GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #6

[rosesfromangels]

I don't think I'm the only 'sleuther following this case who doubts that Clay disposed of Chelsea's body without help. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. I anticipate some unexpected twists and turns before DC's case gets to trial

Yes indeed. I am anticipating some bombshells in this case. Stay tuned.

 

[Spellbound]

Seems everything is on hold until the results are in from the competency eval.:

First District Judge Jack Vitale set a new date for Sept. 22 to review the results of the evaluations.
If Mr. Clay is found competent to stand trial, then the cases will proceed through the judicial system. Also, it is expected that the criminal cases will be kept separate but the court dates could be held on the same day.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160820/court-dates-for-bruck-slaying-suspect-delayed-until-hearing

 

[gregjrichards]

Seems everything is on hold until the results are in from the competency eval.:

First District Judge Jack Vitale set a new date for Sept. 22 to review the results of the evaluations.
If Mr. Clay is found competent to stand trial, then the cases will proceed through the judicial system. Also, it is expected that the criminal cases will be kept separate but the court dates could be held on the same day.

http://www.monroenews.com/news/20160820/court-dates-for-bruck-slaying-suspect-delayed-until-hearing

Thanks for this update. On what grounds have they requested a psych evaluation? After claiming his attack was allegedly a consenual encounter gone wrong to someone close to him that indicates to me he is of sound mind and knows how bad it looks for him.

 

[Spellbound]

Thanks for this update. On what grounds have they requested a psych evaluation? After claiming his attack was allegedly a consenual encounter gone wrong to someone close to him that indicates to me he is of sound mind and knows how bad it looks for him.

I don't know there is one specific reasons for it. Maybe because he admitted to killing her and when the lawyer tried to request bond he spoke up to the judge and said he did not want it. Kind of a standard procedure to buy time, IMO.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Thanks for this update. On what grounds have they requested a psych evaluation? After claiming his attack was allegedly a consenual encounter gone wrong to someone close to him that indicates to me he is of sound mind and knows how bad it looks for him.

...Russell Smith, the court-appointed attorney for 27-year-old Daniel Clay, during a probable cause conference Thursday in Monroe County First District Court requested his client be granted a psychiatric evaluation after meeting with him in the county jail.

“He, for lack of a better word, is distraught,” Mr. Smith said, adding Mr. Clay has been seen by psychiatric personnel and prescribed medication since his arrest July 22.

Judge Jack Vitale ordered Mr. Clay transferred immediately to the Center for Forensic Psychiatry in Ann Arbor for evaluation. He also ordered an accompanying evaluation to determine Mr. Clay’s criminal responsibility...

http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2016/07/29/Suspect-in-death-of-Bruck-to-be-evaluated.html

 

[Tssiemer]

Poor guy. -eye roll- I work in mental health and clients don't even get meds that fast.


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[rosesfromangels]

Guess whose taxpayer dollars paid for his happy pills?

 

[Spellbound]

Well, it certainly seems to me that anyone with any conscious or regret might be feeling distraught under these circumstances. Now that he has to face up to the consequences of his actions (maybe for the first time in his life) he has become anxious, depressed, worried? Seems about right. Definitely not a good reason for getting out of this, though.

 

[Tssiemer]

Ok so when I diagnose people, if someone had just been caught because they killed someone, I'd say that's a normal response and pass on the diagnosis lol.


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[Skigirl]

Guess whose taxpayer dollars paid for his happy pills?

If it makes you feel any better, the prosecution is likely all for trying to medicate him so that they can MAKE him competent to stand trial. They don't want any outcome overturned on the grounds that he could not participate in his own defense. A judge also doesn't want to see that happen, so would order an evaluation of his criminal responsibility so that when he's tried, if he is found guilty, the state can say, "look, he 'lost' fair and square. He was competent and it was ruled at the time that he was sane enough to bear criminal responsibility."

It's a win for the public, who is interested in seeing Chelsea's killer convicted and for the conviction to stick. For all we know, he does not want to take meds to become competent to stand trial. He could be compelled to do so.

