MI MI - Eric Franks, 40, Buena Vista Twp, 21 March 2011 - #1

[Eric's mom]

Eric's family talked to the MI state police today and updated them on some things that have been happening with Eric's missing person's case. The police were not aware that Eric's story has spread outside of the Saginaw area by family being interviewed. We were told we should get anyone to help us that we can when the family mentioned websleuths help. The detective once again said they thought Eric was deceased and that his car had been crushed without a title. The detective said he thought Eric's family would have heard from him by now if he were alive. As Eric's mom, I have thought that all along. I think it is a shame that the cases of many grown men that go missing are not taken as seriously as the cases of women and children. Grown men are looked at as persons who can disappear if they want to. We need to admit that many times men are victims of crimes that women commit. In Eric's case, a woman has told so many different stories about his disappearance that it makes it impossible to know the truth, thus hampering the investigation. We should have been told what he was wearing when he left in April from in front of her house in the Buena Vista area and headed to CA. Then what was he wearing when he left in March from the motel in the Bridgeport area heading out west? We would like to know where he was living when he was alive, well and with her in June. We want to know where he was when he contacted her on Facebook in May. We need to know his frame of mind when she argued with him and sat in front of her house for 2 days in April trying to get her to make up with him and she refused so he left the area maybe going to Occupy Wallstreet. We need to know did he explain why he would pay a week's rent and then leave the area where he went to meet his daughter without even a goodbye to her. The last person to talk to and see Eric said she helped him get his things out of the motel ( she said she got his things out from under the bathroom sink, put them in a bag and put them in his car) so the argument story in front of her house in April couldn't be the true story. But she argued with him in April and he left then according to her first story, but according to her next story he had already left in March. I guess he came back and left again. But remember that he had an affair with the housekeeper at the motel and her double amputee husband might have killed him during the time he was at the motel. Then there is the more recent story that she thinks he is still alive , but may have gotten in with the wrong group and something happened to him. Are you confused just a little ? Truth on these situations could help the family make some determinations about what happened to Eric. I don't think they should have been allowed to leave the state until some answers were given that weren't conflicting and made some sort of sense.

 

[Eric's mom]

Nothing new to report today, just the same feeling of sadness that I don't know what happened to my son. I often read where some family member of a missing person says "People don't just vanish." I have thought that sure they do. I understand what they mean now. No one just vanishes...someone either did something to them so the crime is well hidden or someone is aware somewhere of their existence. Either way, someone is hiding something from people who are hurting emotionally and sometimes physically because they don't know what happened to their loved one. Someone can stop the pain.

 

[Nymeria]

Nothing new to report today, just the same feeling of sadness that I don't know what happened to my son. I often read where some family member of a missing person says "People don't just vanish." I have thought that sure they do. I understand what they mean now. No one just vanishes...someone either did something to them so the crime is well hidden or someone is aware somewhere of their existence. Either way, someone is hiding something from people who are hurting emotionally and sometimes physically because they don't know what happened to their loved one. Someone can stop the pain.

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Sorry you are having a down day EricsMom

 

[JaimeSommers]

(((Hugs))) and wishes of strength for you, Eric's mom.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

There are laws governing the scrapping of any vehicle. Some states do not require titles to be provided for autos over 10 years old, but looking into MI laws...I am not finding that exclusion. The scrap yards would be, at the very least, required to keep the vehicle ID number and other information. If the police were so certain of this action, they could have tracked down the vehicle with some legwork and phone calls. For them to assume is unacceptable when there is tangible evidence to be found. Maybe this is an avenue to follow up where LE has dropped the ball.

Eric's Mom, I hope you find some peace in your life soon and the strength to sustain you through all of this. Not knowing must be the most difficult thing a parent could ever experience. I pray you find the answers.

 

[Eric's mom]

There are laws governing the scrapping of any vehicle. Some states do not require titles to be provided for autos over 10 years old, but looking into MI laws...I am not finding that exclusion. The scrap yards would be, at the very least, required to keep the vehicle ID number and other information. If the police were so certain of this action, they could have tracked down the vehicle with some legwork and phone calls. For them to assume is unacceptable when there is tangible evidence to be found. Maybe this is an avenue to follow up where LE has dropped the ball.

