GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #5

[FindHG]

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015...le/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Somewhat off-topic, but apparently there was another huge party in the area, this one in Raisinville Twp. with over 1,000 attendees (if that is accurate). Raisinville encompasses Maybee, Mi. where Chelsea lived.

Well, tisk, tisk. More of the same, including the hosts' defender's approach, if you read comments below this MSM report you linked, Spellz. Consider what BM's videos display, in terms of party dynamics, but with twice as many people.

Aren't there laws on the books about knowingly hosting under age drinking, putting kids in danger? LE seems to have taken it easy on them, so far. The defender in the comments does sound awfully litigious, considering the party crowd the incident involves. Rings bells somehow.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

You know, it just occurred to me, it was never said what CB and the sketch were talking about when the vendor saw them having a casual conversation before walking off together in the direction of where the cars were parked. Could the vendor hear what was being said? Did the vendor walk up on them talking? How did the sketch and CB meetup to talk? I believe news articles early on said the vendor was in the midst of packing up band memorabilia when he saw CB and the sketch talking. Also the vendor mentioned CB and the sketch were walking towards a dark colored small car, maybe a honda or toyota? I guess it was assumed this was the sketch's car? Was it ever said the possible year of the car? If it was a 2 or 4 door, or a hatchback? Did it have tire rims, or tinted windows, a dent or two, possibly a little rust?

 

[Deleted member 132804]

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015...le/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Somewhat off-topic, but apparently there was another huge party in the area, this one in Raisinville Twp. with over 1,000 attendees (if that is accurate). Raisinville encompasses Maybee, Mi. where Chelsea lived.

Did any locals attend this party or talk with others at the party. It was so large I'm going to assume people from Monroe, Maybee, Dundee, Carlton, Newport, and possibly Flatrock were at the this party. Does anyone have the fb link to the party? Or know who put it on? I'd like to see the guest list. I have a hunch many of the same people who attended BM's party(s) attended this one too. Were there bands with music or DJ?

Also, has anyone heard if BM is going to have the Halloween party this year? Is anyone planning to attend? It's not the type of music I would listen to, but I would wonder if this year's party could jog a memory or two. Would the suspect return to the scene?

 

[Deleted member 155000]

You know, it just occurred to me, it was never said what CB and the sketch were talking about when the vendor saw them having a casual conversation before walking off together in the direction of where the cars were parked. Could the vendor hear what was being said? Did the vendor walk up on them talking? How did the sketch and CB meetup to talk? I believe news articles early on said the vendor was in the midst of packing up band memorabilia when he saw CB and the sketch talking. Also the vendor mentioned CB and the sketch were walking towards a dark colored small car, maybe a honda or toyota? I guess it was assumed this was the sketch's car? Was it ever said the possible year of the car? If it was a 2 or 4 door, or a hatchback? Did it have tire rims, or tinted windows, a dent or two, possibly a little rust?

Yes, the vendor was selling memorabilia and was said to be one of the only witnesses who was not under the influence of substances. But the vendor only testified that he saw Chelsea and the man in the sketch walk toward "the general direction of the parking lot." There was never a car description, nor did the vendor even see them arrive at the parking lot. He only saw them leave in that direction.

You can find that around the 6:45 mark in the press conference video below, as well as in several articles:
[video=youtube;plCSHAnmBzY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCSHAnmBzY[/video]

One young man did claim to see Chelsea leave with two other men in a vehicle at one point, and claimed he tried to help, but later he admitted he didn't really see anything but wanted to be perceived as a hero who had the only helpful information in this local case. The police later charged him for lying. (That man is called Hero in these forum discussions.)

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Did any locals attend this party or talk with others at the party. It was so large I'm going to assume people from Monroe, Maybee, Dundee, Carlton, Newport, and possibly Flatrock were at the this party. Does anyone have the fb link to the party? Or know who put it on? I'd like to see the guest list. I have a hunch many of the same people who attended BM's party(s) attended this one too. Were there bands with music or DJ?

