MI MI - James 'Jimmy' Hoffa, 62, Bloomfield Hills, 30 July 1975

  • #301
ive seen where the week before hoffa disaperaed there was an 8 part written thing in the news paper exposing the mafia and others of taking pension funds and other things. maybe the mafia thought hoffa ratted them out. and the two mobsters that he supposidly was to meet at the restaruant set him up and never showed. instead they sent at least one person he trusted to pick him up and exicute and get rid of the body. we all know those who crosses the mafia disapears. theres also the possibility of the president at the time having him "put down" for not keeping the agreement of him being pardened. im wondering what others think about my therories.

Agree, I doubt those who were "supposed" to meet with him that day ever planned to be there. They sent others, including his foster son that he trusted.
 
  • #302
Warren — A former Mafia member, the ex-federal prosecutor who put him in prison and a journalist who covers Detroit organized crime claim they've solved a mystery that has eluded federal investigators for a half-century: Who killed Jimmy Hoffa and what happened to his body?

The legendary Teamsters boss disappeared July 30, 1975, from the former Machus Red Fox restaurant on Telegraph Road near Maple in Bloomfield Township. He had planned to meet with a group that included a Detroit crime boss and a union official from New Jersey with reported mob ties...

But Scott Burnstein, a Detroit journalist, crime historian and founder of the website The Gangster Report, said he, former mobster-turned-federal-informant Nove Tocco and former Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard Convertino will reveal Hoffa's killer and where the body is buried at a July 23 presentation at Macomb Community College, "Hoffa Mystery Solved: 50 Years Later."...
 
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Warren — A former Mafia member, the ex-federal prosecutor who put him in prison and a journalist who covers Detroit organized crime claim they've solved a mystery that has eluded federal investigators for a half-century: Who killed Jimmy Hoffa and what happened to his body?

The legendary Teamsters boss disappeared July 30, 1975, from the former Machus Red Fox restaurant on Telegraph Road near Maple in Bloomfield Township. He had planned to meet with a group that included a Detroit crime boss and a union official from New Jersey with reported mob ties...

But Scott Burnstein, a Detroit journalist, crime historian and founder of the website The Gangster Report, said he, former mobster-turned-federal-informant Nove Tocco and former Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard Convertino will reveal Hoffa's killer and where the body is buried at a July 23 presentation at Macomb Community College, "Hoffa Mystery Solved: 50 Years Later."...
Not buying this-
 
  • #304
This month marks the 50 year anniversary of Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance.
 
  • #305
Not buying this-
Well, I’m always willing to listen. It sounds like it’s just another theory, though. I don’t get the impression there’s any new inside information.
 
  • #306
Well, I’m always willing to listen. It sounds like it’s just another theory, though. I don’t get the impression there’s any new inside information.
This is how I feel…of course, always ready to listen, but I think this is another one of those occasions where somebody, or a trio of somebodies, are attention-seeking.
 
  • #307
This is how I feel…of course, always ready to listen, but I think this is another one of those occasions where somebody, or a trio of somebodies, are attention-seeking.
I wonder if they’re promoting a book? One of them has a web site that you have to pay to join and read articles.
 
  • #308
Definitely interested .
 
  • #309
Warren — A former Mafia member, the ex-federal prosecutor who put him in prison and a journalist who covers Detroit organized crime claim they've solved a mystery that has eluded federal investigators for a half-century: Who killed Jimmy Hoffa and what happened to his body?

The legendary Teamsters boss disappeared July 30, 1975, from the former Machus Red Fox restaurant on Telegraph Road near Maple in Bloomfield Township. He had planned to meet with a group that included a Detroit crime boss and a union official from New Jersey with reported mob ties...

But Scott Burnstein, a Detroit journalist, crime historian and founder of the website The Gangster Report, said he, former mobster-turned-federal-informant Nove Tocco and former Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard Convertino will reveal Hoffa's killer and where the body is buried at a July 23 presentation at Macomb Community College, "Hoffa Mystery Solved: 50 Years Later."...
Oh wow. I wasn't aware of this. Thank you for posting.
 
  • #310
What Happened to Jimmy Hoffa?

James "Jimmy" Hoffa, age 62, Missing since 30 July 1975

LINK:
 
  • #311
Troy — After 50 years of listening to speculation and jokes about who might have killed his father and where the body might be buried, James P. Hoffa said people often overlook what's important.

"He was a wonderful father, someone I looked up to very much," said the 80-year-old Troy resident who, like his father, served as a longtime president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. "I just want him to be remembered as a great father and a great labor leader."

