Mexico - Kaleo Skye, 3 & Roxy Rain 10 mos, killed by dad, Rosarito, 10 Aug 2021 *arrest in CA*

New Posts

  • #381
Not by name, but MTC is mentioned in this article.

Why QAnon followers are like opioid addicts, and why that matters (nbcnews.com)

"The week before, people around the country struggled to comprehend a gruesome homicide allegedly committed by a QAnon-following father who, according to authorities, told the FBI he killed his two small children because he believed they’d inherited from their mother lizard DNA that would turn them into monsters. Last spring, a mother admitted to killing her three children, saying she wanted to protect them from becoming victims..."

[...]

"It is also likely that prolonged exposure to QAnon content exacerbates or even triggers mental illness, as watching video after video about horrific devastation can have a detrimental effect on anyone’s mental health. This then increases the appeal of the remedies QAnon prescribes, such as..."
 
  • #382
Curious Me said:
Not by name, but MTC is mentioned in this article.

Why QAnon followers are like opioid addicts, and why that matters (nbcnews.com)

"The week before, people around the country struggled to comprehend a gruesome homicide allegedly committed by a QAnon-following father who, according to authorities, told the FBI he killed his two small children because he believed they’d inherited from their mother lizard DNA that would turn them into monsters. Last spring, a mother admitted to killing her three children, saying she wanted to protect them from becoming victims..."

[...]

"It is also likely that prolonged exposure to QAnon content exacerbates or even triggers mental illness, as watching video after video about horrific devastation can have a detrimental effect on anyone’s mental health. This then increases the appeal of the remedies QAnon prescribes, such as..."
Click to expand...
More from your link:

...Moreover, the internet platforms through which most QAnon followers consume content are deliberately structured to sustain user engagement and foster a kind of addiction. In fact, these online QAnon experiences seem to engage the same brain structures responsible for addiction, as solving the “puzzles” revealed by conspiracy theories may prompt pleasure-driving dopamine hits...

and:

...QAnon shares one last parallel with addictive drugs: There is a small but powerful group of individuals who benefit financially and politically from amplifying, spreading and legitimizing QAnon’s conspiracy theories...

Fascinating. The article criticizing conspiracy theories offers a conspiracy theory as a way to understand why believers believe conspiracy theories.

Of course.
 
  • #383
MTC's family, friends and, most likely, his wife were probably at a loss to help him get grounded in reality again. Many are not sure how to even talk to someone lost in conspiracy theories. It gets difficult, sometimes impossible to give an opposing view.

I found these article and this author's suggestions simply put, helpful, and practical. He speaks from experience too.
How to Help a Friend Who Believes in QAnon Conspiracy Theories

Opinion: I was a member of a cult. Here's how to bring QAnon believers back to reality - CNN
coastal said:
In fact, these online QAnon experiences seem to engage the same brain structures responsible for addiction, as solving the “puzzles” revealed by conspiracy theories may prompt pleasure-driving dopamine hits...
Click to expand...
MTC kept reading and using more brain power towards the conspiracy theories. I don't doubt it was some kind of dopamine hit. Finding secrets and the rush of enlightenment might've been MTC's addicting stimuli. BTW, there's a new non-fiction book called Dopamine Nation on this subject about how we are bombarded by pleasure stimuli which makes us "vulnerable to compulsive overconsumption". The book talks about pleasure turning to pain and urges finding balance.
coastal said:
Fascinating. The article criticizing conspiracy theories offers a conspiracy theory as a way to understand why believers believe conspiracy theories.
Click to expand...
Great find. Have to laugh at the way you pointed it out. (So true she says with a sad chuckle.)
 
  • #384
Curious Me said:
MTC's family, friends and, most likely, his wife were probably at a loss to help him get grounded in reality again. Many are not sure how to even talk to someone lost in conspiracy theories. It gets difficult, sometimes impossible to give an opposing view.

