Found Deceased Mexico - Kevin, 41, Amy, 38, Sterling, 12, & Adrianna Sharp, 7, Tulum, 15 March 2018

[GigTu]

Does keeping a window open a small amount really defer the poisoning?

 

[borndem]

Radon poisoning?

 

[borndem]

Getting challenged by my memory of chemistry but carbon monoxide is CO (one oxygen) and CO2 is carbon dioxide (two oxygen)
CO is what the sensors pickup.CO2 is by just breathing.(and other)

BTW I failed organic chemistry.

I'm leaning with the above poster on pesticides or cleaning compounds.

I made a "C" and I was happy, happy, happy!

You are correct -- CO2 is carbon dioxide (0 = C = O) one carbon atom and 2 oxygen atoms; and CO is one carbon atom and one oxygen atom where their valences are equal

 

[borndem]

Wow How sad.

Gas poisoning is so scary. This is not the first case where an entire family is taken out. So scary.

It sounds like things are leaning toward CO poisoning but just want to share that pesticide sprays and things like that are real dangerous too.

I once tried to bug bomb a mobile home I lived in and even though we followed all the instructions and left the place and then aired it out for hours before entering we both became sick as dogs.

We were sick for weeks and never felt right until it finally wore off. The gas from the bug bombs got in the furniture and carpet and everywhere and it was horrible. I will never use those bug bombs again. And with sprays I am very careful where I spray them.

I also know a friend of mine who got sick from a pesticide company that sprayed their place. He ended up in hospital.

Anyway just wanted to share to be careful when spraying any bug spray or anything like that. It sounds like this case is leaning toward CO poisoning. An odorless gas that is hard to know its happening until its too late. So sad

Same here -- we lost a friend who had sprayed some type of powder (not liquid) on all his indoor plants with I-can't-remember-what, but it was advertised to be safe for the plants. (!) Anyway, he took a nap in his small apartment just after spraying the plants, and he never woke up. Autopsy attributed it to the plant spray.

 

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[brandnew]

There was an incredibly sad case in Vietnam of two young women who died, most likely of pesticide poisoning.

https://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/13/health/mysterious-tourist-deaths-asia/index.html

 

[jjenny]

Have had detectors for many years. But, I always leave a bedroom window opened just a bit. Never heard of this happening in a tropical climate before.

If there are any devices that could emit carbon monoxide, such as pool heater, it wouldn't matter that the climate was tropical.

 

[jjenny]

Is carbon monoxide poisoning common in tropical climates ? I always thought it was more common in places with very cold winters. And that's why the advice to always leave a bedroom window a tiny bit open ? What would have caused this in such a hot climate ?

Climate makes no difference. It's not emitted by environment but by equipment. There was a case in North Carolina where several people died in hotel where carbon monoxide was emitted by pool heating equipment. This is the case. Three people died because of pool heater emitting carbon monoxide.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article68649217.html

 

[jjenny]

Radon poisoning?

I don't think radon is going to kill four people suddenly.

 

[jjenny]

There was a case where family vacationing in the Carribean got poisoned by pesticide. They didn't die but were severely affected. Because in the case we are discussing all people died quite suddenly, I think carbon monoxide is more likely than pesticide, but who knows until autopsy comes back.

“An entire family suffered horrendous and life-altering injuries."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2017/11/22/terminix-fined-pesticide-use/888444001/

 

[margarita25]

O/T, and not saying this is related, but there has been terrorism down there lately:

Explosives found on Mexican ferry, US embassy issues security alert
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/0...n-ferry-us-embassy-issues-security-alert.html

U.S. issues alert after tourist ferry explosion in Mexico
MARCH 1, 2018 / 22 DAYS AGO
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...urist-ferry-explosion-in-mexico-idUSKCN1GE0AC

US issues travel alert in Mexico after explosives were found on a ferry in a tourist hotspot
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-mexico-travel-alert-explosives-found-on-tourist-ferry-2018-3

 

[U2forever]

How very sad, a beautiful family gone. :cry:
My condolences to the family.

I guess we all need to be extra cautious no matter where we are and probably educate ourselves and family members of this danger.

 

[Kamille]

This is a good example of the Tao condos available to rent on the property of the Bahia Principe residences and golf course. The units are equipped with a gas oven and range and there are instructions regarding the use of the appliance right in the rental ad. Quite a lot of other info as well if you click on the read all rules link. Since it's likely they were renting a condo within this community, and it appears that at least one gas appliance was in the unit, I would think that CO poisoning is the likely cause of their deaths. This is also a secure gated community FWIW.

https://www.airbnb.ca/rooms/13997999?

 

[MsGazette]

You are right and lots of people get confused between the two.

Carbon Monoxide CO is the odorless deadly gas that gets produced when things like furnaces or heaters burn and suck the oxygen out of a room leaving carbon monoxide as a biproduct.

Carbon Dioxide CO2 is what we breath out when we breath in Oxygen and use it then we expel CO2. It is also used in those seltzer containers to give soda the bubbles. It can kill you too if there is no oxygen but it does not form from a furnace or heater. Like if you were in a box and breathed all the oxygen and only C02 is left then you could die that way too.

But most gas poisonings we hear about are the Carbon Monoxide CO type where a heater uses all the Oxygen and leaves carbon monoxide CO.


Thanks for bringing this up as it is confusing to lots of people.

Sorry about that! I meant CO. Thank you.


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[MsGazette]

Have had detectors for many years. But, I always leave a bedroom window opened just a bit. Never heard of this happening in a tropical climate before.

There are more and more cases in the news of this happening in hotels. It’s awful and very scary. Google will bring up too many cases-too many to post here :-(


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[JanetElaine]

If there are any devices that could emit carbon monoxide, such as pool heater, it wouldn't matter that the climate was tropical.

I read that as you wouldn't need to run a (room) heater in a tropical climate... but that could just be the way I interpret it. What other kind of devices could emit carbon dioxide in a vacation condo/apartment? Gas cookers maybe, or not?

 

[liz b.]

There are more and more cases in the news of this happening in hotels. It’s awful and very scary. Google will bring up too many cases-too many to post here :-(


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IF that's what happened here, it really is scary. I lived in Mexico City for several years, but have never heard of this happening in the area this family stayed in. I guess it pays to be extra careful. Very sad.

 

[Lamima]

Fireplace, hot tub, stove, hot water heater???? BBQ grill, if brought inside

 

[brandnew]

Fireplace, hot tub, stove, hot water heater???? BBQ grill, if brought inside

This happened in Germany in February, a family (including three children) nearly died after setting up a barbecue in their basement. Interestingly, it seems that paramedics here carry carbon monoxide meters as standard, so they recognised it immediately.

 

[Kas80]

I will definitely start carrying a portable detector in our luggage when we go on vacation now. It's something I literally never thought about before this case.