Also, has anyone heard if BM is going to have the Halloween party this year? Is anyone planning to attend? It's not the type of music I would listen to, but I would wonder if this year's party could jog a memory or two. Would the suspect return to the scene?

The party in Raisinville was hosted by DH (named in this article: http://www.wxyz.com/news/charges-could-be-filed-after-wild-party-involving-minors).

He considers himself a party promoter via social media and his Facebook page is also easy to find. There were no bands, but there was a DJ. The audience doesn't seem to be into the same kind of music as Chelsea and her friends. A lot of what can be heard on previous videos is more like techno music. This host did take ID at the door and issue wristbands for people who were of age and he used a security company.

Here is the Facebook page for the party: https://www.facebook.com/events/499899766840117/

 

[black_squirrel]

The party in Raisinville was hosted by DH (named in this article: http://www.wxyz.com/news/charges-could-be-filed-after-wild-party-involving-minors).

He considers himself a party promoter via social media and his Facebook page is also easy to find. There were no bands, but there was a DJ. The audience doesn't seem to be into the same kind of music as Chelsea and her friends. A lot of what can be heard on previous videos is more like techno music. This host did take ID at the door and issue wristbands for people who were of age and he used a security company.

Here is the Facebook page for the party: https://www.facebook.com/events/499899766840117/

It indeed looks like a very different crowd. I think that they had a similar system at BM's party. But I think minors don't buy the
alcohol at the party itself, but they just smuggle it in or get drunk off the premises. The security at BM's halloween does not seem
professional, but rather just some of his buddies.

 

[FindHG]

The party in Raisinville was hosted by DH (named in this article: http://www.wxyz.com/news/charges-could-be-filed-after-wild-party-involving-minors).

He considers himself a party promoter via social media and his Facebook page is also easy to find. There were no bands, but there was a DJ. The audience doesn't seem to be into the same kind of music as Chelsea and her friends. A lot of what can be heard on previous videos is more like techno music. This host did take ID at the door and issue wristbands for people who were of age and he used a security company.

Here is the Facebook page for the party: https://www.facebook.com/events/499899766840117/

That is actually funny. The "professional" security seems not to have worked going by what occurred.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

The party in Raisinville was hosted by DH (named in this article: http://www.wxyz.com/news/charges-could-be-filed-after-wild-party-involving-minors).

He considers himself a party promoter via social media and his Facebook page is also easy to find. There were no bands, but there was a DJ. The audience doesn't seem to be into the same kind of music as Chelsea and her friends. A lot of what can be heard on previous videos is more like techno music. This host did take ID at the door and issue wristbands for people who were of age and he used a security company.

Here is the Facebook page for the party: https://www.facebook.com/events/499899766840117/

Many thanks BessDrew! OMG..they invited 213 people and 1000/1300 showed up! They must have put it out on twitter too or something. From the fb invite it looks like a different crowd than BM's parties. The promoter's flyer says he was hoping for 2,500 people. It says the promoters reside in frenchtown, are from the Detroit area, but the party was at a compound in Raisinville Township, in or near Maybee where CB is from. They had a party in July too. I checked back to see if there were parties in 2014, but this looks like the first year, and from the sounds of it, maybe the last year.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

Yes, the vendor was selling memorabilia and was said to be one of the only witnesses who was not under the influence of substances. But the vendor only testified that he saw Chelsea and the man in the sketch walk toward "the general direction of the parking lot." There was never a car description, nor did the vendor even see them arrive at the parking lot. He only saw them leave in that direction.

You can find that around the 6:45 mark in the press conference video below, as well as in several articles:
[video=youtube;plCSHAnmBzY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCSHAnmBzY[/video]

One young man did claim to see Chelsea leave with two other men in a vehicle at one point, and claimed he tried to help, but later he admitted he didn't really see anything but wanted to be perceived as a hero who had the only helpful information in this local case. The police later charged him for lying. (That man is called Hero in these forum discussions.)

