MI - Jesika Kelsey, 17, raped & murdered, Highland Township, 31 Dc 2008

  • #61
I feel the need to comment on them sharing a room. When I was 16, I wanted to move to NH from FL to live with my mom. My father had custody of us since my parents divorced. My brother started college and moved away. Well, my dad decided he would sell his 4 bedroom house to make some money and wanted to buy a foreclosure to fix up and eventually make some money off of that. So, he rented a 2 bedroom condo while he was looking. To make a long story short, I decided to move back home and so did my brother. So, there are now two teenagers and my father having to live in a 2 bedroom. My dad said him and my brother would share a room, but I felt really bad about my father having to share a bedroom so I suggested my brother and I would be in the large master bedroom. We were teenagers so for the most part, we crashed there at night. We had the ability to have privacy since we weren't home together much. There was nothing wrong with it, imo and a few months later my dad bought a new house with 4 bedrooms again. I just wanted to give my perspective since I have experience and feel this sharing the room thing should not have resulted in this monster raping his sister and murdering her. There was obviously something very wrong with him and I doubt them sharing a room had anything to with it.
 
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There is many ways out of boot camp, really not that hard to get out at that point, which has been stated he was on 'leave' from just finishing.

I've come to the conclusion awhile ago during this case, that he is mentally ill.
 
  • #64
I don't think it that odd that Jesika and Steven had to share a room. I'm sure if their mother had any idea something bad was going on she would have never allowed it, and hopefully not allowed him even in the house. In many situations, were money is tight, people can't afford enough bedrooms and you have situations of siblings sharing rooms, even a parent and sibling (mother/daughter; father/son) that may have to share a room together. I have cousins (a brother and sister) that shared a room together until thier teens when she remarried, since it was all their mother could afford. Nothing bad happened, aside from squabbles over privacy and sibling spats.

In this case, i sincerely think Steven had an extreme psychotic break.
 
  • #65
Now don't put me before a firing squad because I have a different opinion but I don't think I could have ever put my teenage son and teenage daughter in the same bedroom together for any reason. I know that my son wouldn't have even thought of having sex with one of his sisters but I think it would have made me really uncomfortable. And I think it would have made them feel the same way. If need be I would have taken the davenport and let the kids have the bedrooms or I would have gotten a roll away bed to put in the frontroom or in the bedroom with the girls. That is just the way I would have felt though.

I agree that there is something terribly wrong with a brother that wants to have sex with his sister and then slits her throat because she won't. I wonder if in their younger years he didn't make her do things that she didn't want to and he thought they could just carry on into their teens years and she had the courage to say no. Regardless it is really creepy and I hope he is locked up for years and years. I wonder how the mom feels about this. What a terrible thing to have happen. If I was in her shoes the boy would be on his own.
 
  • #66
"Accused murderer Steven Kelsey made a brief appearance in Novi's 52-1 District Court Jan. 7 where Judge Robert Bondy granted his request to waive is right to have a preliminary examination within 14 days.
Kelsey's preliminary exam in district court is now set for Feb. 19, allowing his court-appointed attorney Michael McCarthy more time to prepare for the proceedings.
The preliminary exam will be held to determine whether or not there is enough evidence to bring the case to trial."
http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150371/1028
 
  • #67
I don't think it that odd that Jesika and Steven had to share a room. I'm sure if their mother had any idea something bad was going on she would have never allowed it, and hopefully not allowed him even in the house. In many situations, were money is tight, people can't afford enough bedrooms and you have situations of siblings sharing rooms, even a parent and sibling (mother/daughter; father/son) that may have to share a room together. I have cousins (a brother and sister) that shared a room together until their teens when she remarried, since it was all their mother could afford. Nothing bad happened, aside from squabbles over privacy and sibling spats.

In this case, i sincerely think Steven had an extreme psychotic break.

Children have been sleeping together for decades. As many as 7-8 in the same room and both genders there because there was simply no space to put them, other than in the one room.

I have to agree, Meo and who goes around thinking their son cant be trusted with their own sister? I would think, they like most, could never comprehend that her brother would do something like this.

I trust my son explicitly. IMO he was the type of son that could have slept right in the same bed with his sisters and never touched them inappropriately. However I was fortunate that each of our children had their own rooms. To this day our daughters come to him for guidance. They know he is honest, trustworthy, fair and has always given them the utmost respect they deserve.

