MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[jepop]

When it is suggested that a Nurse, or anyone, not attend to a women shoved to the ground and instead needs to walk away to avoid immediate death from government agents this is no longer America.


all imo

It indicates a country, IMO, on the way to the equivalent of what is known as a Police State in authoritarian regimes such as the pretend democracy known as Russia. Jmo

 

[branmuffin]

not what I said, but if that is your opinion I will not debate you on it as your opinion is yours to have.

ETA to my response as yours was edited to add more afterwards. I agree that he appears to have chosen to confront and escalate things with agents in the encounter that occurred 11 days prior to the fatal encounter that is the topic of this thread. I agree that was not a wise decision on his part. On the day of his death he did arm himself as he had on the prior incident occasion. On the day in question, IMO he did not confront and provoke agents.

For all we know about Alex is that he armed himself every day, not just when he was protesting. So equating the two doesn't make sense to me. If someone has a concealed carry permit I presume they carry a concealed weapon. Most of the talking heads on tv that acknowledge they carry a concealed weapon seems to support that premise. Even Donald Trump, who in 2012 interview with the Washington Times, admitted he had a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

 

[zleuther]

Over 5 days since the shooting.

I'm 95% sure Hennepin County has the names of the two shooters.

I'm 70% sure there's a whistleblower.

I'm 50% sure DHS/DOJ/WH are so bad at Cover Ups that they still haven't figured out how much danger management is in of being criminally charged. Imagine even somewhat of a possibility that a shooter attorney could seek a plea bargain in exchange for exposing the details of the Cover Up.

All my opinions, based on what's missing.

(Tangentially, remember how quick JD Vance was to publicize the Ross phone vid. Reason #159 that that was a terrible idea, is cuz it magnifies the lack of the 3 missing bodycams that have evidence here)

 

[jepop]

And it is reinforcing the authoritarian structure the government is trying to create, and succeeding in some ways. Behave and all will be good

Yes, this x100%.

"..reinforcing the authoritarian structure the government is trying to create...behave and all will be good"

Moo...I mean what unreflective, absurd, inane and obtuse statements Tom Horman delivered! Not sure if he is just a little dim, or thinks US citizens, especially Minnesotians are stupid? If I was listening, talk about an insult to basic intelligence. Jmo

 

[iamshadow21]

Yes, this x100%.

"..reinforcing the authoritarian structure the government is trying to create...behave and all will be good"

Moo...I mean what unreflective, absurd, inane and obtuse statements Tom Horman delivered! Not sure if he is just a little dim, or thinks US citizens, especially Minnesotians are stupid? If I was listening, talk about an insult to basic intelligence. Jmo

It's also reinforcing the opposite.

If people behave, they'll be safe.

Therefore, people who are harmed must have done something bad enough to have deserved it.

MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

Over 5 days since the shooting.

I'm 95% sure Hennepin County has the names of the two shooters.

I'm 70% sure there's a whistleblower.

I'm 50% sure DHS/DOJ/WH are so bad at Cover Ups that they still haven't figured out how much danger management is in of being criminally charged. Imagine even somewhat of a possibility that a shooter attorney could seek a plea bargain in exchange for exposing the details of the Cover Up.

All my opinions, based on what's missing.

(Tangentially, remember how quick JD Vance was to publicize the Ross phone vid. Reason #159 that that was a terrible idea, is cuz it magnifies the lack of the 3 missing bodycams that have evidence here)

According to the CNN analysis, black-beanie-guy and tan-beanie-guy did the shooting.

You can see black-beanie-guy's gun go off in this short video. (screenshot here) It is the 5th video down in the linked article.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/29/us/immigration-agents-shooting-alex-pretti-invs

 

[jepop]

It's also reinforcing the opposite.

If people behave, they'll be safe.

Therefore, people who are harmed must have done something bad enough to have deserved it.

