GUILTY MI - Carnel Chamberlain, 4, Mount Pleasant, 21 June 2012 #2

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Anthony Bennett’s troubled childhood includes removal from his parents’ home, termination of his parents’ rights, abuse and aggression.

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Bennett&#8217;s childhood is steeped with trauma, including unsuccessful efforts to unify his family in 2006, according to Isabella County Trial Court records.

Bennett&#8217;s mother took parenting classes but did not gain skills, according to court records.

Bennett was exhibiting &#8220;concerning sexualized/perpetrating behaviors&#8221; and had profound emotional disturbances, according to court records.

Bennett&#8217;s father failed twice to show up for scheduled psychological evaluations and showed &#8220;little interest&#8221; in his children, according to court records.

He also had severe substance abuse issues and a criminal history that included drunken driving, assault and drug use, according to court records.

Bennett spent time at a secure detention facility in Midland for assaulting a child and stabbing his sister, according to testimony from the Department of Human Services in probate court.

He also threatened a teacher, resulting in his school being on lock down, according to court records.

Full article at link:

http://www.themorningsun.com/article/20120706/NEWS/120709777/bennett-has-troubled-past

I believe the majority of the above is from AB's juvenille record which would have been unaccessible to anyone other than the authorities, the medical professionals and AB's parents.
 
  • #522
Also from the same article linked in my previous post:

At the age of 14, Bennett had conductive disorder, mood disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, and attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder and was diagnosed as bipolar, according to court records.
 
  • #523
I never much care what kind of crap a killer went through before he was a killer.

He still killed a small child in a horrific way.

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  • #524
I'm not posting AB's history because I care what happened to him as a child.

I'm posting it because it will likely come up in court. I'm also questioning why a guy with such a violent history skated through the system and someone somewhere let him slide on his priors. Carnel is not AB's first victim. Why was this guy on the streets even allowing him the chance at additional victims?
 
  • #525
:ohwow: :ohwow:


http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...t-denied-bail-in-carnel-case&pager=full_story

Here is a link to abuse by AB.

Wininger said Jaimee Chamberlain “has described assaults at the hands of Anthony Chamberlain.” Winginger said a Saginaw Tribal Police Report quoted a witness as seeing Bennett assault Jaimee Chamberlain and threatening to kill her if she left him
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From same article in above link:

Jaimee Chamberlain later denied that happened, according to Bennett’s attorney, Anthony Chambers. The assault charges Bennett faces are unsubstantiated, Chambers said, and Jaimee Chamberlain “wants to deflect attention from herself,” he said.
 
  • #526
When she went on Nancy Grace, and her little boy was missing, and he was last seen with AB, who was not cooperating with the cops, did she say that she was afraid of AB? Did she say that he threatened to kill her if she left him? And that she had been beaten by him previously?

NO. She pretty much sided with him, in describing the 'training' they were doing. She threw in with him, imo.
 
  • #527
&#8220;The contest of this case is not from an isolated incident,&#8221; said Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Wininger. He told Binder that the child&#8217;s body was found burned so substantially &#8220;it was difficult to identify as a person.&#8221; Bennett is believed to be the last person to see Carnel alive.

Wininger said Jaimee Chamberlain &#8220;has described assaults at the hands of Anthony Chamberlain.&#8221; Winginger said a Saginaw Tribal Police Report quoted a witness as seeing Bennett assault Jaimee Chamberlain and threatening to kill her if she left him.

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...t-denied-bail-in-carnel-case&pager=full_story
 
  • #528
Here is a link to abuse by AB.

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...15/anthony-bennett-denied-bail-in-carnel-case

Wininger said Jaimee Chamberlain &#8220;has described assaults at the hands of Anthony Chamberlain.&#8221; Winginger said a Saginaw Tribal Police Report quoted a witness as seeing Bennett assault Jaimee Chamberlain and threatening to kill her if she left him

And before comments are made about Jaimee recanting; we have a thread here on WS where a woman has burn marks on her body yet is stating that her husband didn't do them. He is in jail and so is AB.