Many Thanks! Ah yes, I remember now, the "Hero" is where the car information came from, which was later considered false. Odd how someone would make up a story like that. Still wonder if there could be some truth to it somehow.

Reviewing the press conference the Sheriff says they interviewed 138 people from the party, some 2 and 3 times. There must be information LE is keeping to themselves. Some people being interview 2 and 3 times is telling.

 

[FindHG]

Yes, the vendor was selling memorabilia and was said to be one of the only witnesses who was not under the influence of substances. But the vendor only testified that he saw Chelsea and the man in the sketch walk toward "the general direction of the parking lot." There was never a car description, nor did the vendor even see them arrive at the parking lot. He only saw them leave in that direction.

You can find that around the 6:45 mark in the press conference video below, as well as in several articles:
[video=youtube;plCSHAnmBzY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCSHAnmBzY[/video]

One young man did claim to see Chelsea leave with two other men in a vehicle at one point, and claimed he tried to help, but later he admitted he didn't really see anything but wanted to be perceived as a hero who had the only helpful information in this local case. The police later charged him for lying. (That man is called Hero in these forum discussions.)

Thank you, BessDrew, and all who thank you too. 1/4 of the work left, according to LE, was my impression of where things were, right after she was found.

Nice to see Chelsea's thread alive and to remember the hard work that continues on her behalf and her family, friends and all those who hold the thought of justice for her dear.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

My pleasure, Looking Glass. Thank you for the encouragement. I wish there was more to report here in this area, but it has been fairly quiet with the last official word from police being to ask the public for any information they might have to help.

I am sure they're working on it behind the scenes still, but are likely hitting a slow phase as they're at the mercy of the evidence and testimony available to them.

For what it's worth, local rumblings don't suggest the more recent large party in Raisinville is connected in any way with BM's Halloween Party. Different group, different scene, different agenda. Though in such smalltown areas, you can be sure there is a group of people who attended both so no possibility is completely off the table, I guess.

I'll keep coming back and posting any new information that surfaces locally as I am able. Thanks everyone who lives far and wide for revisiting this forum to help people in a community you've probably never been to. It's ironic and beautiful that tragedies often also help us see the best of humankind as the good people who run toward those who need help always outnumber the villains.

 

[colette]

That is actually funny. The "professional" security seems not to have worked going by what occurred.

You really can't blame security if Chelsea left with someone whom she didn't fear but should have. What happened to her was not done during the party but away from the party IMHO.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

You really can't blame security if Chelsea left with someone whom she didn't fear but should have. What happened to her was not done during the party but away from the party IMHO.

Right. I don't know them personally, but my take on it is it's a group of people who were inadequately prepared to host and police an event of this magnitude. That was foolish, but not intentional or criminal. Unfortunately, their poor decision lent to a chaotic atmosphere that may have distracted people from noticing more about Chelsea's last events and departure, including whether there was eventually an issue or a struggle as they left.

Most days a chaotic party might result in some fights and over-served individuals. The fact that this night resulted in a murder falls to the person or persons responsible for Chelsea's death. I still think there are multiple people who know or suspect who it is that Chelsea might have left with, so I will end this by saying it has been almost a year now. Coming forward with what you know, even anonymously, could be the thing that brings closure to a grieving family. It could prevent others from being harmed in the future. And it could save you years of regret trying to sleep at night knowing you're protecting someone who could do something like that. Please, if you know something, write it down, put it in a mailbox, and send it to the police station.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

I'm hoping the family will have another fundraiser soon, Justice for Chelsea. It's been almost a year. The person(s) responsible need to be off the streets.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

You guys. Here's a piece of related local news. More on the investigation into Julia Niswender's death. As most of you know, Julia was a friend of Chelsea's sister. She was murdered previously in her apartment and the case has never been solved.