Since James Riddle Hoffa was last seen alive on July 30, 1975, the case has become steeped in mythology, spawning a cottage industry of authors, former mobsters and podcasters claiming to know what happened. Late-night talk show hosts, politicians and writers have used the Hoffa case as a punchline...
 
  • #312
Troy — After 50 years of listening to speculation and jokes about who might have killed his father and where the body might be buried, James P. Hoffa said people often overlook what's important.

"He was a wonderful father, someone I looked up to very much," said the 80-year-old Troy resident who, like his father, served as a longtime president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. "I just want him to be remembered as a great father and a great labor leader."

Since James Riddle Hoffa was last seen alive on July 30, 1975, the case has become steeped in mythology, spawning a cottage industry of authors, former mobsters and podcasters claiming to know what happened. Late-night talk show hosts, politicians and writers have used the Hoffa case as a punchline...
Jimmy’s son is now 80 years old. I really feel old these days.


It’s behind a paywall, but here’s a link to the story by the latest group to write a book.

 
  • #313
I wonder if anyone from up that way remembers an odd tasting breakfast that summer?

I'll stick to Jimmy Dean.
 
  • #314
The disappearance of former International Brotherhood of Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa on July 30, 1975, has mesmerized the nation for nearly five decades.

But since Hoffa's wife, Josephine, reported him missing later that day after he phoned her to say he was alone in an Oakland County restaurant parking lot, a cottage industry in theories about what happened has emerged. Left behind was Hoffa's family, including daughter Barbara Ann Crancer and son James P. Hoffa, who in 1998 followed in his father's footsteps and became the Teamsters president for 24 years.

James P. Hoffa, 84, reflects on the toll it has taken on the family, the theories about what happened and aspects of the still ongoing FBI investigation...
 
  • #315
There was a book released a while back called I heard you paint houses. In it Frank Sheeren claims that he murdered Hoffa. From what I understand quite a few LE agree that he indeed did do it. Its an interesting book regardless if it truely holds the answers.
I read that. I was one of these people up until relatively recently that always hoped LE would find this poor man's body. But I don't think they ever will because I do believe the outfit would have gone for something like an incinerator or grinder with a high-profile hit like Jimmy Hoffa. I mean, think about it. If they resorted to such means at all, ever, they'd have gone for the extra mile in their murder of Hoffa.

So I read that book pretty carefully a few years back, and I came across a note somewhere in there, I think it's a footnote buried in there somewhere, and that infamous house on Beaverland had an incinerator. Many homes in Michigan in that era did have incinerators, and that particular home was one that did, and it was a larger one. They asked someone about it and it was confirmed you could fit an actual body into that particular incinerator. If I recall accurately, it was in the basement.

If the killers did any burning on site at the house, they had someone from one of the funeral parlors they controlled helping out to deal with odors and smoke. But yes, they'd go the extra mile in Jimmy Hoffa's case, jmo. I think it's futile to be looking for a body because it'll never be found. But any personal effects he had (watch, pinky ring, what have you, and I don't have a clear recollection at the moment of what he might have had of that nature, but I'd guess at the very least his Teamsters watch since he was watching the time for the meeting)-- I hold out hope that there may be some slight chance someone took a trophy. The clothing is I'm sure for the most part gone, but again, for a trophy, maybe shoes, belt regardless? Also, if they didn't completely process down the bone fragments (which was actually possible even in the 70s), those went-- somewhere. But probably completely unrecognizable in terms of what they actually were. If they put any fragments in an agreeable soil type, the bone fragments would have broken down to powder long ago by now.

I think I'd be looking harder at this stage for a ring or watch, provided he was wearing either or both of these. Maybe shoes depending on what shoes he was wearing. My recollection was he was pretty particular about his shoes. A belt buckle, maybe? Chances are miniscule that these will ever materialize at this point, and perhaps were regardless at any point past. But I think the effort to track such an item would yield better results than pursuing an actual body. It's become like a mafioso get out of jail free card to parley with information that has no basis in reality. Some probably do it knowingly, others unwittingly, jmo.
 
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An article here with a bit of the story and featuring Joey Giacolone’s 1974 Mercury Grand Marquis which Mr. Hoffa was allegedly seen getting into at Macau’s Red Fox Restaurant before according to another source I’ve read somewhere was used to drive Jimmy Hoffa to the house mentioned upthread by snooptroop88 at Beaverland & West 7-Mîle. FBI Detroit still have the car.

 
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  • #320
Hoffa's head has been in a box on a shelf , in NJ for a minute an a half.
1976 .
 

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