I think the mother never had a clue this could ever be on his mind. I don't even think this is what spurred this horrible crime. Something in this guy at the time whacked him out. His thinking was bizarre.

We had a double murder a couple of decades ago in my hometown and the son went in and killed both of his parents while they slept in their bed. His sister was also there and when she heard the shotgun go off, she locked herself in her bedroom. He busted the door down and came in and tried to rape her and when she resisted, he shot her too but she lived. There was never any evidence presented that he had tried to sexually assault her before this happened.

Now I don't know what happened to this guy here but the other defendant was on drugs and his parents had cut his money off so he wouldn't be able to buy more.

imo
 
  • #68
Children have been sleeping together for decades. As many as 7-8 in the same room and both genders there because there was simply no space to put them, other than in the one room.

I have to agree, Meo and who goes around thinking their son cant be trusted with their own sister? I would think, they like most, could never comprehend that her brother would do something like this.

I trust my son explicitly. IMO he was the type of son that could have slept right in the same bed with his sisters and never touched them inappropriately. However I was fortunate that each of our children had their own rooms. To this day our daughters come to him for guidance. They know he is honest, trustworthy, fair and has always given them the utmost respect they deserve.

I think the mother never had a clue this could ever be on his mind. I don't even think this is what spurred this horrible crime. Something in this guy at the time whacked him out. His thinking was bizarre.

We had a double murder a couple of decades ago in my hometown and the son went in and killed both of his parents while they slept in their bed. His sister was also there and when she heard the shotgun go off, she locked herself in her bedroom. He busted the door down and came in and tried to rape her and when she resisted, he shot her too but she lived. There was never any evidence presented that he had tried to sexually assault her before this happened.

Now I don't know what happened to this guy here but the other defendant was on drugs and his parents had cut his money off so he wouldn't be able to buy more.

imo

I have to agree with you too, OBE, them sleeping in the same room does not raise any red flags to me either.

I believe he may have had a psychotic episode of some sort.

I feel so sad for this family, such a tragedy.
 
  • #69
Sorta O/T but once when my son was around 13 or so, he and I went to visit my parents for a week. They only had a two bedroom house, so I said my son and I would sleep in the other bed. I don't think there was anything wrong with that, but my dad was VERY uncomfortable and suggested that my son sleep on the couch. I vetoed that idea and DS and I slept together. (that sounds weird, I obviously meant slept in the same bed!). I don't know what my dad was thinking but I thought it was very weird and I was offended. If DS and I slept together all the time, that would be one thing, but this was just a week long vacation.
 
  • #70
Back in the olden days, when houses were smaller and the economy was worse, a lot of families may have had 4 or more children in one room. Same goes for today, i don't think it odd. It just depends on how much space an individual family has and what they can afford. If your a single mom who is struggling and have a son and daughter, and a one bedroom house, then they share a bedroom, the mom sleeps on the couch. The poor mother in this case had no idea that this would happen. Most families that have had brothers & sisters share rooms don't have cases of this. Also we'll hear stories about a brother who had his own room and went into his sister's room to molest her etc. It's about what people can afford and trying to make ends meet. Everyone wants a roof over their children's heads. I have a friend who shared a room with her mother for years in her grandparents' house. It was what could be afforded. While there's always going to be privacy issues, people get changed in the bathroom.
Family friends have a 3 bedroom summer cabin. Sometimes when people are up there, it's packed and children will share a room with their parents. Not to mention bunked out in the living room.

I can only imagine what the poor mother is going through, she probably blaming herself, her son is mentally ill, murdered and raped her daughter. My prayers for her and that hopefully she has supportive relatives and a good therapist. I doubt she ever foresaw this happening.
 
  • #71
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20090320/NEWS11/90319010

snipped from article:

Testimony from two Oakland County Sheriff’s deputies and the county’s chief medical examiner was enough to convince 52-1 District Judge Robert Bondy that Steven Kelsey, 19, should stand trial on charges that he fatally stabbed his younger sister and then raped her in their Highland Township home on New Year’s Day...

...Kelsey is scheduled to be arraigned April 1 in Oakland County Circuit Court before Judge Edward Sosnick, who will preside over the trial. He's charged first-degree, premeditated murder and committing murder during commission of a felony, second-degree criminal sexual assault.

This is a two page article. It's very informative.
 
  • #72
OMG :eek:
 
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im still utterly lost as to 'why?"
 

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