GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

[traacker13]

Based on all the descriptions I've read of Chelsea, I don't see her leaving with someone who wasn't, at least, a familiar face. I think the Perp, or Perp(s) were band regulars.
This is what my brand of logic tells me. However, as my signature qualifier states, it could all be hogwash. None the less, injured or not, I don't necessarily see this gal leaving with an unknown.

I'm curious. Do we know if HB and Chelsea knew each other at all? Even as acquaintances? I find the idea of HB having her blood on his shirt from a bloody nose a little outlandish if they were unknown to each other IMO. In fact, I'd be pretty grossed out if I was close enough to someone that I didn't know and got their blood on me. I am wondering how this would even be explained away. I wonder if LE examined the blood splatter to determine if the story he gave matched the evidence. Like, was the blood wiped on him? Was it splattered on him? What distance did it land on him from? All of this could be pretty telling IMO

 

[monster12]

Has anyone sleuthed KAC, the woman from Toledo who lied to police, telling them that her boyfriend confessed to having murdered Chelsea? If there's a little bit of truth in every lie, this could be something to consider, as well.

I found county arrest records for her for this arrest and others. Didn't move my searches to other areas of the internet yet but now I'm interested. Everyone we mention or seem to find has a connection in some way .... Being as Toledo and Monroe are not that far apart, I could see a band connection of some sort at the very least. Whether the supposed bf was in one, knows someone in one, or knows this group ....? Every time I read a new post here, it sends my brain in 500 directions!!


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[dmc43613]

Reading my mind BDE!! I started reviewing last night, nothing to report yet.

Social media seems either locked Down or out dated. Found at least 3 crime reports, one for domestic disturbance and the false police report in this case. Also found a reported theft of home electronics within the last year.

Cannot seem to find anything with the Ex BF's name.

 

[monster12]

She said the ex was at the party so hopefully police have looked into verifying that and questioning him. I did find a hb on MySpace. Looks like a younger version of him... But couldn't see much else on my phone.


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[traacker13]

IMO I don't think it should be ruled out that she left with an acquaintance. Even given her background. The reason I say this is that I believe there were multiple factors working against her that night. 1) She had been drinking 2) She had lost track of the friends that she came with and did not have a cell phone to get a hold of them 3) She was injured. I think all of these combined would lead anyone to possibly make a decision they otherwise wouldn't under normal circumstances. I feel like if Chelsea possibly knew the person she left with through others that she trusted, that the decision at the time would've been easier for her to make because of all the unfortunate circumstances of the night.

 

[dmc43613]

Social media seems either locked Down or out dated. Found at least 3 crime reports, one for domestic disturbance and the false police report in this case. Also found a reported theft of home electronics within the last year.

Cannot seem to find anything with the Ex BF's name.

The best I can come up with is that KAC has ties primarily to West Toledo (Whitmer HS). From earlier posts from the Halloween Event there were several people from Whitmer at this party. I could not find a FR, Newport, Maybee, or Monroe connection.

That's not to say there isn't one, just I do not find anything that would suggest it.

 

[monster12]

I first thought KAC on fb was her but once I found the arrest records which have a pic of her and mention the Monroe co transfer....the pics most definitely do not match up. If you search just KC a Toledo one will come up but no recent posts since 2013.


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[dmc43613]

I first thought KAC on fb was her but once I found the arrest records which have a pic of her and mention the Monroe co transfer....the pics most definitely do not match up. If you search just KC a Toledo one will come up but no recent posts since 2013.


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Definitely 2 different people. Given prior arrests, it doesn't surprise me of the vindictive nature towards an ex BF. I don't doubt he was at the party, but this seems more like a domestic dispute to me IMO
based solely on what is available.

 

[traacker13]

Definitely 2 different people. Given prior arrests, it doesn't surprise me of the vindictive nature towards an ex BF. I don't doubt he was at the party, but this seems more like a domestic dispute to me IMO
based solely on what is available.

Totally agree with you, dmc

 

[rosesfromangels]

And now, just to keep our heads spinning, I want to figure out whether HB and his posse have any ties to the POI in the Niswender case.