 

[Skigirl]

Well, it certainly seems to me that anyone with any conscious or regret might be feeling distraught under these circumstances. Now that he has to face up to the consequences of his actions (maybe for the first time in his life) he has become anxious, depressed, worried? Seems about right. Definitely not a good reason for getting out of this, though.

I doubt he'll get out

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Guess whose taxpayer dollars paid for his happy pills?

We're paying for his court-appointed attorney, too. And, if convicted, his room & board for a very long time (I hope).

 

[Inspector Gidget]

When he looked at all the other inmates,he probably freaked out.All I have to say is welcome to your new home.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Welcome to purgatory. Next stop....hell.

 

[gregjrichards]

...Russell Smith, the court-appointed attorney for 27-year-old Daniel Clay, during a probable cause conference Thursday in Monroe County First District Court requested his client be granted a psychiatric evaluation after meeting with him in the county jail.

“He, for lack of a better word, is distraught,” Mr. Smith said, adding Mr. Clay has been seen by psychiatric personnel and prescribed medication since his arrest July 22.

Judge Jack Vitale ordered Mr. Clay transferred immediately to the Center for Forensic Psychiatry in Ann Arbor for evaluation. He also ordered an accompanying evaluation to determine Mr. Clay’s criminal responsibility...

http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2016/07/29/Suspect-in-death-of-Bruck-to-be-evaluated.html

Thanks for this update. I hope the magnitude of what he has done is hitting him and it does for the rest of his life. But his distress is not anywhere near the heartbreaking anguish the Bruck family have suffered and continue to suffer. He deserves zero sympathy from anybody after what he has done. He was living life while Chelsea's family and friends were desperately searching for her and Chelsea was deceased. Now he is in jail he is distraught? It makes you sick.

I'm all for him getting antidepressants etc if it means he is fit enough for trial. This will help ensure his sentence is final & there are no grounds for a successful appeal.

 

[Paulas88]

Thanks for this update. I hope the magnitude of what he has done is hitting him and it does for the rest of his life. But his distress is not anywhere near the heartbreaking anguish the Bruck family have suffered and continue to suffer. He deserves zero sympathy from anybody after what he has done. He was living life while Chelsea's family and friends were desperately searching for her and Chelsea was deceased. Now he is in jail he is distraught? It makes you sick.

I'm all for him getting antidepressants etc if it means he is fit enough for trial. This will help ensure his sentence is final & there are no grounds for a successful appeal.

He wasn't just living life, he raped another women. IMO, he wasn't feeling that bad.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Michigan’s Insanity Defense and the Defense of Guilty But Mentally Ill

Michigan has two related but very different insanity type of defenses: insanity (aka “not guilty by reason of insanity”) and “guilty but mentally ill”

In Michigan, when one wants to raise the insanity defense, one files a notice with the court and prosecutor, at least 30 days before trial, stating his/her intention to assert the defense of insanity at trial. The court would then order the defendant to undergo an examination with the center for forensic psychiatry or other qualified personnel. The defendant can be held in jail pending the trial and examination. Jail is not, however, required. The defendant must fully cooperate with the examination. The statements made during the assessment are not admissible as evidence, but the report or conclusions are admissible...

http://www.mwplegal.com/michigans-insanity-defense-and-the-defense-of-guilty-but-mentally-ill/

 

[gregjrichards]

He wasn't just living life, he raped another women. IMO, he wasn't feeling that bad.

Sorry I'm on a lot of pain meds I forgot he attacked after Chelsea and not before. You're absolutely right his actions speak louder than words he feels no remorse for what he has done and only pity for himself.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I wish this case were being tried in Texas.

 

[FindHG]

I think I remember him from the screenshots of that night, straight-faced, no expression, in a short-sleeved, black T Shirt, the neck of it a little stretched out, black pants, no sweatshirt, hands in his front pockets, his head tilted a little up, looking over others' heads toward the stage but not at the band, eyes cast down toward the crowd. I'm not sure if that's from one image or a memory compiled from the various times he may have appeared on the video.

That was my first reaction when I saw his face.

What else is there to say, my hands are shaking as I type this?

May the Brucks and all those who love Chelsea and who care have the strength to see this through to a complete a justice as they wish and the law would have.