GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

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  • #541
I had seen a brief news clip where the mother of the guy who was charged with making a false report was standing in her door way Talking. (I'm pretty sure it was said it was his mother.) So, I'm gathering he still lives at home with her from the way she talks about her conversations with him.

Thanks, Criminal Justice mom, that really seemed helpful. I looked up the clip and the mom has a different last name. Watch the video, 1 minute in!
http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck
Using this, I found the address. And guess what ... **insert dramatic music here** ... he lives IN THE TRAILER PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE WHERE THE CLOTHING WAS FOUND. (Sorry for being overly dramatic, but I was quite in disbelief when I "mapquested" the address.) Maybe a few disclaimers are in place. The address I found was his mother's, but it seems likely that he lives with his mother. Also, this was the address 8 years ago. They possibly could have moved since. We should verify this further.
 
  • #542
Thanks, Criminal Justice mom, that really seemed helpful. I looked up the clip and the mom has a different last name. Watch the video, 1 minute in!
http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck
Using this, I found the address. And guess what ... **insert dramatic music here** ... he lives IN THE TRAILER PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE WHERE THE CLOTHING WAS FOUND. (Sorry for being overly dramatic, but I was quite in disbelief when I "mapquested" the address.) Maybe a few disclaimers are in place. The address I found was his mother's, but it seems likely that he lives with his mother. Also, this was the address 8 years ago. They possibly could have moved since. We should verify this further.

Oh my. Great find. I'll have to look at that. I couldn't find anything. Using Facebook I was able to find his mom and that they lived in Monroe now it seems. They made a post saying they had to move in with family a few years ago. Not saying he did anything but it would bring a little clearness to him throwing out a fake report and then a few months later they find whatever they found. I'll have to look when he was released from jail....I thought he was being held for some time but could be wrong.

***after this latest find, the family said detectives were doin searches, and asked for the public to stay out of their way.
 
  • #543
Thanks, Criminal Justice mom, that really seemed helpful. I looked up the clip and the mom has a different last name. Watch the video, 1 minute in!
http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck
Using this, I found the address. And guess what ... **insert dramatic music here** ... he lives IN THE TRAILER PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE WHERE THE CLOTHING WAS FOUND. (Sorry for being overly dramatic, but I was quite in disbelief when I "mapquested" the address.) Maybe a few disclaimers are in place. The address I found was his mother's, but it seems likely that he lives with his mother. Also, this was the address 8 years ago. They possibly could have moved since. We should verify this further.

Holy smokes!
Even if this was his address 8 years ago, he is certainly familiar with the area. His friends as well, no doubt. When this guy was arrested, we all said, "there is usually a kernel of truth" in all lies. This guy should be examined again, and closely. Definitely worth the investment of time.
 
  • #544
Holy smokes!
Even if this was his address 8 years ago, he is certainly familiar with the area. His friends as well, no doubt. When this guy was arrested, we all said, "there is usually a kernel of truth" in all lies. This guy should be examined again, and closely. Definitely worth the investment of time.

When he RSVP'd the concert for example? Who his friends may be? His pings? Would LE have all that to charge him with perjury? If I read it correctly at the time, he may have heard or saw something and then the part about his wanting to be a hero. So drop the hero part... or the reverse. He's home on an ankle bracelet still? If his life depended on it, why would he not have removed the evidence from someplace that could be traced back to him? I think something other than the reward or being a hero prompted him, could it have been fear, then?
 
  • #545
Interesting find, you all. Could he have given the story as a ruse... hoping to keep focus on "two other guys" so when the search found something near his home he would not become a suspect? Which would imply he is sweating bullets now, if there is any real connection. And highly possible LE is waiting for him to implicate himself.

Just letting my wild thoughts wander, so all JMO.
 
  • #546
Interesting find, you all. Could he have given the story as a ruse... hoping to keep focus on "two other guys" so when the search found something near his home he would not become a suspect? Which would imply he is sweating bullets now, if there is any real connection. And highly possible LE is waiting for him to implicate himself.

Just letting my wild thoughts wander, so all JMO.

RBBM

Or the "two guys" he mentions is an indication of what he may fear, but not exactly it. The fear may have prompted some story that didn't make sense or check out, but the trail to it may be what should be followed? So he may have lied to protect himself because he's involved or knows of those who are but lied about who they are?
 
