GUILTY MI - Jane Bashara, 56, dies in contract killing, Grosse Pointe Park, 25 Jan 2012 #2

[lauriej]

Feel better soon Bette :seeya: I did watch and i think the only thing i learned was that Joe was instructed to meet bob at the house at 7:00 p.m. that fateful eve. Also a discrepancy in bob and Joe's story regarding the small job Joe did at the Bashara home. Joe states Jane was home and retrieved the shovel he needed from the garage. bob states Jane wasn't home that day and was at work. Guess that would be easy enough to check out. I do wonder if anyone spotted bob coming home at 7:00. Did we get a time that bob was seen at the bar?

http://www.freep.com/article/20120202/NEWS02/202020610/Man-claims-he-was-paid-to-kill-Jane-Bashara

That evening, he was at the Hard Luck Lounge in Grosse Pointe Park. Sometime between 5 and 5:30 p.m., he started working outside for 20 or 30 minutes at a time, presumably cleaning up the back parking area, and he periodically came in for drinks, a source told the Free Press.

About 7:30 p.m. he had company. A person at the bar who recognized Bob Bashara said he believes the man who joined him was the same man now being called the potential accomplice in Jane Bashara's killing, the source said.

Bob Bashara drank rum and Coke, and the other man had Labatt Blue Lights, according to the source.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Feel better soon Bette :seeya: I did watch and i think the only thing i learned was that Joe was instructed to meet bob at the house at 7:00 p.m. that fateful eve. Also a discrepancy in bob and Joe's story regarding the small job Joe did at the Bashara home. Joe states Jane was home and retrieved the shovel he needed from the garage. bob states Jane wasn't home that day and was at work. Guess that would be easy enough to check out. I do wonder if anyone spotted bob coming home at 7:00. Did we get a time that bob was seen at the bar?

Thank you for the kind thoughts. DH and I have both had terrible colds over the past two weeks. We're convinced that we caught this bug on our return flight from Fort Lauderdale following our doomed cruise on the Crown Princess that was plagued by Norovirus. He had symptoms for about 12 hours, but I was spared from the nasty stomach virus. Maybe we should have just stayed home in the "D" where the winter had been extremely mild.

Be well, everyone.

 

[Bravo]

Thanks for the updates :seeya:

 

[Bravo]

Thank you for the kind thoughts. DH and I have both had terrible colds over the past two weeks. We're convinced that we caught this bug on our return flight from Fort Lauderdale following our doomed cruise on the Crown Princess that was plagued by Norovirus. He had symptoms for about 12 hours, but I was spared from the nasty stomach virus. Maybe we should have just stayed home in the "D" where the winter had been extremely mild.

Be well, everyone.

Your welcome.Oh so sorry to hear your trip was kiboshed with DH down with Norvo. Colds have been terrible this year for sure. The winter has been way too mild. Take care of it as they are stubborn and lingering in the chest. Took 2 antibiotic to clear it up for me. I wonder what March will bring us?

 

[Bravo]

Seems those timelines may be off? Did bob need some liquid courage :waitasec: I remember earlier reports stating there was some contact between Jane and bob earlier that night. I believe at first it was worded such that they were physically together. Later reports didn't seem to confirm that and led me to believe they had contact by phone. I would think bob would want Joe and himself planted at the house well before Jane was due home.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

One thing about the drinking (all the pics of him with a glass in his hand)--and I mean NO offense to other people who are local here, but drinking is a big social activity in this region. I never noticed until I had been gone for 16 years and returned--there is a bar on every corner, it's not unusual for groups of people to meet "at the bar" regularly and sometimes it's the only activity they do together, or they mix it with bowling or another activity that allows them to drink.

Personally, I think it's a holdover from the auto plant days when social activity occurred at the bars near every auto plant, where all the men went directly to after their shift was over--and the wives would join them there or wives would call the bar to tell their husbands to come home.

My boyfriend came to visit once and remarked about the amazing number of bars and lounges here, he'd never seen anything like it.

BB may or may not be an alcoholic, it would be hard to tell just by the pictures just from my knowledge of how people socialize here.

No offense taken In fact, your post got me thinking about how the older Detroit suburbs (and the parts of the city that are still viable) do have plenty of bars. You don't see much of that in the newer 'burbs, but in the older parts of even newly-developed suburban communities, there are still corner bars and/or long-existing diners (maybe Guy Fieri would call them dives )

My sister has lived in a small town for many years and seems to associate just about everything with hanging out at a local bar. Close-knit community members gather to watch sports events, and the neighbors show up at the corner bar after high school sports events. It's a way of life in small towns. In the 'burbs, people wouldn't go to a "bar" to celebrate their kids' athletic achievements: They go to "classier" places like TGIFriday's, Chili's, Red Robin, etc., but it's really the same thing - well, maybe the food is better, and it's not really just a bar

 

[Bravo]

I do think "some" of those older established bars may have survived over the years due to their food. I know Hubby and frequent a few that are nothing to look at but are clean and have the best fish and chicken.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I do think "some" of those older established bars may have survived over the years due to their food. I know Hubby and frequent a few that are nothing to look at but are clean and have the best fish and chicken.

LOL! My dad used to get awesome "take out" pizza and fish & chips from two local (Detroit) purveyors. Both store-front "restaurants" had limited seating, but we only had carry-out and never went to eat there. My siblings and I figured out after a while that Mom and Dad didn't want to take us to a "bar" for dinner :floorlaugh:

 

[TracyLynnS]

O/T

I hadn't thought much about our SE michigan Bar Culture. None of my family are big drinkers since my dad sobered up in '69 so I hadn't really paid too much attention to it.