I found these article and this author's suggestions simply put, helpful, and practical. He speaks from experience too.
How to Help a Friend Who Believes in QAnon Conspiracy Theories

Opinion: I was a member of a cult. Here's how to bring QAnon believers back to reality - CNN
MTC kept reading and using more brain power towards the conspiracy theories. I don't doubt it was some kind of dopamine hit. Finding secrets and the rush of enlightenment might've been MTC's addicting stimuli. BTW, there's a new non-fiction book called Dopamine Nation on this subject about how we are bombarded by pleasure stimuli which makes us "vulnerable to compulsive overconsumption". The book talks about pleasure turning to pain and urges finding balance.
Great find. Have to laugh at the way you pointed it out. (So true she says with a sad chuckle.)
Click to expand...
I completely believe the part about chasing a dopamine hit by following internet clues. I mean, here we are, sleuthing, lol.
a035.gif
 
  • #385
coastal said:
I completely believe the part about chasing a dopamine hit by following internet clues. I mean, here we are, sleuthing, lol.
a035.gif
Click to expand...
:(
 
  • #386
Just my own thoughts, that dopamine may make people feel good when first starting out putting puzzle pieces together in conspiracy theories, but pleasure turns to pain. Those same people end up sometimes being untrusting, angry, and even violent. We need to stay balanced and grounded, and look at facts not believe just anything.
coastal said:
In fact, these online QAnon experiences seem to engage the same brain structures responsible for addiction, as solving the “puzzles” revealed by conspiracy theories may prompt pleasure-driving dopamine hits...
Click to expand...
From your link:
"When a conspiracy believer's ideas are challenged, their pattern recognition brain areas aren't the only parts in play. People who subscribe to conspiracies tend to think intuitively or emotionally rather than analytically, according to a 2014 study in Cognition."
[...]
"Dopamine is a part of this pattern processing, and Hafeez says that people with higher levels of dopamine in their brains have been shown to be more likely to believe out-there theories." ...BBM
 
  • #387
  • #388
Satchie said:
Just to point out, opioid addicts don't kill their children.

Chris Watts wasn't taking opioids, and I wouldn't say having an affair made him kill his children.

Something might be a trigger, but IMO being a psychopath or otherwise personality disordered, are the cause.
Click to expand...

Yep, they are too busy killing themselves.

I just read the article, and I think the author compared qanon to opioids in a bit of a sensational way. Qanon conspiracies become an addiction for a lot of people. Addictions can ruin lives and families, whether it’s addiction to drugs, alcohol, conspiracies, 🤬🤬🤬🤬, sex, etc. I don’t doubt that engaging in these ridiculous, paranoid theories gives a lot of Qs a dopamine rush, but thankfully, people aren’t dying left and right as a result of their conspiracy theory addiction.

There’s no doubt in my mind that a correlation between opioid addiction and qanon addiction exists in some situations. Both addictions are terribly painful for loved ones, rampant, and not showing signs of slowing down very much. That being said, thankfully, 50,000 people per year don’t die of qanon overdoses like they do opioid overdoses.

Sorry for the rant, but both of these addictions are deeply personal to me. Upthread I mentioned my sister was getting into qanon BS before she died. But qanon didn’t kill her. Opioids did. Idk, they are just two totally different beasts.
 
  • #389
Satchie said:
...Chris Watts wasn't taking opioids, and I wouldn't say having an affair made him kill his children.
Click to expand...
Please read the parts of the article I highlighted to understand what the article is saying. People get an addictive high and a dopamine rush from many different activities, lust and love included.

Chris Watts was not into QAnon, so he wasn't mentioned by me but you. However, he was high on his affair, it sure didn't help him get a grip. It wasn't the only reason, but it was perhaps the catalyst. Yes, plenty of people are personality disordered and don't kill. The highlighted parts of the article aren't talking about killing. Well, that's JMO, and I hope you will read the gist of what I was saying.
 
  • #390
That is interesting. The only person I know who is right into the Q thing is also a very heavy gambler.
 
  • #391
The indictment filed today charges Coleman with two counts of foreign first-degree murder of United States nationals. By law, the charges are eligible for the death penalty. The Attorney General will decide whether to seek the death penalty at a later date.

Snip

Coleman is expected to make his initial court appearance on the indictment tomorrow in United States District Court in downtown Los Angeles. He will appear in United States District Court in San Diego, where the case will be prosecuted, at a date to be determined.

Santa Barbara Man Indicted in San Diego for Killing his Children in Mexico
 
  • #392
Bumping reminder of MC's arraignment on Thursday.