 

[traacker13]

After reading his place of business my heart sank. Looking at the location and the type of work leads my mind to think of way too many upsetting thoughts

 

[rosesfromangels]

After reading his place of business my heart sank. Looking at the location and the type of work leads my mind to think of way too many upsetting thoughts

Whose, and what?
I'm wondering if HB or posse did any part time cleaning work, studied martial arts. That's where my mind is going.

 

[traacker13]

Whose, and what?
I'm wondering if HB or posse did any part time cleaning work, studied martial arts. That's where my mind is going.

Sorry, I should have put his initials in there. HB's. If you go to his FB page, you can see his profile and his work is listed. It's funny that you put cleaning because it's listed as an industrial cleaning company!

 

[black_squirrel]

HB's friend LKZ (who looks like the sketch imo) posts on instagram pictures and video of drug use (various sorts of cannabis). He also
posts pictures of him holding money (like $200 or so). I wonder if he is more than just a habital user (like most people I looked at in relation to this case).
I don't know if he was at the party. He seems more into rap than into death metal (but with equally questionable lyrics). Perhaps he was at the party
for "business", and this might explain why he would not come forward if he is indeed the guy in the sketch.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

I think they may have.

I did not but will do it now. I had assumed because the news reported from his mothers at the trailer park that LE already knwe the connection. I guess I should also NEVER ASSUME!

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

So.. a nose bleed? THAT"S how her blood got on hero's shirt? Really?

Hm.

Noses bleed a LOT if they bleed, they're real gushers. Did anyone else see her gushing blood from her nostril(s)? How did he say she got injured? People who fall forward put their hands down, they don't fall on their nose. It wasn't particularly a dry night. She didn't do drugs that we're aware of. Nobody says they punched her in the face or saw anyone else do so.

How did this supposed nose bleed occur, then? Anyone know what he said about it? Just curious because I think theyr'e about to find her, especially if they search the golf course areas IMO (gut only). (and which I don't know if they are but I saw mention of the idea a page or two back. But I'm on info overload for now, so forgive me if I've misspoken.)

edited to add: if it was her nose that was bleeding, either she got hit and some blood flung outward and hit his shirt, or else she was bleeding and he took off his shirt and gave it to her to stop the blood but then took it back afterwards, or else he hugged her right up against his chest. How else does fluid under gravity's force go from one's nose to someone else's shirt who is merely standing nearby?

What did he have to say about how this happened?

It was said she walked into a pole at the party and got a bloody nose.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

I think what Roses is saying is that there are NO posts around the time of the party and their Pages jump from early October until December or the first of the year.

You cannot tell if anything was deleted, that I can tell.

Maybe *something else* was keeping them busy or had them too nervous to be posting anything on their FB pages. Maybe it's not that anything was removed but instead posted as *private* or There wasn't anything posted during that time while they waited to see how things would go.

 

[SmartSassyBBW]

I don't know that us was ever confirmed with anyone at the party that Chelsea ran into a pool. She supposedly spoke with friends on the phone who she told. We have speculated that the pic of her with a group at the party shows a man with blood on his face but she looked fine. Could she have been talking about him on the phone? Can the family let us know if the blood on "Hero's?" Shirt was actually Chelsea's. Was there any proof that she hit her nose on a pole and injured herself?

 

[monster12]

I thought there was a lot of confusion on whether or not she really had a bleeding nose or face. I remember some saying she hit her nose and seemed very upset about it. Then others posted saying she was fine and they never saw that. And since nobody claims to have seen her late at night or leaving, I guess we'll never know. She could have been talking about that guys face, her own, or someone could have just made that story up to go along with the bloody shirt that eventually was let out....


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[dmc43613]

Based upon earlier posts and MSM reports, Chelsea did stumble into a pole, stake, or tree or something. There were reports she may have broken her nose, this happened after the photo in her Missing fliers, and after she got separated from her friends.

There was a girl (a high school acquaintance) who went to LE and reported that she spoke to Chelsea shortly after she hurt herself.