MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Herat]

Law Enforcement would consider 10 shots to his body to be overkill, and a sign of rage or personal anger.

Not strategic use of lethal force.

 

[Charlot123]

if his actions weren't suicidal, (mod edit no name calling) IMO. so which do you want to believe? saving this country requires both the red and the blue to wake up and see that the fighting is artificial, manufactured by the rich elite to keep the status quo, maintaining their wealth at any costs- even if civil war MOO. Apparently I am open minded enough to allow the investigation to suggest suicide or homicide, without being personally offended. I love this site, and everyone's honest opinions.

Was Hector suicidal?

Was Gaius Mucius Scaevola suicidal?

Was Christ suicidal?

Was Giordano Bruno suicidal?

Was any person in history, there are many, who decided to stand for his truth, without waiting for a big group to get together, suicidal?

What about the "pink coat" who continued videotaping after 10 bullets were shot into Pretti's body? Was she suicidal?

I doubt that it was about saving his country, even.

It was about saving his city and the life that he knew and loved, methinks.

 

[Inthedetails]

Governor of Minnesota interview today

 

[Strangeworld]

I'm hopeful that there are some others that might be saved by having an understanding of this very sentence....though I'd edit it back to my original thought, in my opinion, he'd be alive today if he had not inserted himself into the situation. The entire situation is much more than the individual incident. It's political. It's social. It's personal. It's already escalated to prior violence and death. It wasn't just the incident with the woman. It's my opinion he obviously either sought out or went directly to that location with a purpose. There is evidence already in existence this was not his first encounter, said evidence posted on this thread. Was his presence legal? Yes. Was his carry of a firearm legal? Yes. Did he exercise poor judgement considering the totality of the circumstances? In my opinion, yes.

But this is the way authoritarian governments work - don't cause us any trouble, or the consequence could be anything up to and including death.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

https://bsky.app/profile/startribune.com%2Fpost%2F3mdobhmkqje23

 

[Inthedetails]

Six hundred clergy, including people who traveled from elsewhere, gathered in protest in Minneapolis.

“My faith calls for us to protect the inherent worth and dignity of all people,” O’Dell said. “These surge operations are threats to those principles.”

Kirzane described the federal government’s use of force as “grossly undemocratic and un-American.”

“Our values lead us to be decent to one another, even though there may be differences of opinion about immigration policy and indeed even immigration enforcement,” he said.

Local faith leaders join Minnesota protests

Adam O’Dell, music director at Hyde Park’s First Unitarian Church of Chicago, joined dozens of clergy members last Friday on a pilgrimage from George Floyd Square to a memorial site

www.hpherald.com

 

[statt#1]

You are really saying that it is possible that after we learn all the facts, that the agents who shot him did the right thing?

I'm not saying it, what I'm saying is in my opinion the law may determine it so.

 

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[LAborn]

'The shootings, along with the mounting examples of federal agents’ combative conduct, point to a concerning pattern of behavior, said Marc Brown, a longtime police officer and former instructor at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers.

“It’s disturbing,” said Mr. Brown, who taught classes on defensive tactics and use of force to federal agents, including those from ICE. “Overall, I think they need to reassess and regroup in terms of what they’re actually doing and what the mission is.”

...Mr. Stoughton said that many officers across the law enforcement profession were unhappy with the way federal agents had conducted themselves in Minneapolis and other cities.' Policing Experts Question Agents’ Conduct in Lead-Up to Shooting of Alex Pretti

 

[LAborn]

"Some policing experts said the shooting appeared unjustified and one said it amounted to murder. Others said they could not form a judgment until they knew more, particularly what threat the agent who fired thought he faced at that moment. The killing of Pretti, the second fatal shooting by a federal officer in Minneapolis this month, has also revived concerns about whether immigration enforcement officers are properly trained to deal with protesters.

“This video raises a lot of questions,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a Washington, D.C.-based organization of current and former law enforcement officials focused on improving policing." One called it murder. Some need more information. How policing experts see the Pretti shooting.

 

[LAborn]

"The tactics U.S. Border Patrol agents used against Alex Pretti in Minneapolis probably violate modern policing guidelines, several experts said, and add to a growing body of evidence that federal immigration officers are deviating from professional norms.

The Washington Post spoke with eight experts — all of whom have served in law enforcement or studied officer behavior — who pointed to a sequence of actions by federal immigration officers Saturday morning that go against training guidelines designed to de-escalate potentially volatile situations.

The policing experts cautioned that the videos do not capture all the events leading up to the moment officers try to arrest Pretti, and that it is difficult to clearly see and hear everything that happens. But they were unanimous in saying that the situation probably could have been avoided by employing basic policing tactics that prioritize public safety and communication." https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...lex-pretti-minneapolis-border-patrol-tactics/

 

[Inthedetails]

Fund-raiser for families of Renee and Alex this afternoon - with Rage Against the Machine and Bruce Springsteen at the beloved venue, First Ave, in downtown Minneapolis.

