GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #1

[FindHG]

I think this is a brilliant idea. If we could "crowd source" this evidence review, think of what could be turned up -- if only the assurance that it's not helpful (at least we would to have to wonder, and the video not showing anything could be a different kind of evidence in itself.)

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons not to allow non-LE people to look at things like this, but if you think about it like trying to save someone rather than save a possible future conviction, I think it puts the benefits into sharper relief.

Until she's found, I'm sure LE will make her being found a priority. The idea that a privacy of a bunch of party goers would even cross anyone's mind when some of these hundreds of people some may know more and yet that information can't be usefully accessed, it's just sad and frustrating. Somebody is not doing everything they can for the wrong reasons if every frame available from the Halloween and June is not being checked frame by frame. Time will tell who and why it is this way, but I don't think it is LE holding back.

 

[FindHG]

HG, you have said this severl times but I have never seen that she called specifically to ask for a ride. Could you give me a link to something that confirms that? thanks

If I remember correctly, the security videos taken at the party were focused on the band, not the guests. That could be why there has been no further info on them. I am pretty sure LE has copies, though not absolutely positive. Just trying to remember what I have read from the beginning.

Not at all, no link. Very little information of the exact texts, there are posts upthread from early one about the tenor of the textsm I think, but from the LE press conference timeline. She reached out to a friend who had already left or another one who lived nearby, not clear, for a ride. That person showed up. Chelsea never called them back to call off a ride if she had asked for one. If the person who showed up to give her a ride, showed up, which they did, according to the PC, then she was asked for a ride, is what may be a safe assumption.

 

[Spellbound]

I can't imagine why it is taking this long for LE to obtain those videos "of the bands". This is the latest update (Nov. 4) that I was able to find:


http://www.wxyz.com/news/monroe-cou...s-conference-is-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck
Police say video was also recorded at the party where Chelsea disappeared. Six videographers were present at the party. They have obtained the footage from one of them and are working with the other five to get the video.

 

[Spellbound]

Not at all, no link. Very little information of the exact texts, there are posts upthread from early one about the tenor of the textsm I think, but from the LE press conference timeline. She reached out to a friend who had already left or another one who lived nearby, not clear, for a ride. That person showed up. Chelsea never called them back to call off a ride if she had asked for one. If the person who showed up to give her a ride, showed up, which they did, according to the PC, then she was asked for a ride, is what may be a safe assumption.

Thanks. You could be right and I misunderstood. I have listened/watched the PC several times and made a timeline of Chelsea's activities and calls and did not pick up on that. My understanding is she sent a friend to get her phone, when that friend returned to give it to her, Chelsea could not be found (somewhere around 1 or 1:30 am). I will try to listen again later tonight.

You are are trying very hard to work through this, HG. every effort is appreciated.

 

[FindHG]

Not at all, no link. Very little information of the exact texts, there are posts upthread from early one about the tenor of the textsm I think, but from the LE press conference timeline. She reached out to a friend who had already left or another one who lived nearby, not clear, for a ride. That person showed up. Chelsea never called them back to call off a ride if she had asked for one. If the person who showed up to give her a ride, showed up, which they did, according to the PC, then she was asked for a ride, is what may be a safe assumption.

The video footage in the strange video, I don't really understand the progeny of, was it made for the PC or the one they originally circulated after the concert? Either way, they must have hours of footage, from both events that they should share, plus any pictures the photographer from the June event may have taken, as she appears in the June event. Then who was a photographer recording the event this time, a groupie, or hired, whatever she was? If I were the host, I'd give every single frame I owned to LE (and WS). I would question any hesitation, not that I know whether he has shown that or not. He seems cooperative as he appears in the media, but the first thing I would've done was give LE or the family the security cam footage or made it very easy for people to access so they could help find Chelsea Bruck.

Why would he sit on that info until days after the event and then tell a Fox reporter, as posted below. It's nice for him to try to raise awareness, but I would want to hear some confirmation that he's made every efforts to get all the security cam footage and all the material from that lady photographers visual's to LE and the family, first thing. He's asking everybody else for their stuff, I hope he handed over all that he controls himself, and photographer/s he had working the Halloween party, too. I understand that there were fights that broke out that night, lots of partying which may leave him vulnerable to charges later, but there is a girl missing, and that's all that matters. The host cannot change what happened, and if he ever wants to do this again, have parties to that showcase his band, he'd need the good will of the community, it would seem.

 

[FindHG]

Thanks. You could be right and I misunderstood. I have listened/watched the PC several times and made a timeline of Chelsea's activities and calls and did not pick up on that. My understanding is she sent a friend to get her phone, when that friend returned to give it to her, Chelsea could not be found (somewhere around 1 or 1:30 am). I will try to listen again later tonight.

You are are trying very hard to work through this, HG. every effort is appreciated.

yep. I'll stop when they find her. Let me know if there is already a timeline, beside the one up thread that summarizes the press conference on all the important points. Thanks.

 

[Spellbound]

I don't think there is an actual timeline anywhere. Just the one up-thread that I transcribed from the PC.

:hug: :tyou:

 

[Kilen]

Sorry for the short reply earlier, I wanted to reply to the question about the party store as quickly as possible. Thank you all for the warm welcome, we are all doing the best we can to bring Chelsea home.

The more I think about Chelsea's disappearance and the subsequent investigation into it the more questions I seem to have, it's a highly frustrating situation :thinking: .


