MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #12

[crhedBngr]

I was traveling home from Gladwin, MI yesterday stopped at a gas station/store and Dani's missing flyer was still hanging in the window that they allowed me to put up! Much love!

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I'm so glad to hear this!

Also, what beautiful children in your avatar!

 

[Owl4]

I'm so glad to hear this!

Also, what beautiful children in your avatar!

Thankyou! So sweet to say! Those are my youngest boys 15, 12. I have to older girls! And grandchildren [emoji175] [emoji72]

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[Jvt9]

I live near Hines Park in Livonia. My "sleuthy" investigative nature has taken me there recently a few times already, but when I heard over the weekend that an "extensive search" would be done there, I figured I'd at least drive thru once a day just to see. Sadly, I haven't seen any activity...at all. I've stopped off at a few different points & looked around for a bit myself. I definitely get a "feeling" there & also feel overwhelmed realizing how dense & expansive it really is.
I know many people feel like me, wanting to search. I also know legally, as long as it is public property, it is allowed.
From the beginning (I have no idea why) but I always thought of Hines. With the most recent development, that feeling is obviously even stronger.

Anyone else local & interested in organizing some group searches? It really is a little creepy alone, even though I always have my dog & there are plenty of people walking, biking, driving thru, etc.

I was really hoping to see police out, with dogs, etc!



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[Owl4]

I live near Hines Park in Livonia. My "sleuthy" investigative nature has taken me there recently a few times already, but when I heard over the weekend that an "extensive search" would be done there, I figured I'd at least drive thru once a day just to see. Sadly, I haven't seen any activity...at all. I've stopped off at a few different points & looked around for a bit myself. I definitely get a "feeling" there & also feel overwhelmed realizing how dense & expansive it really is.
I know many people feel like me, wanting to search. I also know legally, as long as it is public property, it is allowed.
From the beginning (I have no idea why) but I always thought of Hines. With the most recent development, that feeling is obviously even stronger.

Anyone else local & interested in organizing some group searches? It really is a little creepy alone, even though I always have my dog & there are plenty of people walking, biking, driving thru, etc.

I was really hoping to see police out, with dogs, etc!



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Hi Jvt9! I also live in Livonia few miles from Hines. I would join in a search. Although, depending on work hours. I know with everything in full bloom it seems like a needle and a haystack where to look. I often think back when LE did searches of Floyd's home, did they check that garage? I also think about few days ago a body was found in one of those plastic barrels in Detroit. Was it the missing man from Detroit did they ever say? My mind often wonders what he did to her... breaks my heart [emoji120] [emoji174]

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[Spartygirl]

I live near Hines Park in Livonia. My "sleuthy" investigative nature has taken me there recently a few times already, but when I heard over the weekend that an "extensive search" would be done there, I figured I'd at least drive thru once a day just to see. Sadly, I haven't seen any activity...at all. I've stopped off at a few different points & looked around for a bit myself. I definitely get a "feeling" there & also feel overwhelmed realizing how dense & expansive it really is.
I know many people feel like me, wanting to search. I also know legally, as long as it is public property, it is allowed.
From the beginning (I have no idea why) but I always thought of Hines. With the most recent development, that feeling is obviously even stronger.

Anyone else local & interested in organizing some group searches? It really is a little creepy alone, even though I always have my dog & there are plenty of people walking, biking, driving thru, etc.

I was really hoping to see police out, with dogs, etc!



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I'm a bit West of there in Michigan, but depending on work schedule, I would drive there to help search also !!

 

[kelsie]

You guys are so sweet and thoughtful! Keep us updated if you do search.

 

[monster12]

Hi Jvt9! I also live in Livonia few miles from Hines. I would join in a search. Although, depending on work hours. I know with everything in full bloom it seems like a needle and a haystack where to look. I often think back when LE did searches of Floyd's home, did they check that garage? I also think about few days ago a body was found in one of those plastic barrels in Detroit. Was it the missing man from Detroit did they ever say? My mind often wonders what he did to her... breaks my heart [emoji120] [emoji174]

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The last article I read they said it was a male but still couldn't identify the body. [emoji57]


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[mittenstate1988]

Hi Jvt9! I also live in Livonia few miles from Hines. I would join in a search. Although, depending on work hours. I know with everything in full bloom it seems like a needle and a haystack where to look. I often think back when LE did searches of Floyd's home, did they check that garage? I also think about few days ago a body was found in one of those plastic barrels in Detroit. Was it the missing man from Detroit did they ever say? My mind often wonders what he did to her... breaks my heart [emoji120] [emoji174]

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With how many warrants were executed, I'd assume they would have checked that garage at some point. I wonder if they will have searches at the end of summer/fall when everything isn't so green. Either way, if you guys go searching the area, please be safe and stick together in a group! Until there is a conviction, edge on the side of caution. Plus, who knows how family may try to intervene if it word got out y'all were searching the area.

