GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #4

[justnosey]

Wondering & also chiving in...was the property locked due to (bow) hunting grounds?

:dunno:

:thinking:

Yes according to LE at the press release. A member of the press asked that question specifically (wonder if they are following Web Sleuths! ) LE said that the land owner had given permission for bow hunting to a friend, non-specified.

 

[FindHG]

Wondering...was the property locked due to (bow) hunting grounds?

:dunno:

:thinking:

Sheriff Malone mentions that the property had a chain across the front access from the road but was just woods, not fenced and wooded toward the back. From here

 

[monster12]

No.... Just thought I'd chive in. From what I gathered, there is another way in there, and this was one of the local party spots for the suspect(s). There by the tracks. I think the Sheriff called it a parking spot, but I do need to see the news reel again. I was working when I watched it so I feel I did miss some stuff.

You can correct me if I'm wrong on this.

If I recall, he said the front part was gates and wouldn't have access unless it was unlocked and opened. He then said the back area was heavily wooded and wouldn't be accessible by vehicle either....


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[Ibiz]

Wondering & also chiving in...was the property locked due to (bow) hunting grounds?

:dunno:

:thinking:

Could be, but usually when someone buys a piece of property like that; once they make their driveway / road, they run a gate or chain across it to keep people out. Also, put no trespassing signs up to let people know that someone owns and is watching the property. It could have been vacant for sometime.

 

[Ibiz]

Then he said you have to come in by the train tracks or through. I don't remember exactly how he worded it.

The drive you guys are talking about was just recently cut.

I might be wrong thow

 

[psyquestor]

There was mention of a golf course.
Is it located near the train tracks?
A golf cart could easily be stolen/taken to move a body along the tracks.

it would have already been off season when she went missing.

 

[Spellbound]

Also, did anyone else catch the tidbit in the press release about the property being "locked up". Is it fenced or gated? LE said that the property size is 13 acres. I am guessing they meant that whatever cleared road to get back there was locked with a gate. Perp or perps would have to have carried or dragged Chelsea to the location she was found. No?

The gate across the newly installed "road" may not have been there when this happened.

My first guess, is that there are multiple people involved (not necessarily there when "it" happened, but have knowledge/a hand in covering something up) and they were people or a person she was acquainted with and semi-comfortable to leave with.

However, I'm not discounting the possibility that this was a person she didn't really know and/or had maybe literally just met the night. I see it many times, people out at bars or party's, they meet somebody throughout the course of the night, strike up friendly, casual conversation with, think they are a nice person, etc. Through a series of random and innocent events, they get separated from friends, lose/forget a phone somehow and at the end of the night, you're tired, a bit buzzed/drunk possibly, maybe a bit annoyed and angry that you lost your ride or your ride forgot/left without you. At that point, you just WANT to go home and leave. So you bump into "random nice guy" again or he sees you're by yourself and he offers or you ask for ride home, thinking nothing bad will happen, because you're being seen by a bunch of people. Unfortunately, that's where things take a turn for the worse asit did with Chelsea.

Just something that should still be considered.

I think in regards to the costume being found separately from the body, it could be something as simple as the guy(s) forgot they had it with them or in their car after the fact and on the way home or where ever, they stopped off at secluded enough location and just drop it off there and they continue on their way thinking there gotten out of their crime.

My thoughts are very similar to what you have described!

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw LE carrying a large HEAVY bag-it's either a rock or rocks or even possibly a piece of construction equipment? I am thinking the perp used whatever was around him. I feel strongly that a sexual assault occurred where the clothes were found (non-blood evidence), and that the murder occurred in the field as LE has indicated. I have no basis for thinking this started as a sexual assault, but just a gut feeling.

It is also possible the perp piled rocks on the body that got moved during this excavating/construction. If that is the case, without this construction we may not have found her. Scary thought.

No.... Just thought I'd chive in. From what I gathered, there is another way in there, and this was one of the local party spots for the suspect(s). There by the tracks. I think the Sheriff called it a parking spot, but I do need to see the news reel again. I was working when I watched it so I feel I did miss some stuff.

You can correct me if I'm wrong on this.

I had not heard this. Another way in? A local party spot? From photos taken from this week's news stories, I do see a few possible pull offs that may allow somewhat of an access to the area without being noticed by residents.

 

[FindHG]

Monroe News Gallery


Family and friends react to Chelsea Bruck discovery
Camille Amiri reports Taking Act WXYZ-TV Detroit, Channel 7 today

Community members and friends react

"May God, get them."

[...]

"And I miss that Chelsea Bruck, and I thought about her every day."