It has been recommended that we do not repost the modified sketch to the facebook page at this time, they said they may revisit the idea in the next several days though :gaah: . I'm getting increasingly concerned because the volume of activity on the facebook page is going way down and I feel like a lot of people are already moving on/forgetting, I also feel like the more time we go without any significant update/leads in the case the less likely it is to ever get solved.

 

[Spellbound]

How do you have that big a party with no LE awareness. Is that normal?

You would think it is not normal, but supposedly those parties have been happening for 10 years, and this is the first I ever heard of them. But I don't follow that type of music, so would have no reason to pay attention if I had even seen an advertisement anywhere.

 

[Claudette]

I wonder if he "offered" to wait with her in the parking lot for her friend so she was "safe", and then offered to let her wait in his car where it was warm.

 

[FindHG]

I don't think there is an actual timeline anywhere. Just the one up-thread that I transcribed from the PC.

:hug: :tyou:

Works for me . Thank you.

 

[FindHG]

I wonder if he "offered" to wait with her in the parking lot for her friend so she was "safe", and then offered to let her wait in his car where it was warm.

Something like that, I would imagine, if the guy in the sketch exists, there's going to be confirmation he was there with her. LE seems pretty confident about the witness, and it's a very distinct sketch. Even a few glimpses of him made onto any of the video or picture frames from that night or previous parties, that would be a huge break, I would think, and hope.

 

[FindHG]

I'm T Lee Bruck, Chelsea's sister-in-law. I'm not currently in or from Michigan and since we have a small child we don't want to unnecessarily alarm about the disappearance of her aunt we decided I should stay home and take care of stuff online. I've been watching this site, news sites, social media etc anything and everything that could potentially generate any form of insight as to what may have happened to Chelsea. My main role is I moderate the facebook page. Any time something goes missing from the facebook page it's been screencapped and most of it gets forwarded to the police (pertinent details/potential leads yes! vague psychic guesses that Chelsea could be near water/in a barn etc not so much :facepalm: ).

Last night, I asked an artist friend of mine to see if she could remove the glasses in the sketch as a lot of people had made that suggestion. She removed the glasses and went back and got rid of the hipster hair. A lot of people had suggested it and our thought was that anything that could potentially help identify the guy in the sketch who is not a suspect but a person of interest is good, the rest of the family approved it so we posted it on facebook. For a while everything was fine and then a cop said bad idea, we shouldn't have posted it at all or at least asked permission first. We did not misrepresent the sketch as something new from the police we were pretty clear on my friend edited the sketch with photoshop to give people an idea what he could look like without glasses. It has been removed pending approval from the sheriff's department, I have not heard anything back from them it was generating lots of activity and tips though so I hope they do approve it going back up.

Hello, Ma'am. Certainly, don't lose hope. Good people won't give up, more answers will come, as you seem to have the support of many of them. Chelsea Bruck could be any of our own children or sister. Glasses or not, please let the mods know your wishes with the posts here. As a family friendly site, all this is to help you. My heart goes out to your family. I'm in awe of how much you all have done and how well. The tips will come. I hope you will share what you see fit however you think it would best help. Not everybody his age looks like the guy in the sketch. He may be spotted in more of those videos from the hosts previous party or this one even. Has there been progress with that? Don't feel compelled to answer. As you wish.

I'm just catching up, so thank you very very much for posting your thoughts. You and all of Chelsea Bruck's family, friends, and community are in mine. May she be found, alive and soon.

 

[goldenbear]

IMO I think cb would have felt comfortable with someone she had met at the restaurant A CUSTOMER. This was misinterpreted earlier as a worker.

 

[cluciano63]

The biggest problem, Imo, is if the sketch shows a man in dress-up or if that is his usual look. Also, jmo, all young men with that weird kind of hipster facial hair kind of look the same to me...is there a character from a show or movie with that look that might be a popular costume? If so, a partygoer might recall that easier, jmo.

 

[FindHG]

The biggest problem, Imo, is if the sketch shows a man in dress-up or if that is his usual look. Also, jmo, all young men with that weird kind of hipster facial hair kind of look the same to me...is there a character from a show or movie with that look that might be a popular costume? If so, a partygoer might recall that easier, jmo.

Yes, it would. I recall Harry Potter being suggested, the other thing I recall was that he was wearing a black hooded sweat shirt, according to the witness who gave the sketches description. It would be good to know what kind of shoes he wore, or any specifics about his pants, either. Because of all the costumes, it may be easier to spot him, in videos or pictures, if it was known. I'm sure if it was known, LE would've shared it at the PC.

 

[charminglane]

What if the missing guy shaved off a hipster beard before the party?
I believe the sketch should include a beard version, too. It has been 2 weeks and can grow back a tad.

 

[cluciano63]

What if the missing guy shaved off a hipster beard before the party?
I believe the sketch should include a beard version, too. It has been 2 weeks and can grow back a tad.

Or it was stick-on facial hair? Halloween really makes this so much more difficult.

 

[FindHG]

Or it was stick-on facial hair? Halloween really makes this so much more difficult.

The thing that stands out from the facial hair, is the thin mustache part, so light hair growth on the lip. He has high cheek bones, chiseled cheeks, very square jaw, but not so big it sticks out, stern thin mouth, thin upper lip, and very remarkable intense eyes that show as such even through glasses. His hair doesn't seem matted down, like it's been covered in a costume, but then it could be a wig, too. So having the hair off his face in that sketch, helps maybe.

 

[Snoopster]

Or it was stick-on facial hair? Halloween really makes this so much more difficult.

My gut feeling is that if someone was going to bother to stick on some facial hair it would likely be more substantial. It would be difficult to stick on some light, straggly growth.