 

[Marantz4250b]

But they were unanimous in saying that the situation probably could have been avoided by employing basic policing tactics that prioritize public safety and communication." https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...lex-pretti-minneapolis-border-patrol-tactics/

I get that they have a professional duty to tread a line between both sides. But.......the situation would have been avoided if they had simply walked away when they lost their quarry in the donut shop, rather than choosing to assault people doing nothing more than exercising their constitutional rights.

 

[Inthedetails]

bbm

For the second week in a row, thousands of people in downtown Minneapolis marched to protest the presence of immigration enforcement agents in their city. Demonstrations were also organized in other U.S. cities, including Los Angeles, Boston, New York, and Portland, Maine.

Photos: Thousands once again protest ICE in Minneapolis and across the U.S.

Demonstrators in Minneapolis and other U.S. cities participated in protests as part of a "national shutdown" to end immigration enforcement operations.

www.whro.org

 

[JennieM]

1 hr 30 min ago

Arrests of journalists and “violence” inflicted by ICE is fueling massive protests, Minnesota lt. gov says​

From CNN's Emma Tucker

The arrests of former CNN anchor Don Lemon and independent journalist Georgia Fort in connection to a Minnesota church protest earlier this month were “chilling” in the context of their First Amendment rights, the state’s Lt. Governor Peggy Flanagan told CNN.

“This is our democracy on the line, and what is happening in Minnesota can come to your town and we have to do everything we can to lift our voices to stop it,” said Flanagan, who added the state had no information beforehand about the arrests of the two journalists who have since been released.

Those arrests, along with the fear, chaos and “violence that ICE agents are inflicting on our community” is fueling tens and thousands of people to show up for protests across the country today, Flanagan added.

White House border czar Tom Homan said this week he had ordered federal immigration authorities to work on a drawdown plan for law enforcement in Minnesota. When asked about how the reality of that plan is playing out in the state, Flanagan said, “I think they’re playing musical chairs with Bovino, Homan and Kristi Noem,” adding it doesn’t seem to be the plan for President Donald Trump.

https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-ice-minneapolis-protests-01-30-26?t=1769824156197

 

[LAborn]

I get that they have a professional duty to tread a line between both sides. But.......the situation would have been avoided if they had simply walked away when they lost their quarry in the donut shop, rather than choosing to assault people doing nothing more than exercising their constitutional rights.

IMO experts in the field are speaking out because this reflects poorly on the profession as a whole. That it's not the norm, not what they are taught.

 

[Sillybilly]

To our knowledge, there is no information or report of any kind to support speculation that Alex was suicidal or had, at any time, exhibited suicidal ideation.

Had he wanted "suicide by cop" you can, for example, point your firearm at LE and basically dare them to shoot you. Or, you can do a jig in the middle of the road while firing your own weapon into the air or wildly into the crowd, etc etc

No need to bring your own gun, but if you do, you don't have it secured in its holster, and hope that some lady will randomly get pushed down beside you so you can bend down to help her and hope "okay now for sure they'll shoot me".

All my personal opinion.

 

[keek]

bbm

For the second week in a row, thousands of people in downtown Minneapolis marched to protest the presence of immigration enforcement agents in their city. Demonstrations were also organized in other U.S. cities, including Los Angeles, Boston, New York, and Portland, Maine.View attachment 640763

Photos: Thousands once again protest ICE in Minneapolis and across the U.S.

Demonstrators in Minneapolis and other U.S. cities participated in protests as part of a "national shutdown" to end immigration enforcement operations.

www.whro.org

There's someone that knows: S.Miller has his own poster. IMO

 

[branmuffin]

My hypothesis on Jan 24, 2026, Alex Pretti shooting: suicide by proxy (suicide by cop) + volenti non fit injuria. Studies show 10-36% of OIS involve SBC (Mohandie 2009; Hutson 1998).Key points:

• Constructive intent: Brought 9mm + extra mags to armed fed confrontation, creating lethal zone. Returned post-Jan 13 with more ammo—why if no intent to harm self/others?
• Fog of uncertainty: Armed resistance forced "plus one" threat assumption per CBP training. Continued struggle post-disarmament sustained fear.
• Rehearsal: Jan 13 videos show erratic behavior (expletives, spitting, escape w/o drawing)—desensitized him for Jan 24 escalation. Ambivalence common in SBC.
• Mindset: 2024 VA tribute choked up on "sacrifice for freedom"—suggests openness to martyrdom.

Reframes as Pretti's agency/"original sin," not just agent failure. Aligns w/ Graham v. Connor reasonableness amid uncertainty. Not victim-blaming if orchestrated via attempts.No direct proof beyond public info. Suggest psych autopsy/expert review of comms/records.

You must have watched the extended play version of the murder of Alex Pretti. Where can I watch the video that illustrates your points?

 

[branmuffin]

Its very similar to domestic abuse too
- As long as the woman has the dinner ready on time she doesn't get beaten

It's a look at what You Made ME do - if you only behaved I would not of had to kill you.

VICTIM BLAMING
SOSOSO TWISTED
JMO

The mission statement of Stephen Miller, Donald Trump, ICE, CBP, Krist Noem and now Tom Homan, the border Czar seem to follow the sarcastic saying that started circling in the 1970s : Beatings (killings) will continue until morale improves.