Body ID’d, Chelsea Bruck’s death considered a homicide
Mike Martindale, The Detroit News , Apr 26, 15, 1:06 pm edt


Hometown mourns loss of Chelsea Bruck, wants justice
By Elisha Anderson, Detroit Free Press, Apr 26 '15, 7:28 pm edt,

Community members and friends react

"Chelsea has become a part of everybody in the community. It breaks my heart that she's gone."

[...]

"It's been really difficult," [...] "Everyone is just torn."

 

[dmc43613]

Then he said you have to come in by the train tracks or through. I don't remember exactly how he worded it.

The drive you guys are talking about was just recently cut.

I might be wrong thow

Yes, during PC he seemed to speak with a good deal of certainty that the are COULD be accessed by RR tracks and that's why he said it was someone who knows these TRACKS well. I'll see if I can find it in the PC video again.

 

[FindHG]

Yes, during PC he seemed to speak with a good deal of certainty that the are COULD be accessed by RR tracks and that's why he said it was someone who knows these TRACKS well. I'll see if I can find it in the PC video again.

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[MIMOMMY]

I thought I would drop my two cents worth here as well. JT 'S cleaning company was contracted to do work for a property that I managed. I can personally tell you the company is small (mainly just JT, sometimes the help of his children and a few women). I never, ever had a male cleaning tech. Also, he taught younger children at his studio.

 

[mpnola]

I am still interested in the fake leaf that was determined not to be Chelsea's fake leaf that was right by her costume of fake leaves! That feels to me almost like someone trying to lure or give a hint that it was there. I dont know if that was the killer, trying to make the search area near the outfit and not the actual area or someone who maybe knew it was there but didnt feel they could say, so planted a clue. I don't know. I said it before- I have never found a fake leaf, much less a leaf that does not belong to a fake leaf costume that is also in the area. What are the odds that is coincidence? Not very high, I wouldn't think.

 

[FindHG]

I thought I would drop my two cents worth here as well. JT 'S cleaning company was contracted to do work for a property that I managed. I can personally tell you the company is small (mainly just JT, sometimes the help of his children and a few women). I never, ever had a male cleaning tech. Also, he taught younger children at his studio.

Would you happen to have a location for where the company may have kept vans and supplies, if it is fair to ask?

 

[Ibiz]

Yes, during PC he seemed to speak with a good deal of certainty that the are COULD be accessed by RR tracks and that's why he said it was someone who knows these TRACKS well. I'll see if I can find it in the PC video again.

Thank you. Then he quickly ended the subject like he didn't want to talk or tell how they got in. But he did make it clear that THEY DID NOT COME THROUGH THE GATE OR THE DRIVEWAY!

They accessed the area through the train tracks some how.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Thank you. Then he quickly ended the subject like he didn't want to talk or tell how they got in. But he did make it clear that THEY DID NOT COME THROUGH THE GATE OR THE DRIVEWAY!

They accessed the area through the train tracks some how.

He also said the woods would not have access to a car. IIRC

 

[dmc43613]

Here is the poor sound video it's longer than the one I watched and that was posted earlier.

https://youtu.be/_Gn9NackC5s

At or around 12:55 is where he is stating that the person knew the tracks.

Other comments regarding the location she was found @ 9:50, 11:24, and 12:10

 

[MIMOMMY]

Would you happen to have a location for where the company may have kept your vans and supplies, if it is fair to ask?

No cleaning vans. JT used his personal vehicle which was not labeled as belonging to a company. Most of his supplies were "old school" cleaning products i.e. vinegar etc. He did not believe in using unnecessary chemicals and supplies were bought as needed, when he had the funds. So...there was no "storage or office"

 

[FindHG]

Here is the poor sound video it's longer than the one I watched and that was posted earlier.

https://youtu.be/_Gn9NackC5s

At or around 12:55 is where he is stating that the person knew the tracks.

Other comments regarding the location she was found @ 9:50, 11:24, and 12:10

Sound is a little better here but a shorter version

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...rence-on-chelsea-bruck-investigation/32574618

 

[FindHG]

No cleaning vans. JT used his personal vehicle which was not labeled as belonging to a company. Most of his supplies were "old school" cleaning products i.e. vinegar etc. He did not believe in using unnecessary chemicals and supplies were bought as needed, when he had the funds. So...there was no "storage or office"

So free-lancing off leads you'd provide in his own van or car not labeled, just one, what kind, again, if it is fair to ask?

Thank you, for the information

 

[MIMOMMY]

Yes I would call it a "small business". Older "tan" truck with a cab.

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