GUILTY MI - Daniel Sorensen, 26, beheaded & burned, Northville, 7 Nov 2007

  • #41
I agree, I think we have to be little careful about cheering when a "SO" dies or is killed. Hubby was just reading about a case of a kid (black) who had a gf (white) and did 5 years in prison for engaging in consensual oral sex. I think he was 20 and she was 15. He will forever have to register as a sex-offender. He was reported by the girl's father - dad's real objection was his race.

Personally I think the stautory sex crimes (if consensual when "child" is 15, 16for example) should have a different moniker than sex offender who must be registered for life.

Eve

I couldn't agree more - when people are labeled SOs for something like that, it only serves to make the whole SO status thing meaningless.
 
  • #42
Neither do I. I also agree that his murder was probably unrelated to his SO status - looks like someone was trying to stop the identification of his body.

My prayers for his family and for everyone affected by this brutal crime.

I am also surprised at how many people are applauding his death. I doubt it had anything to do with his SO status also. Now someone the likes of Chester Stiles, I could live with that. I do hope justice is served for his family to heal. I have to say that when I was 16 I briefly had a relationship with a 21 year old and I do not feel like I was victimized. I knew exactly what I was doing. I think people see sex offender and scream death!! I think this whole sex offender thing needs an overhaul. They don't even know where a lot of the ones they have registered are.
 
  • #43
I agree - it may have been a case of a 20 year old with a 15 year old girlfriend. Not the same as molseting a young child.

We had a poster here whose daughter peed behind a bush after a on-campus concert at her college. She was arrested by campus security and charged with indecent exposure. As part of the plea bargain she was offered, she would have had to register as "sex offender" for the rest of her life. I never heard how the case was resolved, but "sex offender" can mean a lot of things nowadays.
 
  • #44
Noone should feel they are above the law and take things into their own hands, no matter how disgusting the crime

I agree!
 
  • #45
I can't believe how many of you can sit here and applaud this man's death when you don't even know the circumstances of his charges.

Exactly! Sometimes this board seems like a blind witch hunt.

This could very well have been a situation in which a 15-16 year old was in a relationship with a 20-21 year old. It doesn't make things right, but maybe one of her parents allowed this, or maybe they snuck around for a while, but either way it's much different from someone molesting a 5 year old.

No one is above the law and no one should take the law into their own hands. I think everyone should consider the circumstances behind the crime before you judge him and applaud his death.
 
  • #46
Noone should feel they are above the law and take things into their own hands, no matter how disgusting the crime

And that is the bottom line, regardless of what the dead man may have done in the past.
 
  • #47
We had a poster here whose daughter peed behind a bush after a on-campus concert at her college. She was arrested by campus security and charged with indecent exposure. As part of the plea bargain she was offered, she would have had to register as "sex offender" for the rest of her life. I never heard how the case was resolved, but "sex offender" can mean a lot of things nowadays.

Very true. You can be caught mooning someone and have to register as a sex offender. That happened at my daughter's college.
 
  • #48
This man's age aside and what the circumstances were of his arrest I don't believe just any old human being on earth could go burn someone and decapitate them. I'd like to think I could to people that harm children, but when it comes down to it could any of us actually set a body on fire and chop it up? I don't think I could. No matter what the crime I don't think I could do that to another human being.
 
  • #49
This man's age aside and what the circumstances were of his arrest I don't believe just any old human being on earth could go burn someone and decapitate them. I'd like to think I could to people that harm children, but when it comes down to it could any of us actually set a body on fire and chop it up? I don't think I could. No matter what the crime I don't think I could do that to another human being.

I think I could detach my thoughts enough to take a life - since that's relatively quick - but to then do something with the body like cut it up? I doubt it. I get nauseated cutting a whole chicken into parts.
 
  • #50
I think I could detach my thoughts enough to take a life - since that's relatively quick - but to then do something with the body like cut it up? I doubt it. I get nauseated cutting a whole chicken into parts.