Also, yes, sadly, the family and Wayne County ME has identified the body in Detroit as that of former Marine Douglas "Chef Doug" Calhoun. That said, last I read, the ME had not yet officially confirmed his identity. Waiting on DNA, I'd guess. It initially sounded like there was a lot of decomposition when they found him last week. Not sure if this link is on the OK list or not but: https://www.metrotimes.com/table-an...detroit-chef-found-dead-on-detroits-west-side

 

[mittenstate1988]

So the way I understand mitten's post is if LE was indeed able to obtain a warrant for a DNA swab or hair sample or both from Galloway, they would have been able to use that warranted sample only to the extent of investigating the matter outlined in the warrant (i.e., Danielle’s case, but not the sexual assault case).

But any DNA evidence that might have been collected during the investigation into Danielle's case that did not come directly from FG's body can be analyzed and entered into CODIS. If there was a match between that profile and a sample found during the investigation into the attempted rape case, along with additional eveidence (in addition to the examples mitten mentioned -and I believe someone else suggested this upthread-, it is possible that some kind of "trophy" taken from the survivor was found at the Berkely house, IMO), the DA likely would have been able to obtain a warrant for FG's arrest in the SA case.

And now that he has been ordered to submit to a court-ordered DNA test, his DNA profile (sample for which will come directly from FG's body via a swab, hair, blood, etc.) will be entered into CODIS and made available for use in any investigation.

Very smart move on the part of the Oakland County -and Wayne County- DA's offices, IMO.

Also would like to add that if, for example, in the course of executing a warrant in Dani's case to search Floyd's car, they found a piece of clothing belonging to the Hines Park victim in plain view, they wouldn't be expected to just leave that evidence there (if they had reason to know it was missing from the other case). As long as they were in good faith executing a valid warrant and weren't going through exempted areas, it's possible the evidence could be turned over (as 806 said). I still believe DNA is the key, though.

 

[forthefreefood]

I live in the area as well and would join in a search outside of work hours. It gets dark so late right now so we could be out there for awhile after work. Let me know if you guys would like to set something up!!

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[Lee3250]

I would also be up for joining in the search, I used to live in the subdivision at Levan that backs up to Hines and feel like I need to do something. I also walk with my dog that is part Hound dog or a breed that uses her nose for everything and once she gets going it is impossible to stop her even when offering her steak. I will let her roam and she brings me many "gifts"....last night was a squirrel tail, not the whole deceased squirrel, just the tail.

 

[monster12]

Also would like to add that if, for example, in the course of executing a warrant in Dani's case to search Floyd's car, they found a piece of clothing belonging to the Hines Park victim in plain view, they wouldn't be expected to just leave that evidence there (if they had reason to know it was missing from the other case). As long as they were in good faith executing a valid warrant and weren't going through exempted areas, it's possible the evidence could be turned over (as 806 said). I still believe DNA is the key, though.

Part of what you said always seemed mind blowing to me. People have mentioned that LE might have found pieces of clothing belonging to Dani or the other victim in his house. Wouldn't his wife at some point have noticed clothing she knows didn't belong to her? I know it's been said she was in the hospital in early December and probably other times. But I just have a hard time thinking he took something from the runner in September and it's just been sitting in his living room or bedroom in plain view or somewhere it could easily be found by LE like a car trunk or closet. I have heard of some stories like that but just seems so odd they try to cover up or hide what they've done to a person but not to their belongings or evidence.


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[Midge Montana]

Part of what you said always seemed mind blowing to me. People have mentioned that LE might have found pieces of clothing belonging to Dani or the other victim in his house. Wouldn't his wife at some point have noticed clothing she knows didn't belong to her? I know it's been said she was in the hospital in early December and probably other times. But I just have a hard time thinking he took something from the runner in September and it's just been sitting in his living room or bedroom in plain view or somewhere it could easily be found by LE like a car trunk or closet. I have heard of some stories like that but just seems so odd they try to cover up or hide what they've done to a person but not to their belongings or evidence.


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I'd venture a guess that most wives don't know every single thing their husband has in or around the home. The only way to find, say, a piece of clothing hidden in a shoe box (just an example) would be for the wife to searching through every box, container, drawer, etc. her husband owned. Not likely for most people that don't suspect their husband of anything at that point, and even less likely if the wife is suffering from a very serious illness such as cancer, with treatments that make her ill or weak. She probably wouldn't be expending energy (if she even could) on rifling through everything her husband has. I mean, I have never gone digging through my husband's closet, drawers, etc. In addition, there is always the possibility of a husband having a workshop, boxes of tools, etc. that I would have no reason or desire to ever look through.
Likewise, if I wanted to hide something from my husband, he'd never find it. Unless he wanted to go through mounds of scrapbooking supplies, closets full of seasonal clothing (including pockets on LOTS of clothing items, etc.)
It's REALLY not that hard to hide something in your home, if nobody is actively looking for it.