  • #547
I guess we have to wait for the outcome of the tests on the clothing. It is possible that one of his friends made another "practical joke" by placing the clothing there. In any case, the proximity seems too much of a coincidence.
 
  • #548
I guess we have to wait for the outcome of the tests on the clothing. It is possible that one of his friends made another "practical joke" by placing the clothing there. In any case, the proximity seems too much of a coincidence.

Black_Squirrel,

Do not assume LE knows this address stuff. We would certainly hope the do, but assume nothing. I highly recommend you send this in as a tip.
 
  • #549
Or he could also be one of the two men....?

Yes, do report this find, squirrel. I have a bad feeling there is more of a connection to come out of this.
 
  • #550
Or he could also be one of the two men....?

Yes, do report this find, squirrel. I have a bad feeling there is more of a connection to come out of this.


Black_Squirrel,

Do not assume LE knows this address stuff. We would certainly hope the do, but assume nothing. I highly recommend you send this in as a tip.

ditto

Do you have the number B_S?
 
  • #551
Thanks, Criminal Justice mom, that really seemed helpful. I looked up the clip and the mom has a different last name. Watch the video, 1 minute in!
http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck
Using this, I found the address. And guess what ... **insert dramatic music here** ... he lives IN THE TRAILER PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE WHERE THE CLOTHING WAS FOUND. (Sorry for being overly dramatic, but I was quite in disbelief when I "mapquested" the address.) Maybe a few disclaimers are in place. The address I found was his mother's, but it seems likely that he lives with his mother. Also, this was the address 8 years ago. They possibly could have moved since. We should verify this further.
Holy smoking guns... you win sleuther of the year with that find. I agree that while he may no longer live near, it's familiar. He might not have known evidence was left behind, and didn't want to be seen there so never went back. His hero facade has now placed him squarely in the crossfires.

About my asking if a friend might have turned on her, I agree with you all but felt it should have at least been considered. I'll consider it ruled out. Thanks. And thanks for all of your hard work, you amazing people.
 
  • #552
Thanks, Criminal Justice mom, that really seemed helpful. I looked up the clip and the mom has a different last name. Watch the video, 1 minute in!
http://www.wxyz.com/news/two-charged-with-lying-to-police-in-case-of-missing-chelsea-bruck
Using this, I found the address. And guess what ... **insert dramatic music here** ... he lives IN THE TRAILER PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE WHERE THE CLOTHING WAS FOUND. (Sorry for being overly dramatic, but I was quite in disbelief when I "mapquested" the address.) Maybe a few disclaimers are in place. The address I found was his mother's, but it seems likely that he lives with his mother. Also, this was the address 8 years ago. They possibly could have moved since. We should verify this further.

Am I allowed to ask how you got an address out of that video? Maybe I missed something but I can't figure that part out. :(. Also that is not the name of the woman he calls "mom" on fb. But obviously you never know with that so I will stop speculating. There is just so much going through my mind right now!
 
  • #553
I don't know why I thought that. Maybe because she kept showing it to the vendor and it ended up in someone's trunk? I have no idea. Old brain syndrome.
Suffice it to say if she had of had her phone, this thread may have never existed. I so so so wish that were the case.

I thought Chelsea was seen (video & stills) showing her phone to others at the June music bash, not the one in October. :waitasec: My best recollection is that Chelsea did not have her phone with her at the Halloween party but had left it with her change of clothing in the friend's car with whom she rode to the party. Chelsea's cell phone was returned to her family, and I'm sure LE has examined it for photos and every call Chelsea made/received/texted.

I've contemplated a list of things I'd like to know about the investigation (or at trial) and that cell phone is very near the top of the short list.
 
  • #554
You could very well be right on the cell phone BDE, and most likely are. I thought she kept showing the phone to the vendor guy, but could be very well wrong.

Regarding the "hero". Regardless of our ability to determine his Mom, the address, etc....Black Squirrel, call it in! Let LE sort it out. Sounds like enough of a lead to get my heart racing.

As always, just opinion from yours truly, the armchair amateur.
 
  • #555
roses, I really enjoy seeing your "armchair amateur" nic. I do think BDE is right about the phone at the summer party. I don't think Chelsea ever carried it at the Halloween bash, it was left in the car.

From what I gather, HB may have moved from Flat Rock to Carleton, but I cannot be certain. Even so, if he ever lived in the trailer park, I would bet that he knows that field across the road quite well....
 