Eric's Mom, I hope you find some peace in your life soon and the strength to sustain you through all of this. Not knowing must be the most difficult thing a parent could ever experience. I pray you find the answers.

When I first talked to Det Waterman (now police Chief) about salvage yards, he said no salvage yard in MI was going to take a car without a title. He said they would lose their license. I think anyone knows that some would take them anyway with out proper documents. I called salvage yards in Saginaw area and got various answers. One lady told me if a vehicle was brought in disassembled on the back of a truck , they would buy it without question. I agree that without some tangible evidence, this is only a guess. I find it hard to accept that the BV police did not do their job properly so the state police are not able to go back and re-investigate. They will mainly look at new information. Thanks for your help and kind words.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Where is Eric?
And why won't Kendra and John, who were last to see Eric, sympathize with Eric's family?

 

[zwiebel]

Tweet about Eric.

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[Eric's mom]

Where is Eric?
And why won't Kendra and John, who were last to see Eric, sympathize with Eric's family?

John says he never saw Eric at all while he was in MI. Yet he admitted to being the person who put his wife in touch with Eric. He told Eric's aunt that he googled Eric and thought he was kind of "out there" on some of his postings. Yet, he still put his wife in touch knowing the child he raised as his own was biologically Eric's. The last person to see Eric in Saginaw according to her own words to Eric's family and to the BV police was Kendra. The news media has also spoken with her. As for why they do not sympathize with Eric's searching family, I wish I knew. Because if I knew, I would have some answers as to what happened to him and where he is.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

What made John decide to contact Eric out of the blue? A man doesn't invite another man to wreak havoc on his family. He doesn't decide one day to give away a child he has raised to a stranger and hand over his wife on a silver platter at the same time for no reason. What was his motive?

 

[Eric's mom]

What made John decide to contact Eric out of the blue? A man doesn't invite another man to wreak havoc on his family. He doesn't decide one day to give away a child he has raised to a stranger and hand over his wife on a silver platter at the same time for no reason. What was his motive?

According to Eric to family and according to FG's husband to Eric's aunt, Eric got in touch with FG's husband and he gave the info to his wife who then contacted Eric. The police are aware of this. There was no harmony in the FG's marriage according to what was told to Eric's family and to the police by the husband. Her husband told Eric's aunt and the police that she had been cheating on him ever since they got married. Eric didn't wreck havoc. It was the woman who wanted Eric to know she had given birth to his child almost 16 years earlier. If she wasn't so money hungry Eric would still be here with his family. Both the woman and her husband told Eric's family that they thought he had inherited lots of money and was going to leave it to their daughter. As for giving away his child, her husband didn't want to tell Eric according to the woman, but left it up to her.
Good questions. Maybe someday the people discussed will be made to answer your questions. Eric's family wants these answers also. Thanks .

 

[SeriouslySearching]

According to Eric to family and according to FG's husband to Eric's aunt, Eric got in touch with FG's husband and he gave the info to his wife who then contacted Eric. The police are aware of this. There was no harmony in the FG's marriage according to what was told to Eric's family and to the police by the husband. Her husband told Eric's aunt and the police that she had been cheating on him ever since they got married. Eric didn't wreck havoc. It was the woman who wanted Eric to know she had given birth to his child almost 16 years earlier. If she wasn't so money hungry Eric would still be here with his family. Both the woman and her husband told Eric's family that they thought he had inherited lots of money and was going to leave it to their daughter. As for giving away his child, her husband didn't want to tell Eric according to the woman, but left it up to her.
Good questions. Maybe someday the people discussed will be made to answer your questions. Eric's family wants these answers also. Thanks .

I must have misunderstood. Eric tracked him down and then her husband put them in touch? This is what I thought happened earlier, but your post confused me as it read like John reached out to Eric first. Still I think any man who helps his wife hook up with her old lover is setting himself up for a crushing blow especially if he knows she is prone to cheat.