BCBM

What is most important in the above statement from LE is there is an independent witness to AB abusing Jaimee. Hopefully this witness will be testifying in court.
 
  • #529
BCBM

What is most important here is there is an independent witness to AB abusing Jaimee. Hopefully this witness will be testifying in court.

No.

What is most important here is CARNEL.

Move on. Now.
 
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Is this the same thing as bath salts?

No. 'Spice' is fake marijuana. It is pot without the THC. It is like hemp, a plant that is grown but it has the THC taken out, so it is legal and cannot be found if you take a drug test. except now it is being made illegal in many states because it makes you go nuts.
 
  • #532
I knew, and my mother knew, from the time I was seven that my father might kill all of us one night in a violent rage. It's ridiculous that some people think that would have made her culpable just because she never told anyone of her fear.



No it is not ridiculous at all.

Fear is not an excuse....it is merely an explanation. JC had resources she chose not to use. That is entirely her fault.

I say this from a place of knowledge and experience. My mother was abusive, and I believe it was wrong of my father to allow it to continue. Did he love me? Yes he did, but he lacked the courage to admit that his wife was abusing his children, and he did not take us out of that environment. I was her favorite target, and I got the worst of it. My mother also abused my Dad, and I do think he was afraid of what she might do in one of her rages.
But I do not let my Dad off the hook. He never should have allowed us to grow up in such fear,pain and chaos. He does share some of the responsibility. I loved him, and I miss him now that he's gone, but I am honest enough to admit that he was not really a good parent because he did not take action on our behalf. He witnessed our abuse, did nothing to remove us from a dangerous environment, and did not leave my mother. He should have taken us away, and raised us on his own.
All parents have a duty to protect their children from harm. All parents...even JC. Sometimes that might take courage and selflessness. There are plenty of parents who manage to protect their children, especially now that there are avenues to take for getting help. We just don't hear about those parents because their children are still living.

I have never,ever abused my children, even though I was raised in an abusive home. I deliberately chose a different way, so it is possible to stop the cycle. Nor would I allow anyone else to harm even a hair on their precious heads. I would die trying to protect them if that's what it took. If I had ever found myself in JC's position, AB would be dead.

After my divorce, I raised my children alone, and no man ever moved into my home. No man even met my children. No man would ever have been allowed to abuse my children. Not ever. It is a choice to put your children's needs before your own until they are grown. Many single mothers make that choice every day.

If we allow a culture of helplessness and irresponsibility,and poor decisions with no consequences,then that is what we will have. No one to hold liable for anything. What happened to teaching people to overcome things in their lives, and to move forward? Many people have bad childhoods, and become good,responsible parents despite their backgrounds.

Victimhood seems to be a very popular lifestyle choice these days. The problem with that choice is that it leaves too much damage in it's wake, and innocent people are affected. It spreads like a disease.

No one is empowered by excuses.
 
  • #533
Thanks is not enough EllaMae, that was a most excellent, well thought out, well written post.
 
  • #534
Let's not forget that Carnel was brought into this home recently. If JC was being abused, she did not even have to "save" her son from it, she could have just left him where he was..safe where he was, with her Mom... She chose to bring him into this situation, and she chose to defend ABs actions when asked by Nancy Grace. I don't see this anything like a situation where a mother is mentally beaten into accepting the abuse and not knowing how to change things. She is the one who chose change.. She chose to change a safe childhood into an abusive one for her son if you ask me.
 
  • #535
Memorial service set for boy found burned, buried

Published On: Jul 15 2012 04:32:27 AM EDT

CHIPPEWA TOWNSHIP, Mich. -
The family of a 4-year-old Michigan boy whose burned remains were found buried at his house plans to hold a memorial service for him...