Seattle1 said:
I don't know if the evaluation is affecting the date.
There was one document manually filed under seal on Aug 19.

They've not disclosed where MC is being held but the post-indictment arraignment has been continued to Sept 9, 2021 so that's really not much of a delay considering there's a federal holiday on Sept 6.

CM/ECF - California Central District
Click to expand...
 
  • #393
Seattle1 said:
Bumping reminder of MC's arraignment on Thursday.
Click to expand...

Appears there's a change after the grand jury indictment:

Coleman previously was charged with the same crimes in a federal complaint filed in Los Angeles. Prosecutors intend to dismiss that complaint. Coleman is expected to make his initial court appearance on the indictment tomorrow in United States District Court in downtown Los Angeles. He will appear in United States District Court in San Diego, where the case will be prosecuted, at a date to be determined.

Santa Barbara Man Indicted in San Diego for Killing his Children in Mexico
 
  • #394
Seattle1 said:
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA (Western Division - Los Angeles)
CRIMINAL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:21-mj-03722-DUTY All Defendants

Case title: USA v. Coleman

Date Filed: 08/11/2021

Assigned to: Duty Magistrate Judge

Defendant (1)
Matthew Taylor Coleman
REG 59551-509

represented by Elena Rose Sadowsky
Federal Public Defenders Office
321 East 2nd Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012-4202
213-894-7330
Fax: 213-894-0081
Email: [email protected]
LEAD ATTORNEY
ATTORNEY TO BE NOTICED
Designation: Public Defender or Community Defender Appointment

Pending Counts
None
Disposition

Highest Offense Level (Opening)
None

Terminated Counts
None
Disposition

Highest Offense Level (Terminated)
None

Complaints
Defendant in violation of 18:1119,1111
Disposition

Plaintiff
USA

Date Filed #Docket Text

08/11/2021
#1 COMPLAINT filed as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman in violation of 18:1119,1111. Approved by Magistrate Judge Jacqueline Chooljian as to Matthew Taylor Coleman (1). (mhe) (Entered: 08/11/2021)

08/11/2021
#2 NOTICE OF REQUEST FOR DETENTION filed by Plaintiff USA as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman (mhe) (Entered: 08/11/2021)

08/11/2021
#4 REPORT COMMENCING CRIMINAL ACTION as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman; defendants Year of Birth: 1981; date of arrest: 8/9/2021 (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#5 MINUTES OF INITIAL APPEARANCE ON LOCAL COMPLAINT held before Magistrate Judge Jacqueline Chooljian as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman. Court issues Order under Fed. R. Crim. P. 5(f) concerning prosecutors disclosure obligations;see General Order 21-02 (written order). Defendant arraigned and advised of the charges. Defendant states true name as charged. Attorney: Elena Rose Sadowsky for Matthew Taylor Coleman, Deputy Federal Public Defender, present. Court orders defendant permanently detained. Defendant remanded to the custody of the U.S. Marshal. Preliminary Hearing set for 8/25/2021 11:30 AM before Duty Magistrate Judge. Post-Indictment Arraignment set for 8/31/2021 11:30 AM before Duty Magistrate Judge. (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#6 ORDER OF DETENTION by Magistrate Judge Jacqueline Chooljian as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman, (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#7 CONSENT to Video Conference/Telephonic Conference filed by Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman. (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#8 ADVISEMENT OF STATUTORY & CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS filed by Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman. (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#9 FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT filed as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman. (Not for Public View pursuant to the E-Government Act of 2002) (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#10 ASSERTION OF FIFTH AND SIXTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS filed by Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman (mhe) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/11/2021
#12 NOTICE DIRECTING DEFENDANT TO APPEAR for Preliminary Hearing and Arraignment on Indictment/Information. Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman is directed to appear for Preliminary Hearing on 8/25/21 at 11:30 am and for Post Indictment Arraignment on 8/31/21 at 11:30 am before the Duty Magistrate Judge. (mhe) (Entered: 08/19/2021)

08/16/2021
#3 WAIVER of Preliminary Examination or Hearing by Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman (Sadowsky, Elena) (Entered: 08/16/2021)

08/19/2021
#11 NOTICE of Manual Filing of Ex Parte to Seal; [Proposed] Order to Seal; and Under Seal Document filed by Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman (Karlin, Amy) (Entered: 08/19/2021)