 

[monster12]

I'd venture a guess that most wives don't know every single thing their husband has in or around the home. The only way to find, say, a piece of clothing hidden in a shoe box (just an example) would be for the wife to searching through every box, container, drawer, etc. her husband owned. Not likely for most people that don't suspect their husband of anything at that point, and even less likely if the wife is suffering from a very serious illness such as cancer, with treatments that make her ill or weak. She probably wouldn't be expending energy (if she even could) on rifling through everything her husband has. I mean, I have never gone digging through my husband's closet, drawers, etc. In addition, there is always the possibility of a husband having a workshop, boxes of tools, etc. that I would have no reason or desire to ever look through.
Likewise, if I wanted to hide something from my husband, he'd never find it. Unless he wanted to go through mounds of scrapbooking supplies, closets full of seasonal clothing (including pockets on LOTS of clothing items, etc.)
It's REALLY not that hard to hide something in your home, if nobody is actively looking for it.

I'm talking about LE finding clothing while in the house with search warrants, which have to state what they're looking for and the location of it. People have said maybe clothing was out for them to see that belonged to the jogger or Dani. I wasn't referring to hidden items.


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[inmyhumbleopinion]

I'm talking about LE finding clothing while in the house with search warrants, which have to state what they're looking for and the location of it. People have said maybe clothing was out for them to see that belonged to the jogger or Dani. I wasn't referring to hidden items.

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Maybe LE was able to obtain a warrant that allowed them to search the attic, crawl space, HVAC vents, etc.?

Also, It has been widely reported that items removed from the Galloway residence include things such as a mattress and floorboards. For example, he might have hidden something like a sock or a headband belonging to the SA survivor between his mattress and box spring.

Another possibility I have considered is FG has been so abusive to his wife, he has basically terrorized her to the point she has learned not to question anything. And if she is indeed continuing to support him, -aside from being in denial- perhaps she is afraid of what he may be capable of doing to her and/or her family, as there still is the possibility of him being released on bond.

ETA: I haven't seen anything that indicates FG abused his wife. I just get the sense that he doesn't have much respect towards women in general, and probably wasn't a very good husband to her.

 

[mittenstate1988]

Part of what you said always seemed mind blowing to me. People have mentioned that LE might have found pieces of clothing belonging to Dani or the other victim in his house. Wouldn't his wife at some point have noticed clothing she knows didn't belong to her? I know it's been said she was in the hospital in early December and probably other times. But I just have a hard time thinking he took something from the runner in September and it's just been sitting in his living room or bedroom in plain view or somewhere it could easily be found by LE like a car trunk or closet. I have heard of some stories like that but just seems so odd they try to cover up or hide what they've done to a person but not to their belongings or evidence.


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You would think. I was honestly just giving an example. It was the first thing that popped in my head, probably because I've also read it a few times. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

 

[katlock]

"He hasn't even went [sic] to trial."

There is a difference between legal guilt and factual guilt. If this security guard abducted, raped, and murdered Danielle, which is where all of the evidence points, then he is factually guilty, regardless of whether he ever goes to trial.

The people who use this forum are fully capable of assessing the evidence that has been made public. The assertion that forum users don't know much of anything is false. LE likely has a great deal of evidence that hasn't been shared with the public, but the known circumstantial evidence is compelling by itself. I have lost count of how many similar cases I've followed; it's rare for the evidence to be so clear cut.

Maybe it's unclear to some people because they don't understand perps like this security guard—human vermin to whom other people's lives have no value.

For a better understanding of how psychopaths like this POI operate, I would recommend two books, both by former FBI profiler Robert Ressler (and Tom Shachtman):

Whoever Fights Monsters: My Twenty Years Tracking Serial Killers for the FBI
and
I Have Lived in the Monster: Inside the Minds of the World's Most Notorious Serial Killers.

Sorry ozone but I disagree. Legal guilt and factual guilt is not one for you nor the public to decide. ESPECIALLY BEFORE ANY TRIAL, LE STATEMENTS, OR CHARGES have been brought to the public. I think it seems likely based on what I hear, FG is totally guilty, but come on, you can't have the "factual guilt" argument before you see any evidence from LE. I'm sorry but it's not right.


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[Ozoner]

Sorry ozone but I disagree. Legal guilt and factual guilt is not one for you nor the public to decide. ESPECIALLY BEFORE ANY TRIAL, LE STATEMENTS, OR CHARGES have been brought to the public. I think it seems likely based on what I hear, FG is totally guilty, but come on, you can't have the "factual guilt" argument before you see any evidence from LE. I'm sorry but it's not right.

Factual guilt isn't decided by anyone--it just is. Even if LE didn't have a POI, the perp would still be factually guilty. In this case, his guilt is overwhelmingly obvious based on what we know from reliable sources (not just LE).

 

[Huskerdoo62]

I've just started following this case once the arrest was made in the Hines Park case.

Is there somewhere that has a listing of what evidence/facts are known from LE and other reliable sources?

I've tried reading up on some of the earlier discussion threads, but I'm so late I feel it will take me forever to get through all the prior threads. I started going through them, but figured I'd ask.

 

[Huskerdoo62]

Do we know if they found clothing from Hines Park or Dani at FGs residence?