MI - Dog-mauling death ruled suicide

[katydid23]

I agree, when I was young and impulsive I knew a few emos or drama types who feinted suicide. I know of two girls that cranked up their car in a garage, figured mom would be home in time to find them and they could get her sympathy for the trouble they were in at school. Unfortunately mom stopped to shop.... the end.

Too cunning for their own good.

 

[Zuri]

How could they possibly hold the homeowner liable? His dogs were where they were supposed to be. It is either suicide or an accident, IMO.

I have seen more cases on Judge Judy and Hot Bench about animal injuries and liabilities. Some of them are unbelievable just as you mentioned. It does happen and dogs end up being destroyed.

 

[Chuz Life]

That's one of the reasons guns are so dangerous to have handy. People who have suicidal ideation (suddenly or obsessively) can be impulsive and in a moment of crisis make the decision and if there's an easy method available they act on it. I just never thought a polar bear at the zoo or a dog in someone's yard (not that's what happened here) could be risk factors.

(Btw I think Lt. G's suicide was impulsive and intentional.)

As we can see, Guns are just one of many tools people can use for suicide or even for homicide. The difference between guns and vehicles, knives, poisons, drug overdoses and the like is that guns are the best tool that a person have for home and for personal protections. For that reason, getting rid of guns will have a much greater (negative) impact on people's ability to defend themselves that it will in keeping anyone from committing suicides.

 

[iluvmua]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/death-michigan-woman-mauled-dogs-was-suicide-officials-n478271

Hardy "was walking home from the store when she took a short cut through a yard, and was met by the residents' dog in the yard," the ******** page says. "

 

[bluesneakers]

As we can see, Guns are just one of many tools people can use for suicide or even for homicide. The difference between guns and vehicles, knives, poisons, drug overdoses and the like is that guns are the best tool that a person have for home and for personal protections. For that reason, getting rid of guns will have a much greater (negative) impact on people's ability to defend themselves that it will in keeping anyone from committing suicides.

Maybe OT, but the general discussion involves suicide and suicide attempts so I hope it's okay...

The availability of guns increases the risk of suicide attempts, and the lethality of guns increases risk of suicide to completion.

There are almost twice as many firearm deaths by suicide than by homicide, and you are more likely kill yourself than to kill in self defense. Guns are more efficient for suicide which is part of the problem - an impulsive decision (and a readily available means to act on it) ends in death rather than a trip to the hospital.

Of course it's every person's decision which risk to take, but IMO there's a lot to consider before making it.

(I'm not suggesting getting rid of them, I'd like to make that clear, nor am I trying to start an argument, just sharing some information on the subject.)

*Guns & Suicide: The Hidden Toll
*Access to Guns Increases Risks of Suicide, Homicide

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I still don't believe this was a suicide. I think accidental maybe but not suicide.

 

[Meagain]

One of the law enforcement investigating this owned the property??

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/12/15/suicide-by-pit-bull-ruling-raises-a-number-of-questions/

 

[AlyCain]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/death-michigan-woman-mauled-dogs-was-suicide-officials-n478271

Hardy "was walking home from the store when she took a short cut through a yard, and was met by the residents' dog in the yard," the ******** page says. "

Unfortunately that is conjecture, there was no witness to the original attack. That much is a consensus with most of the news stories. She may have stopped to pet the dogs.

 

[AlyCain]

I still don't believe this was a suicide. I think accidental maybe but not suicide.

Death by misadventure?

 

[jjenny]

So if my brakes are going bad on my car and I drive it and am in an accident and die,did I commit suicide?

It might be my fault ,but it isn't suicide. People subject themselves to misfortune everyday ,it doesn't mean they are all suicidal.

If you know your breaks are bad but still drive, that's negligence. If you cut your breaks and drive, that's suicide.

 

[Rayemonde]

Where I live, the owner of the dogs would be looking at serious charges. IMO the dogs should have never been in the yard unsupervised if they were dangerous. It could have been a kid trying to retrieve a ball, a harmless drunk person, or someone with dementia or mental illness who didn't understand the danger.

And what if the dogs ever get loose? What if there's a storm and the fence blows down? They could kill a kid in a heartbeat. I don't blame the dogs at all and don't think the dogs should be killed, but the owner has a big responsibility to keep people safe from the dogs. All just MOO.

 

[Rayemonde]

Police said a preliminary investigation indicated Hardy entered the fenced-in yard for an unknown reason. A pit bull and another dog in the backyard attacked her. A witness tried to free her from the dogs but could not.

The witness went in the home and got the owner to come out and help. The owner of the dogs was able to free the victim and gave aid to her.

The dogs were taken into custody by the Port Huron Police Department’s Animal Control Officer and were being held at the St. Clair County Animal Control Center.

The disposition of the dogs was being determined, police said.

Okay, looks like the owner of the property was home. But he should have been supervising the dogs more closely *if* he knew they were dangerous, IMO. The witness who tried to help the poor woman could have been mauled as well, and that certainly wouldn't have been a suicide. All just MOO.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/port-huron-dog-mauling-death-ruled-suicide

 

[Rayemonde]

Rebecca Lillian-Kay Hardy

http://www.examiner.com/article/mauled-woman-michigan-mom-s-death-ruled-suicide-by-dog-mauling

Matthew Grattan said Rebecca Lillian-Kay Hardy will be missed by all who knew her. The couple had an 18-month-old daughter together.
"She was full of life," Grattan said. "She was my everything. She loved her daughter with everything.
"She would brighten up the room when she walked in."

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/12/04/pit-bull-attack-port-huron/76786642/

 

[Rayemonde]

According to People Magazine, Medical Examiner Ljubisa Dragovic said, "These were attack dogs. These were vicious dogs in an enclosed space." Dragovic also said, "She obviously was aware of that, because she climbed over the fence to subject herself to this threat."

The medical examiner also said that Rebecca knew about the dogs in that yard because she had avoided them in the past. He also said that this was "akin to somebody jumping into a cage with tigers," as Rebecca did not go through the gate or the front door, she climbed the fence which kept the dangerous dog away from the public.

http://www.examiner.com/article/mauled-woman-michigan-mom-s-death-ruled-suicide-by-dog-mauling

 

[Rayemonde]

I'd be interested to.see a picture of the yard. Is it possible that the dogs were in a kennel or around a corner out of sight, and Rebecca though thought that they weren't there that day?

Also, how high was the fence?

 

[U2forever]

Port Huron dog mauling death ruled suicide

Wait.....wha the fu? hwow:

 

[AlyCain]

The landlord would also be liable as he is the one carrying homeowners insurance. He happens to be a law enforcement officer who declared bankruptcy a few years ago. He will be in deep doo if they sue. The dog owner already has a lawyer, the one who saved the puppy at the 11th hour.

 

[AlyCain]

See any reason to "cut through?" Likely she just stopped to pet the dogs. They were not trained attack dogs says the owner and news.

 

[AlyCain]

 

[AlyCain]

I think this exposes the underbelly of the story pretty much - http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/12/15/suicide-by-pit-bull-ruling-raises-a-number-of-questions/