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...ied/-/1719418/15521940/-/6nm4ifz/-/index.html


July 15, 2012 at 11:47 am

Memorial service set for boy found burned, buried
By Associated Press

Chippewa Township, Mich.&#8212; The family of a 4-year-old Michigan boy whose burned remains were found buried at his house plans to hold a memorial service for him...

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120715/METRO/207150320#ixzz20i4Ilq6A
 
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1,325 rocks, called Carnelian stones, were purchased by friends of Carnel Chamberlain&#8217;s family, and will be tied to pins and handed out by the dozens at his memorial service Sunday.
I think these are such a beautiful stone for such a beautiful little boy,&#8221; said Frances Mena, 31, one of the volunteers to spend Friday and Saturday putting the memorial healing pins together. Carnelian stones are said to be useful for overcoming abuse of any kind. They help in trusting yourself and your perceptions, and overcome negative conditioning.

Full article at link:

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...e-for-memorial-service-for-carnel-chamberlain

What a beautiful way to honor a beautiful little boy. I find myself wondering if the choice of the name Carnel had anything to do with Carnelian stones. Reading about these stones kind of warmed my heart. Thanks to the volunteers working so hard to pass them out at the memorial. I will forever relate Carnelian stones with this precious child gone too soon.
 
  • #538
I just got back from the memorial service. It was so so lovely, I wish all of you could have experienced it too, RIP sweet baby boy.
 
  • #539
I snipped your post for space, but:

I have never,ever abused my children, even though I was raised in an abusive home. I deliberately chose a different way, so it is possible to stop the cycle. Nor would I allow anyone else to harm even a hair on their precious heads. I would die trying to protect them if that's what it took. If I had ever found myself in JC's position, AB would be dead.

After my divorce, I raised my children alone, and no man ever moved into my home. No man even met my children. No man would ever have been allowed to abuse my children. Not ever. It is a choice to put your children's needs before your own until they are grown. Many single mothers make that choice every day.

Victimhood seems to be a very popular lifestyle choice these days. The problem with that choice is that it leaves too much damage in it's wake, and innocent people are affected. It spreads like a disease.

No one is empowered by excuses.

A mere Thanks is not enough for your post, EllaMae. I was sexually abused by my stepfather from age 10 to age 14 and my wonderful mother turned her eye. Even when it was over and I told her about it (which took all the guts I had), she ignored me. I did not know why until Age 19, when she admitted to me that she had not believed me. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The anger and discourse between me and my mother exists to this day, even though I am almost 50 years old!

I too get really, really tired of hearing of mother's putting their own romantic lives (I CAN"T LIVE WITHOUT A MAN WAAAAA!) before their children's welfare.

I have been divorced 4 years and same as you, have not dated or had any man around my children. I will not. Being their mother is way more important than my love life.

JC is not immune to parental responsibility just because she is young and was abused. SORRY, not buying it! :mad::mad:

JC bears alot of culpability in what happened to her son and she will have to live with it. I hope a boyfriend and some sex were worth it!
 
  • #540
“Today is about celebrating Carnel’s life,” he said. “This has gone national and it has touched hundreds of thousands of hearts.”

Carnel loved Dragonball Z, Mario video games and staring at the moon looking for his deceased Grandpa Tommy.

Williams said one of her favorite things about her cousin was the way he would always ask, “how did you sleep?” rather than saying, “good morning,” when he woke up every day.

Following Williams’ speech, Saginaw Chippewa Tribal Elders performed Amazing Grace with an acoustic guitar.

Punkin Shananaquet, a member of the Gun Lake Tribe, spoke about how when a person is first born, their spirit is placed in the eastern direction and made to slowly move to the west.

Following Shananaquet’s speech, a song was performed in the native language, and guests were asked to stand facing east in representation of Carnel’s spirit.

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...lain-public-memorial-service&pager=full_story



Fly High Sweet Carnel ~
 

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