Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #11

[flourish]

AK on her computer:

GCM: Excuse me, difensore. When was the last time that you used your computer?

AK: I was listening to music. When I was at home, my computer was always on, and
when I left I turned it off. The last time I used it must have been on Nov 1,
when I came home. I changed clothes, I listened to music, I checked
this and that, and when I left, I turned it off.

LG: How do you explain that when your computer was subjected to examination, it was
burned up by an electric shock? Do you have any explanation?

AK: I think someone burned up my computer.

http://www.perugiamurderfile.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=165

Hmmm....:waitasec: R i g h t . For one, what does "burned up by an electric shock" mean exactly? Like, fried from surge overload, or blue-screen-of-death or what?

And sorry, but, LOL at that response (AK's answer). Perhaps she said it in a tone that would convey more of a "Well, uh....if you say that then someone must have 'burned' it because I haven't seen it since I turned it off on Nov. 1." But why not just say, "No, I have no idea what you mean that my computer is burned up because the last time I used it on Nov. 1, it was working fine..."?

Just...weirdness, weirdness everywhere, and weirdness lost in translation.
I really, really should be fftobed: now...

 

[claudicici]

I caught the beginning of the program on the ID channel but then I had to go to work.
The part I saw really got to me emotionally.They re-enacted the scene where the dying Meredith leaves the bloody print on the wall.It was the first time I cried for Meredith and I got angry at Amanda again.Guilty or not,how could she have been so callous?
That's why I try to come up with excuses for her,like Asperger's because since I do not beleive in her guilt anymore I at least would like to develop a little bit of sympathy for her.She really does remind me of Casey Anthony a lot.There hardly is any forensic evidence against her as well ,it's mostly circumstancial.
I work with a guy from Nigeria who lived in Sienna at the time this happened.
I never asked him about this case until tonight.He had fire in his eyes when he told me Amanda Knox is guilty.He really got angry and went on a long rant about her.
He did not mention RS at all.He really is almost invisible in this case.I believe he is innocent whether or not there was any involvment from AK but I also don't have any emotion in regards to him.I don't feel sorry for him.It's so strange.

 

[SMK]

I caught the beginning of the program on the ID channel but then I had to go to work.
The part I saw really got to me emotionally.They re-enacted the scene where the dying Meredith leaves the bloody print on the wall.It was the first time I cried for Meredith and I got angry at Amanda again.Guilty or not,how could she have been so callous?
That's why I try to come up with excuses for her,like Asperger's because since I do not beleive in her guilt anymore I at least would like to develop a little bit of sympathy for her.She really does remind me of Casey Anthony a lot.There hardly is any forensic evidence against her as well ,it's mostly circumstancial.
I work with a guy from Nigeria who lived in Sienna at the time this happened.
I never asked him about this case until tonight.He had fire in his eyes when he told me Amanda Knox is guilty.He really got angry and went on a long rant about her.
He did not mention RS at all.He really is almost invisible in this case.I believe he is innocent whether or not there was any involvment from AK but I also don't have any emotion in regards to him.I don't feel sorry for him.It's so strange.

That is very sad about Meredith, and when viewing Hendry's pictures which show the finger-streaks of blood, I always feel sad for MK, but I get angry at Rudy Guede, not Amanda. I also feel very sorry for Sollecito. Amanda may have her quirks but I feel Guede is responsible for the murder, and he alone. Did the show give any new perspective? Oh, will have to ask Steve as you said you had to go to work.

 

[SMK]

Another thing I wanted to add, as I feel it is important: I do believe Hendry's analysis, that Guded was surprised by MK's early return, and responded by killing her. Considering that prior to this, he had only been a petty thief, makes me deduce that taking this huge leap to killer was due to the fact that he really did enter via the broken window.

Because: If he had been let in by AK, he could have gotten out of the bind, by saying to Meredith, "Hey, sorry, I was using your bathroom, Amanda said no one was home tonight and I could hang out here, but I will be going now, really sorry". The worst MK could have done was be mad, maybe say something like , "Well, why did she say you could hang here? I really do not appreciate this!" But to feel he had to kill her, to use the knife, I believe Rudy must have known MK could see that she was coming in on a robbery in progress, as Hendry asserts - and that he had entered unlawfully, and consequently was destroying his relationship with the guys downstairs, and would now be known as a criminal, & would be arrested and shamed in Perugia - Hence, he felt he had no choice but to kill her. He had been lucky til then; now his luck had run out.