I've spent most of my life here, had grandparents and many other relatives who moved up from TN to work in the auto plants over the last 60 years. And whenever you go on vacation to touristy areas, bars are usually the center of a lot of the entertainment so I just thought every city was covered in bars. lol

As a child, I moved back to TN for a while. I did notice they mostly had "beer gardens" rather than bars outside the businesses or factories (not that they had many factories in TN back then).

I wonder if it has anything to do with MI's high population of Finns and Swedes? Hubby's grandpa came over from Sweden as a teen, worked in the Ford plant his whole life, and was quite a drinker, but not a drunkard (though his poor wife died at age 40 from alcoholism) and I've never met a Finn or Swede who didn't enjoy socializing over a good drink or few.

 

[Bravo]

LOL! My dad used to get awesome "take out" pizza and fish & chips from two local (Detroit) purveyors. Both store-front "restaurants" had limited seating, but we only had carry-out and never went to eat there. My siblings and I figured out after a while that Mom and Dad didn't want to take us to a "bar" for dinner :floorlaugh:

LOL Yes taking your children a definite No No then even tho just to eat. LOL

 

[Bravo]

The Special that aired last night is now available at the link

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...ecial/-/1719314/8800826/-/q2tj6h/-/index.html

 

[fran]

Jane Bashara's slaying: Handyman Gentz also admitted involvement to prosecuto
6:04 PM, February 17, 2012

A handyman not only confessed to his role in the slaying of Jane Bashara during an interview with Grosse Pointe Park police, but also admitted his involvement to an assistant Macomb County prosecutor, it was revealed today.

full article at link ..................... http://www.freep.com/article/201202...g-Gentz-from-seeing-daughter?odyssey=nav|head

 

[lauriej]

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120218/METRO/202180338/Bob-Bashara-faced-child-sex-case-in-1995

Bob Bashara faced child sex case in 1995

According to police reports from 1995, Bashara was threatened by Wayne County prosecutors with a second-degree criminal sexual conduct charge after a young relative of his now late-wife told her parents and investigators Bashara on two occasions caused her to touch his genitals — once while wrestling in his bed and once while she was being spanked in his home.

The girl reported while spanking her, Bashara kept telling her she liked the spanking. An investigator who interviewed the girl wrote, "… and the victim kept struggling and saying that she did not like it. …

"Bob kept telling her over and over, 'Yes you do.'"

 

[MagnoliaMom]

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120218/METRO/202180338/Bob-Bashara-faced-child-sex-case-in-1995

Bob Bashara faced child sex case in 1995

:notgood: :snake: Sounds like he's got friends in high places. Or low places.

 

[Velouria]

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120218/METRO/202180338/Bob-Bashara-faced-child-sex-case-in-1995

Bob Bashara faced child sex case in 1995

Quote:
According to police reports from 1995, Bashara was threatened by Wayne County prosecutors with a second-degree criminal sexual conduct charge after a young relative of his now late-wife told her parents and investigators Bashara on two occasions caused her to touch his genitals — once while wrestling in his bed and once while she was being spanked in his home.

The girl reported while spanking her, Bashara kept telling her she liked the spanking. An investigator who interviewed the girl wrote, "… and the victim kept struggling and saying that she did not like it. …

"Bob kept telling her over and over, 'Yes you do.'"

OMG!:what:

That account certainly fits with what we know of Bob's proclivities, doesn't it?

How on earth did he keep Jane from divorcing his sorry a$$ on the spot?

 

[RubyBlu]

:notgood: :snake: Sounds like he's got friends in high places. Or low places.

Let's not confuse "friends" with "connections". They're polar opposites :twocents:

 

[Bravo]

Oh My :what: What else dont we know :maddening:

 

[angelindisguyz]

Just came across this history on JG.

Back in 1989, Gentz was living on North Avenue near Elizabeth in Clinton Township with another man next to Puglia, whose son had a series of run-ins with him.

In one case, police were called to settle a dispute after Gentz became upset that Puglia’s 15-year-old son, Scott, had shoveled snow too close to the back of Gentz’s home to the point the snow covered parts of the window.

According to a police report, Gentz — who was 25 at the time — grabbed a crowbar, walked over to the Puglia house and began banging on the door, threatening to kill the youngster.

Gentz then went back home and brought his stereo system outside about 9:30 at night and played the music at a high volume as he shoveled the snow back onto Puglia’s property. Police were called and advised the two parties to stay away from each other.

“A few days later, he was out there with a BB gun and shot my son in the face right below the eye,” said Puglia, 63, a retiree. “He shot a bunch of holes into my house. A day or so later, the police came and we heard he was taken to a psychiatric clinic in northern Michigan.”


Full story here http://www.voicenews.com/articles/2012/02/07/news/doc4f312d7675ff7037526210.txt?viewmode=fullstory

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-preve...er-investigation?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next

http://www.examiner.com/crime-preve...tigated-a-child-sex-case-with-a-relative-1995

Two articles covering news from last week - one contains more details regarding the accusations made against bb by the little girl.
It would be interesting to know what the girl has to say today - she would be 21 or 22 by now.

 

[angelindisguyz]

TY for the links. Thar would be interesting to see what she would say now.


Sad to say but I'm thinking bb's statements are about as reliable as kwame's!!

I have to wonder if he will lie under oath as well........