanette]

How can it be appropriate? Their names are still unknown to MN LE and the state's citizens. If the players were changed to MN local police being the shooters, would not MN and the nation know who the actors were? Would local or state LE not be named? There's a standard of LE investigation that's not being met by the DHS/ICE investigating themselves, behind closed doors. MN's governnent, state and local, are concerned that evidence was taken and removed with no care or accountability being shown. DHS/ICE have assured by those actions, IMO, that if warranted no prosecution could be undertaken. Is that the correct way of investigating, of professional LE, of seeking answers and justice? Again all rhetorical question as I think the answers are quite clear. No
AJMO

<modsnip: No source to info stated as fact>
I have considered that the administration may be offering pay to play an ICE agent deals to well-connected wealthy donors and their progeny. It reminds me of the illegal big game hunting reports I've seen. They are brought in, and now whisked away. Administrative leave or sanctuary?

 

[Jade]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016585421027754465

I've seen what she considered to be assault sadly we all have

“On the ground”? Like Roland Hedley?

16 “Minnesota rioters”? whooo scary mid west people with WHISTLES

Lol


Imo

 

[Friday Fan]

Is she talking about 26 not 16 , arrests made yesterday by the Mapke Grove PD? Protesters were outside of a suites place where ICE are staying and property damage and escalating violence changed the situation, so police rightly stepped in?

Maple Grove hotel protests lead to arrest, charges for 26 people involved

The Maple Grove Police Department says 26 people have been arrested following a protest outside the SpringHill Suites where federal agents were believed to be staying.

www.fox9.com

It's hard to say.

I somehow caught these protests on YouTube live streams two nights in a row. They seemed more "rag tag", more like"disturbing the peace". They were making noise and banging things. It was a "late night" crowd, if you know what I mean.....

It was in Maple Grove, not Minneapolis.

It would not be my idea of an effective protest. All an agent had to do, if they were staying in the hotel, was put on ear plugs to block them out. And the crowd size was not impressive enough to have an impact. Effective protests rely on larger crowds.


Their noise would have bothered guests who were not armed with ear plugs.
I would not be surprised if that is why they were arrested.

My hunch is the Maple Grove protesters will have minor charges filed against them.

 

[Yellowbelly]

They had him pinned down to the ground. All they needed to do and should have been trained to do, was to search him properly. Not to shot hin ten times in the back.

MOO

Wouldn't trained, capable LE have pinned his arms behind his back and cuffed him? There were enough of them in the pile on.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

This isn't getting talked about enough IMO

Five constitutional amendments Trump is ignoring in Minnesota

Let us count the ways your rights have been violated.

www.motherjones.com