 

[SMK]

One thing I have noticed going on at Perugia Murder File, they are swallowing that story told by a "Daric Richie" that he and his mother were attacked by a group of Friends of Amanda recently. There is NO proof of such a story, nothing reported in the press, no police reports made , no witnesses coming forward - and yet they are swallowing wholesale this idea that a 16 year old kid was mobbed by a throng of Knox supporters because he supposedly read the Massei Report and now thinks Knox is guilty. I think this is libelous and outrageous.

 

[SMK]

I am relieved to see that the above has been sniffed out now by others. http://guilter.blogspot.com/2011/04/daric-rawrrichie-outsmarts-pmf.html

 

[sherlockh]

One thing I have noticed going on at Perugia Murder File, they are swallowing that story told by a "Daric Richie" that he and his mother were attacked by a group of Friends of Amanda recently. There is NO proof of such a story, nothing reported in the press, no police reports made , no witnesses coming forward - and yet they are swallowing wholesale this idea that a 16 year old kid was mobbed by a throng of Knox supporters because he supposedly read the Massei Report and now thinks Knox is guilty. I think this is libelous and outrageous.

First it was Perugia Shock Blog against PMF, then it became JREF against PMF, and now it is some Injustice site against PMF? Some people have way too much free time on their hands. If you don't like PMF then don't read it. Simple

 

[SMK]

First it was Perugia Shock Blog against PMF, then it became JREF against PMF, and now it is some Injustice site against PMF? Some people have way too much free time on their hands. If you don't like PMF then don't read it. Simple

I think it is important that they were taking such an accusation seriously, without bothering to check facts, and I am sure they would be more than willing, as they always are, to point this kind of thing out about another site. I have NO idea what your first sentence means, but it sure does not apply to me.

 

[sherlockh]

I think it is important that they were taking such an accusation seriously, without bothering to check facts, and I am sure they would be more than willing, as they always are, to point this kind of thing out about another site. I have NO idea what your first sentence means, but it sure does not apply to me.

That is probably because i didn't really understand what you were talking about...lol... Why talk about other forums anyway? There is only one that matters ...websleuths...:great:

 

[SMK]

That is probably because i didn't really understand what you were talking about...lol... Why talk about other forums anyway? There is only one that matters ...websleuths...:great:

First, many people look to PMF as a source of info; this was discussed here just last night. Second, PMF went to great lengths to "expose" Bruce Fisher and others, including delving into my own blog and Facebook and trying to discover something amiss (they couldn't). So I think it is important when some fake makes an accusation that he and his mother were threatened by a pro-Knox group, and forced to leave town, that PMF checks this guy out before hailing him as a martyr on their site. The Examiner and other venues are now deleting the false reports, and if I feel it is relevant to those who post here, I will certainly talk about it. I am just relieved to see it has all been exposed now, and that internet news outlets are deleting.

 

[SMK]

Thought this was interesting, and hope it has some bearing:

The Amanda Knox trial has captured international attention with headlines of a college girl from Seattle convicted of murdering her British roommate.

A Boise State DNA researcher says Knox is innocent - and says the data proves it.

Dr. Greg Hampikian was doing research in London when he was introduced to the Amanda Knox case.

Knox's defense lawyer asked if he could take a look at the data. What he found astounded him.

"I was very shocked that this was it--this was the one piece of evidence, it's a one off test. They have hundreds of pieces of evidence that they took from this crime scene," Hampikian said.

He said the DNA evidence they were using to incriminate Knox in the original trial was an extremely low level of DNA.

"[The level of DNA was] not anything that would implicate that a murder had taken place using this kitchen knife," he said.

"It's looking in an area of the results where the machine's really not accurate unless you've specially trained your machines to work in that range - and I don't think there's evidence that they've done that in this case."

His reports weren't allowed in the trial because the judge didn't want foreign forensic reports. But the lawyers were able to use the unique points from their reports in their arguments. That helped to result in the new DNA testing that the appeals court judge has ordered.

He says none of the pieces taken from the crime scene pointed to Knox or her ex-boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito – the evidence all pointed to Rudy Guede. Guede's DNA was everywhere, he says - in the victim's room and on her body.

Guede has been convicted of murder. But so have Knox and her ex-boyfriend.

He believes Knox was not at all involved in the murder.

"Why they persisted in still charging and convicting Knox and Sollecito, I don't know," he said.

"It's a pretty simple story. If they waited for the DNA first, they would have solved this quickly without any kind of mess."

Instead, he says the investigators stuck to their gut feelings.