No public evidence has arisen yet to suggest Chelsea's death and Julia's death might be related, but people have speculated about the possibility given the low odds of two friends in a group being murdered in a community like this one.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor...uments_detail_allegations_a.html#incart_river

 

[Deleted member 155000]

Here's another article with a few small additions related to the Julia Niswender case. Julia, again, was a friend of Chelsea's sister. Chelsea knew the Niswender family and at least one photo of Julia and her sister and Chelsea and one of her sisters together has been posted previously. http://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...sectomy-fbi-profiler-points-stepdad/71507420/

 

[Spellbound]

I'm hoping the family will have another fundraiser soon, Justice for Chelsea. It's been almost a year. The person(s) responsible need to be off the streets.

No link, but I remember the family stating they will not be doing more searches, etc. The "headquarters" has closed. They want to leave the rest of the investigation to LE. They do have a new poster on the FB (Find Chelsea Bruck, Help Find Chelsea Bruck)

 

[Spellbound]

From the freep article:
"Coppock stated she interviewed Niswender's best friend on Dec. 14, 2012, and the woman told her that Niswender disclosed two years prior to her death that Turnquist did "inappropriate things" to her sexually, growing up as a child. The friend, who is not being named by the Free Press, also stated that Turnquist also made inappropriate remarks to her, referring to her as "his girlfriend" and asking at one point if she was "coming to cuddle" with him. But the friend, who was re-interviewed on Feb. 15, 2013, later denied ever making those statements to Coppock."

BBM:

This article says her "best friend" was interviewed, though the M-Live article just said "a friend". From what I understand, she is best friends with Chelsea's sister. Why would she recant? Of course, best friends can be more than one person, and it may not have been C's sister who gave the statement.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

From the freep article:
"Coppock stated she interviewed Niswender's best friend on Dec. 14, 2012, and the woman told her that Niswender disclosed two years prior to her death that Turnquist did "inappropriate things" to her sexually, growing up as a child. The friend, who is not being named by the Free Press, also stated that Turnquist also made inappropriate remarks to her, referring to her as "his girlfriend" and asking at one point if she was "coming to cuddle" with him. But the friend, who was re-interviewed on Feb. 15, 2013, later denied ever making those statements to Coppock."

BBM:

This article says her "best friend" was interviewed, though the M-Live article just said "a friend". From what I understand, she is best friends with Chelsea's sister. Why would she recant? Of course, best friends can be more than one person, and it may not have been C's sister who gave the statement.

I noticed that too. However, from the coverage of Niswender's death, she appeared to have many close female friends, some of them from her new life away at college, so I don't think there's any reason to assume the person cited is related to Chelsea.

It is curious why the statement from Julia's friend was recanted or misreported though.

One of these seem like the most likely explanations.

1. The witness, Julia's friend, may have later second guessed her remarks, feeling as though she accidentally offered information she wasn't sure about.
2. The witness, Julia's friend, feared having these remarks linked to her and believed it could make her the target of public scrutiny...or even some sort of threat.
3. The recording police officer may have misunderstood and mistakenly misreported or exaggerated what was said.

 

[Mountaingazer]

From the freep article:
"Coppock stated she interviewed Niswender's best friend on Dec. 14, 2012, and the woman told her that Niswender disclosed two years prior to her death that Turnquist did "inappropriate things" to her sexually, growing up as a child. The friend, who is not being named by the Free Press, also stated that Turnquist also made inappropriate remarks to her, referring to her as "his girlfriend" and asking at one point if she was "coming to cuddle" with him. But the friend, who was re-interviewed on Feb. 15, 2013, later denied ever making those statements to Coppock."

BBM:

This article says her "best friend" was interviewed, though the M-Live article just said "a friend". From what I understand, she is best friends with Chelsea's sister. Why would she recant? Of course, best friends can be more than one person, and it may not have been C's sister who gave the statement.

C's sister is Julia ' s twin sister's best friend, not Julia ' s best friend.