Same here, Glitch. They got one fingerprint off that guy so I'd say it was someone knew what they were doing. He PO'd the wrong people.
 
  • #51
This man's age aside and what the circumstances were of his arrest I don't believe just any old human being on earth could go burn someone and decapitate them. I'd like to think I could to people that harm children, but when it comes down to it could any of us actually set a body on fire and chop it up? I don't think I could. No matter what the crime I don't think I could do that to another human being.

Yep would take a real evil person to treat another human being like that. I couldn't do it.
 
  • #52
I can't believe how many of you can sit here and applaud this man's death when you don't even know the circumstances of his charges.

I also am taken aback at the response of approval.
I don't know what percentage of the members here are Americans, but our culture and laws prohibit "cruel and unusual punishment."

Beheading/burning would fall into the "cruel and unusual" category! :doh:
 
  • #53
I also am taken aback at the response of approval.
I don't know what percentage of the members here are Americans, but our culture and laws prohibit "cruel and unusual punishment."

Beheading/burning would fall into the "cruel and unusual" category! :doh:



And raping and/or hurting a child isn't? I don't condone what happened in this case, because I don't know the circumstances of his conviction. However, any adult who abuses a child gets what they deserve when things like this happen. Unfortunately the legal system doesn't protect society anymore, it protects the criminals. So sometimes citizens feels as though they have no option but to take the law into their own hands.
 
  • #54
And raping and/or hurting a child isn't? I don't condone what happened in this case, because I don't know the circumstances of his conviction. However, any adult who abuses a child gets what they deserve when things like this happen. Unfortunately the legal system doesn't protect society anymore, it protects the criminals. So sometimes citizens feels as though they have no option but to take the law into their own hands.

Where do these ideas come from? Abusers of children are far more likely to be locked up today than they were in the past, when such things were often considered a "private matter."
 
  • #55
Yeah see, I still think you get more time for drug possession, maiming animals, not paying parking tickets etc...than you do for child molestation. Then you move on to the next town and poison someone elses well...in any case, I do not approve of vigilante justice if that is what this is. This man had to be on the fringes of society as a registered sex offender which would make him a target for a number of things much less a thrill killing...it might be that in the end?
 
  • #56
I can't believe how many of you can sit here and applaud this man's death when you don't even know the circumstances of his charges.

Dearest Masterj,:blowkiss:
Thank-you for your post.
I cannot believe some of the posts on this thread.


All of my Love and Respect to you,
dark_shadows
 
  • #57
Maybe you are right that it is cruel to applaud his death. After hearing what his offense was I am not sure this was deserved. There is a big difference between raping a 5 year old and having a sexual relationship with a 16 y/o when you are 20 or 21, which is what i suspect happened to this man. There may be more to his story, who knows, time will tell though. I applauded his death and spoke too soon before knowing anything else about him.
Now if he was responsible for raping or brutalizing a helpless child then thats a different story, in my mind this was deserved but I do no think that is the case here.
 
  • #58
Maybe you are right that it is cruel to applaud his death. After hearing what his offense was I am not sure this was deserved. There is a big difference between raping a 5 year old and having a sexual relationship with a 16 y/o when you are 20 or 21, which is what i suspect happened to this man. There may be more to his story, who knows, time will tell though. I applauded his death and spoke too soon before knowing anything else about him.
Now if he was responsible for raping or brutalizing a helpless child then thats a different story, in my mind this was deserved but I do no think that is the case here.
To my dearest 2sisters,:blowkiss:
Your post is truly appreciated.

All of my Love and Respect to you,
dark_shadows
 
  • #59
The code indicated the perp must be 5 years older than the victim.
I also found him on Illinois site.
Search by last name only


He was from Pekin Illinois.

Try this link.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/sor/
Dear Cubby,:blowkiss:
Thank-you for posting the link.

Much Respect,
dark_shadows
 
  • #60

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