MOO

All my opinion; Yes, absolutely... be "good" and you're safe, if you get shot 10-12 times in the back by the authorities you were "bad" and asked for it. IMO That's the message between the lines. Some take it on board and who can blame them I suppose as the fear grows...that's how these things work..moo much like a threatening abusive relationship but on the macro scale. Jmo

 

[zleuther]

We should sleuth the videos to try to find the bodycams

 

[Friday Fan]

It indicates a country, IMO, on the way to the equivalent of what is known as a Police State in authoritarian regimes such as the pretend democracy known as Russia. Jmo

I'm thinking of that other place where they stormed our embassay 47 years ago and they just killed all those protesters under the guise as "terrorists".

 

[Strangeworld]

Thank you for stating the obvious which many Americans can't seem to grasp.

I'm trying to imagine what the situation will be like in several months when the World Cup comes to the US. It's a once in a generation opportunity to host the world's most popular sport. And some of the most rabid fans of football are from countries like Spain, Portugal, Argentina and Brazil, as well as Mexico, UK and Italy. There will be nearly 5 million people coming to these events. There's a lot of brown folk in that mix and they've got lots of money to spend. FIFA has received more than half a billion ticket requests for the games and I wouldn't be surprised if most of them are from those countries.

The World Cup generates millions and millions of dollars in revenues. How is this going to work? Will some of these people forego the events because they aren't enthralled over the possibility they get scooped up by ICE because of what they look like? Is the US going to be ordering any alien in the country to have their 'papers' on them at all times? I don't know about anyone else, but when I travel I don't walk around with my passport in my pocket. Not in the US, Italy, Panama, Germany France, Costa Rico, Mexico, etc.

If you are someone like Eva Longoria, the Hispanic actress who once said, when someone told her to go back to her own country, she said, "We didn't cross the border. The border crossed us." She's a 9th generation Texan. How many people in the US can trace their lineage back to generations that lived in the US long before the people who are telling them to get out, arrived? That is what is so f*****d up about this whole thing. Because we all know, regardless of the message that ICE sends, that they are looking for 'violent, criminal illegals,' that many of the people they have arrested are NOT illegals, that they DON'T have criminal backgrounds. The only thing they are guilty of, is not being the right colour. If you deny that, you are lying to yourself.

World Cup war games: How the U.S. is clamping down on security as FIFA comes to town

The U.S. is expecting at least 5 million international visitors, not to mention the millions of soccer fans at home, to be on the move during the six-week tournament

www.independent.co.uk

It's just so blatantly obvious isn't it - I certainly can't speak for everyone but myself and others in Australia will not be travelling to the US for a long time now, even if there is a change of government. Too many risks and it will take a long time to heal the damage. And I LOVEEEE the US! Have had some wonderful trips there. But in its current state, there's no way I'd visit, but that's not a reflection on the people, its a reflection on fear. Genuine fear and honestly disgust at Trump and his government. Plus they'd probably take one look at my WS posts and kick me out

 

[Strangeworld]

According to the CNN analysis, black-beanie-guy and tan-beanie-guy did the shooting.

You can see black-beanie-guy's gun go off in this short video. (screenshot here) It is the 5th video down in the linked article.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/29/us/immigration-agents-shooting-alex-pretti-invs

Oh SA (and hello! has been a while since I've been so active on a thread - hope you are good ) - when I read your post I was thinking beanie babies, now I can't get that image out of my head

CNN are all over those videos, I think their identities are going to come out soon

 

[sunspun]

I would like to know what transpired to cause an ICE agent to push her, why or how it came to be she was in that situation to begin with, and most importantly, if at that moment the agent was perceiving a threat.

I think it's pretty obvious. She was shouting at him, I would guess she wasn't shouting nice things. Probably something like (this is totally my imagination):

"Go home! Leave us alone! Get out of our neighborhood! You're not making things better, you're making things worse!"

Again, that was a completely made up by me quote there.

But no matter what she said or how loud she said it, you know she was within her rights and the law to say it. The agent should have been better trained how to handle that. Should've included NO violence.

 

[sunspun]

There was a lot going on, and in my opinion the totality of circumstances over time will be considered.

What does your reply have to do with the comment you replied to?

 

[iamshadow21]

Why we're all here.