08/20/2021
#13 AMENDED COMPLAINT filed as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman in violation of 18:1119,1111. Approved by Magistrate Judge Pedro V. Castillo USA. (mhe) (Entered: 08/23/2021)

08/24/2021
#14 STIPULATION to Continue Post-Indictment Arraignment Date from 8/20/21 to 9/9/21 filed by Plaintiff USA as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order)(Butler, Kevin) (Entered: 08/24/2021)

08/24/2021
#15 ORDER CONTINUING POSTINDICTMENT ARRAIGNMENT DATE FOR DEFENDANT MATTHEW TAYLOR COLEMAN by Magistrate Judge Margo A. Rocconi as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman, re Stipulation to Continue 14 . (mhe) (Entered: 08/24/2021)
__________________
End of docket 8/27/2021

@Niner
Click to expand...

Update to Docket 9-8-2021:

09/08/2021
#16 NOTICE OF LODGING filed by Plaintiff USA as to Defendant Matthew Taylor Coleman OF ORDER FOR DISMISSAL OF MAGISTRATES COMPLAINT AS TO DEFENDANT MATTHEW TAYLOR COLEMAN (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order)(Butler, Kevin) (Entered: 09/08/2021)
 
  • #395
Santa Barbara Surf School Owner Matthew Coleman Indicted In Killings Of His 2 Young Children In Mexico

9/8/2021

SAN DIEGO (CBSLA) — A Santa Barbara man was indicted Wednesday by a federal grand jury for taking his two young children to Mexico and killing them with a spear gun.

Matthew Taylor Coleman, 40, was charged with two counts of foreign first-degree murder of United States nationals, according to the indictment filed Wednesday. The charges make Coleman eligible for the death penalty, but the Attorney General will decide at a later date whether to do so.
 
  • #396
  • #397
Thursday, Sept. 9th:
*Arraignment Hearing (@ am PT) –Mexico/CA - Kaleo Skye (3) & Roxy Rain (10 mos.) Coleman (reported missing Aug. 8, 2021, Santa Barbara & found on Aug. 9, 2021 by a farmworker in Rosarito, Mexico) - *Matthew Taylor Coleman (40) arrested (8/9/21 @ Mexican/US border in San Ysidro checkpoint) & charged (8/11/21) with 2 counts of “foreign murder of U.S. nationals”. Held without bond.
Case info reference post #365 here:
Mexico - Kaleo Skye, 3 & Roxy Rain 10 mos, killed by US surf instructor dad, Rosarito, 10 Aug 2021
8/11/21 Update: Coleman made his first appearance in U.S. District Court via video in downtown Los Angeles on August 11, 2021, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Coleman is being represented by Elena Rose Sadowsky of the Federal Public Defenders Office. On Sunday, they submitted a waiver of preliminary hearing to the court. A magistrate judge ordered Coleman to be held without bond & set his arraignment for 8/31/21. He remains in custody without bail. Coleman is being held in protective custody. He has been charged with two counts of foreign murder of United States nationals. A law enforcement says in its upcoming issue that the next step is for Coleman to be assessed by a psychiatrist to determine whether he is fit to stand trial. It's unclear when the psychological assessment will be conducted -- or whether the results will be publicly released. Arraignment hearing was put on hold, next is a further proceedings hearing on 9/9/21.
9/8/21: Notice of Lodging filed by Plaintiff USA as to defendant Coleman of Order for Dismissal of magistrates complaint as to defendant Coleman.
 
  • #398
JayWill said:
That is interesting. The only person I know who is right into the Q thing is also a very heavy gambler.
Click to expand...
THIS.
The only person I know who is also way down the Q rabbit hole is an alcoholic.
 
  • #399
I lived in Asia for a while and I cannot tell you the number of young people I rescued from evangelical Christians in teams sweeping through trains with beatific smiles, cornering young people, mobbing them and trying to convert them to their particular religion. No different to the Qanoners.
 
  • #400
You must log in or register to reply here.

Members online

... and 97 more.
Total: 2,375 (members: 98, guests: 2,277)

Online statistics

Members online
98
Guests online
2,277
Total visitors
2,375
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
633,064
Messages
18,635,834
Members
243,395
Latest member
VeeTee(AU)
Back
Top