Eric certainly did wreak havoc on their marriage by moving to the area and eventually moving in with his wife. He went there with that intention according to his ex-wife, didn't he? Or am I mistaken again?

 

[Momoffourboys]

What made John decide to contact Eric out of the blue? A man doesn't invite another man to wreak havoc on his family. He doesn't decide one day to give away a child he has raised to a stranger and hand over his wife on a silver platter at the same time for no reason. What was his motive?

IMO one motive: $$$
They thought they hit the jackpot.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

IMO one motive: $$$
They thought they hit the jackpot.

I find it difficult to see that was a motive. Eric could have told them whatever he wanted to tell them, but since it wasn't true and there was no paperwork drawn up...how did they expect to get any money? Did they think Eric's family would just hand it over? I don't think anyone is that naive.

 

[veestevens]

It was eric who made first contact.
i see where some are getting confused about who contacted who first.
Eric contacted her husband and the husband is who put eric and the fg in contact with each other.
One thing led to another until she supposedly hinted at eric being the father of one of her children.
That led to him going to michigan leading to where we are now
one person missing and the suspects in florida acting as if nothing ever happened

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[Momoffourboys]

I find it difficult to see that was a motive. Eric could have told them whatever he wanted to tell them, but since it wasn't true and there was no paperwork drawn up...how did they expect to get any money? Did they think Eric's family would just hand it over? I don't think anyone is that naive.

IMO KF knew how (beyond) thrilled Eric was to meet his daughter. She knew he was head over heels with the notion of being a biological dad. I know people like them. They saw Eric as easy prey since he was very emotionally invested after finding out about his daughter. He had told them he came into some money.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Why did Eric make contact with her husband?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

IMO KF knew how (beyond) thrilled Eric was to meet his daughter. She knew he was head over heels with the notion of being a biological dad. I know people like them. They saw Eric as easy prey since he was very emotionally invested after finding out about his daughter. He had told them he came into some money.

By the time Eric went missing, wasn't it obvious Eric had little to no money so why kill him? I don't see Eric as easy prey at all. His attitude, passion, and his stature certainly do not convey it.

Has anyone done a complete timeline on this case?

 

[Eric's mom]

I must have misunderstood. Eric tracked him down and then her husband put them in touch? This is what I thought happened earlier, but your post confused me as it read like John reached out to Eric first. Still I think any man who helps his wife hook up with her old lover is setting himself up for a crushing blow especially if he knows she is prone to cheat.

Eric certainly did wreak havoc on their marriage by moving to the area and eventually moving in with his wife. He went there with that intention according to his ex-wife, didn't he? Or am I mistaken again?

Yes, you misunderstood something. Eric's former girlfriend's husband told the police that he could not stand his wife. So, I guess that would explain why he would put her in touch with an old boyfriend. Talk about wrecking havoc, the former girlfriend's husband was married with two children and two days after his divorce he married Eric's former girlfriend who was almost 9 mos with Eric's child. Eric should have had some say in his child's life. None of this would have happened if he had only been told about his child early on. Eric had every right to go to Saginaw and meet his child. None of the persons we are discussing were innocent of having feelings they should not have been having. All of them were married. Let's not try to excuse anyone.

 

[Eric's mom]

I find it difficult to see that was a motive. Eric could have told them whatever he wanted to tell them, but since it wasn't true and there was no paperwork drawn up...how did they expect to get any money? Did they think Eric's family would just hand it over? I don't think anyone is that naive.

Certainly Eric had an inheritance, just not the amount the former girlfriend and her husband mentioned. I think when she found out that money was not plentiful for her, she was ready to get back with her husband. She and her husband were not living a "normal" family life according to the police. She wanted whomever appeared to have the most to offer, it seems. If Eric was killed by these people, I don't think it was because of money. I think it had to do with jealous rage. I don't know, of course, but I think it was a matter of it was okay for some one to have the wife he couldn't stand anyway, but his children were a different matter. He told police he and his wife only lived in the same house because they had children.