A helper and a patriot: Alex Pretti’s family and friends on the life of nurse killed by federal agents

People who knew Pretti describe him as ‘generous with his time’ and denounce the Trump administration’s assessment of him

www.theguardian.com

 

[Strangeworld]

Why we're all here.

A helper and a patriot: Alex Pretti’s family and friends on the life of nurse killed by federal agents

People who knew Pretti describe him as ‘generous with his time’ and denounce the Trump administration’s assessment of him

www.theguardian.com

What a wonderful person he was. It really hits home that as it notes in the article, he wanted to make a difference but he won't be here to see the difference he has made.

He didn't let the fear mongering stop him from standing up for what he believed in, for the good of others. That's specialness that isn't quite so common nowadays

 

[Charlot123]

Here
This is where it comes from

“It is our city”…

Video Shows Bovino’s Orders to Immigration Agents in L.A. Raids

The Border Patrol commander gave agents wide latitude to arrest people as immigration raids began last summer. Similar tactics were later used in other cities.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Strangeworld]

Not sure if this has been posted already but it brought tears to my eyes - Greg Ketter, comic book store owner, 69 years old:

Minneapolis Booksellers Resisting ICE Go Viral, See Sales Spike

Greg Ketter (pictured) of DreamHaven and Victoria Ford of Comma received an outpouring of support on social media for their responses to ICE’s occupation, with both their bookstores seeing large increases in online orders from all over the U.S.

www.publishersweekly.com

Ketter became a social media phenomenon over the weekend, when MS Now aired a video of him pacing half a block away from where Alex J. Pretti had been murdered by agents an hour earlier, cursing the 50-100 armed ICE agents keeping the crowd back. That video, as well as a photo taken minutes later by freelance photo-journalist Theia Chatelle of Ketter walking through clouds of tear gas, immediately went viral.

Sales surge at Minneapolis bookstore after resonating photo of owner at protest

Greg Ketter has spent nearly five decades selling comic books and science fiction novels at DreamHaven Books and Comics in Minneapolis. This week, his phone hasn't stopped ringing.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Moonstrawbs]

My bet is that if I arm myself, spit at, then kick out the tail light of the next occupied police cruiser I see, the police inside may be a little more than annoyed. They might even view me as a threat. They might even think that I am seeking out a confrontation.

And yet those who piled on him and shot a ridiculous amount of times, aren't being questioned here? I'm out. Jmo

 

[sunshineray]

Minneapolis mayor decries DOJ investigation into Minnesota officials​

The Minneapolis mayor says the federal government has enormous power - one that far outweighs that of city authorities.

He says the federal government is demanding voter registration information in order to end what he calls a "siege" on Minneapolis.

He also decries what he sees as the justice department using investigations into him and others as a weapon.

Frey says it's not because they have done anything wrong, but because they are doing their job to speak on behalf of residents.

• For context: The US justice department has issued subpoenas to Democratic Minnesota officials, alleging they conspired to impede federal immigration officers in the state

'This is an opportunity to stand up for the liberties the US holds dear'​

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This is an opportunity to be a patriot and stand up for the liberties that the US holds dear, Frey says.

"As a nation of immigrants, it should not matter where you are from."

The Trump administration is attempting to "force nationwide outcomes on localised issues, leaving our own citizens as collateral damage", Frey says.

'We cannot back down'​

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This a moment "where we all have to stand together", Frey says in the concluding lines of his speech.

"This is more important than being a Democrat or a Republican," he says.

"We cannot back down," he tells the mayors gathered, adding it is them that will "hold this democracy together".

As he departs the stage, he's given a standing ovation.

Live: Tom Homan says Minnesota operation will be 'safer, by the book'

Tom Homan has been deployed after two people were shot dead by federal agents in the city in less than a month.

www.bbc.co.uk

Concerning the article in the link you provided.

I think Tom Homan needs to explain in detail, while videos are played showing what ICE has been doing, EXACTLY what his definition of "unprofessional behavior" is. JMO

 

[Emerald1328]

My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.

You’re right. He likely would be alive had he not tried to help a woman who was on the ground after she had been shoved. How low have we gone as a country that that is a sentence that can be said with total seriousness?