Members' Theories #2

[Logic101]

Logic101,
Yes, but many were. The contents of the wrapped and partially wrapped gifts have never been made public.

So we are limited to Patsy or John telling us they hid Burke's Birthday gifts in the wine-cellar.

Now is this factually correct or were they placed there postmortem?

Its likely Burke was searching the basement for other Christmas gifts, he probably knew that there were more gifts to come when they were on vacation?

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Do you honestly believe that Burke went down to that basement looking for additional Christmas gifts when he had a mother-lode sitting right there before him under the Christmas tree?

 

[UKGuy]

Do you honestly believe that Burke went down to that basement looking for additional Christmas gifts when he had a mother-lode sitting right there before him under the Christmas tree?

Logic101,
James Kolar says Burke Ramsey visited the basement on Christmas Day afternoon.


With children and Christmas who knows what runs through their minds. I think it was Kolar who suggested JonBenet's Secret Santa might really be that he (Santa) will return while the Ramsey's are on vacation with more gifts for Burke and JonBenet?

The thing is with some of the gifts Partially Opened this is prima facie evidence that someone was looking for additional Christmas gifts.

Which moves the dial slightly beyond that of mere belief.

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[icedtea4me]

Thanks for that. "Replicate" means to copy or reproduce something. Only in the very loosest definition of the word could it mean "fake".

Are you taking refuge in semantics because staging an accident is less complicated than staging a home invader and ransom plot?

Why don't you state how you think the parents could replicate bruises so well as to not draw any suspicion from the medical examiner?

 

[Logic101]

Logic101,
James Kolar says Burke Ramsey visited the basement on Christmas Day afternoon.


With children and Christmas who knows what runs through their minds. I think it was Kolar who suggested JonBenet's Secret Santa might really be that he (Santa) will return while the Ramsey's are on vacation with more gifts for Burke and JonBenet?

The thing is with some of the gifts Partially Opened this is prima facie evidence that someone was looking for additional Christmas gifts.

Which moves the dial slightly beyond that of mere belief.

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You did not say the magic words! Unfortunately, Kolar is not a person I put any trust in, whatsoever.

 

[icedtea4me]

Logic101,
James Kolar says Burke Ramsey visited the basement on Christmas Day afternoon.


With children and Christmas who knows what runs through their minds. I think it was Kolar who suggested JonBenet's Secret Santa might really be that he (Santa) will return while the Ramsey's are on vacation with more gifts for Burke and JonBenet?

The thing is with some of the gifts Partially Opened this is prima facie evidence that someone was looking for additional Christmas gifts.

Which moves the dial slightly beyond that of mere belief.

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John Ramsey referred to himself as Santa in the 1st(?) chapter of DoI.

What if it went down like this?

John to JonBenet: "Santa [referring to himself] is going to pay you a secret visit after Christmas."

 

[ekardh]

Why don't you state how you think the parents could replicate bruises so well as to not draw any suspicion from the medical examiner?

By creating the accident they alleged happened.

 

[UKGuy]

John Ramsey referred to himself as Santa in the 1st(?) chapter of DoI.

What if it went down like this?

John to JonBenet: "Santa [referring to himself] is going to pay you a secret visit after Christmas."

icedtea4me,
Yes, entirely possible.

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[icedtea4me]

By creating the accident they alleged happened.

So they should've, for example, taken her unconscious body to the top of, let's say, the spiral staircase and pushed it down so she could develop bruises?

 

[lonewanderer]

You know when kids break things and commonly they try to hide what they broke to try and hide what they had done? My theory:

Burke hits JB over the head in a rage over something, perhaps the theory that she stole some of his pineapple snack. Fractured skull, brain bleed... she's not waking up. So he freaks out. Makes himself a toggle rope using his boy scout knowledge and attempts to 'hide' JB in the basement. This process inadvertently kills her by preventing blood flow to her head as he's dragging her down there. Parents wake up, eventually find out what happened. Oh ****, our ****** up son just killed our daughter. Patsy is freaking out, she's just found out her cancer has returned and has made the realization that Burke will be institutionalized for longer than the period she potentially has to live. She just lost one child, she may lose another. The father on the other hand knows the news of this will probably put him out of commission. So they (poorly) fabricate a kidnapping tale and the rest is history.

Things of note:

1. Burke had a history of acting out in a rage. He had hit JB over the head with a golf club previously, leaving a scar.
2. Several 'my son needs help' type books were found in the house. I think the family knew Burke was a lose screw.
3. The 'taser marks' were likely made by a piece of his train set whilst poking her in a childish attempt by Burke to wake her up.
4. The unknown DNA profile found on the underwear, two theories: either DNA picked up from the carpet whilst Burke was dragging her, or someone left it accidentally during production.
5. Not sure what to make of the vaginal scarring, I'm not going to get into potential sexual abuse however predators have been known to be involved in the child pageant industry in which she was apart of.
6. The empty suitcase found near her body, perhaps was to be used to move her outside the house to be hidden elsewhere. The parents probably didnt have the heart to treat their child like that and left her where she was instead.
7. Speaking of suitcases, what to make of the other suitcase found in the basement that had two items: a semen stained childs blanket, and a bunch of childrens books? The semen DNA matched John Ramsey's son from a previous marriage.

I have heard a few theories about this, including the ones named here.

A theory put forth by Dr Henry Lee is that the DNA could have some from the person who made it in the factory, though I have my own idea that I have never seen put forward:

The Ramseys had hired help. Gardeners and maids for example (though in all of the crime scene photos that house is way worse than any trailer I ever visited as a cable guy, disgusting dump). Is is SO hard to believe that a hired help (maid for example) handled the laundry as in washing and folding it before the garment was worn by JB?