"Nothing wrong with a gut feeling--for an investigation. But when the DNA speaks, you've got to put away the gut feeling if it's wrong. They didn't do that in this case."

The new DNA test results will be revealed in court on May 29.http://www.kivitv.com/story/14477893/amanda-knox-is-innocent-says-bsu-researcher

 

[dgfred]

Just to be clear, there is no 'new testing' of the knife. The review will be of the previous testing and results... and their validity. Same holds true for the bra clasp at this point it seems.

 

[SMK]

Just to be clear, there is no 'new testing' of the knife. The review will be of the previous testing and results... and their validity. Same holds true for the bra clasp at this point it seems.

That is what I thought, and they ought not to word it that way, then...

 

[miley]

You realize Frank is not his real name, but his 'blogging' name. When cpj realizes that he is not really an actual journalist will they still feel the same?

He is an internet blogger... not employed by a media service. Frank S is like you being SMK here.

Maybe you should do a little research on it then. Then you will know ludicrous.

Recognizing him and him being an actual 'journalist' working for a major or minor network are two different things.

You have research who Frank is... and what he actually does for a living?

If so you would not have posted 'ludicrous' and would not be doubting the things I have posted. I got my information from PMF during the past few days originally.
I have no intention of repeating when you 'claim stuff'... whether it is mocked or not I have no control over. Nor do I have any intentions of misleading anyone or giving misleading information.

Did your 'research' show that his problems from LE don't come from this case at all, but from something totally unrelated?

Then what is your intent?

Just to be clear, there is no 'new testing' of the knife. The review will be of the previous testing and results... and their validity. Same holds true for the bra clasp at this point it seems.

can you provide a source (no pseudonyms)

 

[dgfred]

What is your question?

The report from the appeals court was that the bra clasp has deteriorated and there is not enough dna on the knife to retest... sooo, they will have to review the previous findings.

Why do you need a source for reading about their finding? It is public knowledge.

 

[dgfred]

Frank is an amatuer internet blogger... IMO that is not a 'journalist' but I guess it doesn't really matter one way or another to the actual case. I was only giving information I had read elsewhere... including pseudonyms
Oh, I guess it was only a 'drive-by' posting at me.

 

[flourish]

Another thing I wanted to add, as I feel it is important: I do believe Hendry's analysis, that Guded was surprised by MK's early return, and responded by killing her. Considering that prior to this, he had only been a petty thief, makes me deduce that taking this huge leap to killer was due to the fact that he really did enter via the broken window.

Because: If he had been let in by AK, he could have gotten out of the bind, by saying to Meredith, "Hey, sorry, I was using your bathroom, Amanda said no one was home tonight and I could hang out here, but I will be going now, really sorry". The worst MK could have done was be mad, maybe say something like , "Well, why did she say you could hang here? I really do not appreciate this!" But to feel he had to kill her, to use the knife, I believe Rudy must have known MK could see that she was coming in on a robbery in progress, as Hendry asserts - and that he had entered unlawfully, and consequently was destroying his relationship with the guys downstairs, and would now be known as a criminal, & would be arrested and shamed in Perugia - Hence, he felt he had no choice but to kill her. He had been lucky til then; now his luck had run out.

RBBM--how in the world did he manage to get in the window, which IIRC had shards of glass clearly hanging inward from the frame, and not get cut, I wonder? And I know about the photo of the guy standing on the bars below that window in order to reach that window, but if it's really possible to get in the top window that way, why don't we see pictures of the grate-standing guy actually climbing in the window?

 

[SMK]

What is your question?

The report from the appeals court was that the bra clasp has deteriorated and there is not enough dna on the knife to retest... sooo, they will have to review the previous findings.

Why do you need a source for reading about their finding? It is public knowledge.

Well, that is sure unfair. Neither a sincere appeal, nor a just review. Blimey.

 

[SMK]

RBBM--how in the world did he manage to get in the window, which IIRC had shards of glass clearly hanging inward from the frame, and not get cut, I wonder? And I know about the photo of the guy standing on the bars below that window in order to reach that window, but if it's really possible to get in the top window that way, why don't we see pictures of the grate-standing guy actually climbing in the window?

Good questions, but it may still be possible he entered via the window. But as stated, your questions are good ones.

 

[SMK]

Frank is an amatuer internet blogger... IMO that is not a 'journalist' but I guess it doesn't really matter one way or another to the actual case. I was only giving information I had read elsewhere... including pseudonyms
Oh, I guess it was only a 'drive-by' posting at me.

All the rage these days, I am seeing. . .