  • #556
FindHG will know where to locate assorted videos of Chelsea at the June party ;)
 
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Am I allowed to ask how you got an address out of that video? Maybe I missed something but I can't figure that part out. :(. Also that is not the name of the woman he calls "mom" on fb. But obviously you never know with that so I will stop speculating. There is just so much going through my mind right now!

From the video, around 1:00 into it, you can see a caption with the name of the mom being interviewed. Then I did a search with that name and "Flat Rock, MI".
I was lucky and found a site that has pictures of peoples faces (*hint*), together with their addresses and other information. The picture that was with the address was without question the same person that was being interviewed.

It is practically certain that LE already knows the address. Certainly the have the address of the person arrested, and they probably also have been to his home. Moreover, the newsreporters have also been to his home so they know this as well.

[speculation]
I think HB is a suspect and LE is gathering evidence. Perhaps someone pointed HB out as a person that spoke to Chelsea at the party. This could have been the guy in the sketch (do we really know if he hasn't come forward yet?). Then, as police interviewed him, he came up with the fabricated story. Police found out that he is lying, but they have no proof yet that he has anything to do with her disappearance. So they charge him with lying to police, because that is what they can prove at this point. This is all speculation on my part.
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  • #559
I thought Chelsea was seen (video & stills) showing her phone to others at the June music bash, not the one in October. :waitasec: My best recollection is that Chelsea did not have her phone with her at the Halloween party but had left it with her change of clothing in the friend's car with whom she rode to the party. Chelsea's cell phone was returned to her family, and I'm sure LE has examined it for photos and every call Chelsea made/received/texted.

I've contemplated a list of things I'd like to know about the investigation (or at trial) and that cell phone is very near the top of the short list.

Yes, BDE, no idea when right now, but I went through it frame by frame, the June bash, and basically one particular security guard starts out as they're watching the fire dancer just standing a couple of people away from Chelsea, then next you see both of them talking, focused on her phone, not a camera or anything, then you see her again in some shots by the stage, then again in some very fast shots in an area that people seem to be hanging out near the stage, not the same as the bar area. The oddest shot if IIRC, was toward the end, the camera is focused on Chelsea, there's a guy right to right of the lens, then it zooms in a Chelsea and the same security guard walking up to her, again looking at her phone. Many of the same people are near the stage during the Oct bash.

I have many more caps of them on the download but had to be careful on what to post on WS. Anyway, this same security guard, you'll see in the emu kids video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u8j0ZkVLX8 watching the emu kids play while PAP players spill their drinks watching. O/T, but those young kids out played PAP by miles, in a battle of bands kind of way, that's why BM probably had them booked so early, not to steal the show maybe. I loved the look on the PAP players faces during their set, priceless.:cow:

At BM's bash where Chelsea went missing, the same guy seems to be there from early in the day in the emu video, and then again across from where Chelsea is standing against the white banner at the concert, stage right, and he is stage left, right next to the stage, taking pics, in the crowd, there. I was left convinced after days of watching it she was marked during the June concert. Somewhere back there on the thread, I think before Thanksgiving, are all the detailed observations. LE has all the uncut versions of these videos from early on. So in the end, it wasn't Chelsea's taste in music, as it seemed more eclectic than PAP, she liked the band, the people in it, I think. I wouldn't say the people associated with so much at all from my observations of her from the videos and various accounts of her time at the bash, before she went missing.





Screen caps from here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD7SHtNQV4eu8KdXfkrreVw
 
  • #560
roses, I really enjoy seeing your "armchair amateur" nic. I do think BDE is right about the phone at the summer party. I don't think Chelsea ever carried it at the Halloween bash, it was left in the car.

From what I gather, HB may have moved from Flat Rock to Carleton, but I cannot be certain. Even so, if he ever lived in the trailer park, I would bet that he knows that field across the road quite well....

Now I really have the heebie jeebies. I have been communicating with a tracker/dog handler who has been volunteering and searching, and based on a variety of my amateur calculations and speculations, suggested they check an area that runs parallel to the Carlton Glenn golf course, across the Hwy 275. dmc and I have discussed this as well. There are three marshy bodies of water right along Hwy 275 in that area. The fact there is the flatrock and Carleton connection to this guy, really made me gasp. This could all be my fanciful imagination working overtime, but who the heck knows.
 
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