MI MI - Jessica Heeringa, 25, Norton Shores, 26 April 2013 #2

[LotusPawprint]

Time stamp is 22:46 on the mini-van video here:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-he...olice-911-call/story?id=19073171#.UYCBFbU3uSo

The time stamp is wrong. Noted in one of the articles or press release from Norton Shores PD.

 

[Kaliste]

The van was seen behind the store around the time that Heeringa went missing.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...o-suspect-van-article-1.1331465#ixzz2S0RuTnFL

Have you checked out thread #1? Lots of discussion on each of these articles. Thanks for bumping them though

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Family of Jessica Heeringa remains hopeful: 'We will find her and we will bring her home'

“We’ve been told it will be a small tip that will lead to solving this,” Homrich said.

Shelly Heeringa, Jessica's mother, said she has been trying to stay strong and has not lost hope.

“I’m hanging in there, take it one day at a time, an hour at a time,” Shelly said. “I can’t express all the support we have had. The only people who aren’t (supportive) are the people from Exxon.”

http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2013/04/family_of_jessica_heeringa_rem.html

Bless this mother's heart... :hug:

and I bet this Exxon owner wishes he were in another line of business right about now! :furious:

JMO

 

[Wondergirl]

Watch the searchers and watch the people at the vigils folks.

Perp could be there.

 

[Teche]

Along with the distinctive 'do' he seems to have overly waxed eyebrows. Note to self: brows need to have a slight arch!

 

[iluvmua]

The drawing looks like LLL and he's around the same age and height range that the perp is.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I know this seems moot .But I still have high hopes for her. The kidnapper might think twice about hurting her if he knows that there are literally millions watching his face all over the news and that the whole State of Michigan is going to come down on his filthy behind. (PG version) The smart thing to do would be to drop her off safely and turn himself in.

And... I still have hopes that it was someone that Jessica knew... Or was acquainted with... And the sentimental factor on the part of the creep would be keeping her alive...

lease:

 

[princessk]

I would absolutely be bambazzled if all these RSO's you guys have been talking about have not been looked into already! Do you really think police have not checked them out already?

 

[WideOpen]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-he...olice-911-call/story?id=19073171#.UYCBFbU3uSo

An employee at a store adjacent to the gas station saw the 25-year-old mother there only hours before she vanished last Friday night. The witness watched a man in a silver minivan approach Heeringa when she was at a gas pump.

This new witness who describes the encounter is most likely where the sketch artist gets the details we had been questioning earlier. They go on to recount the conversation so they must have been fairly close to the person in the silver/gray minivan.
The new witness is described as a "he".

jmo

 

[epiphany]

Along with the distinctive 'do' he seems to have overly waxed eyebrows. Note to self: brows need to have a slight arch!

Yes, appears his eyebrows are waxed and shaped. Several unique features all on the one facial composite.

Agree with WideOpen ^^. Witness had a close view of the driver.

 

[dillysmom11]

I would absolutely be bambazzled if all these RSO's you guys have been talking about have not been looked into already! Do you really think police have not checked them out already?

I would certainly hope so, but that doesn't stop the discussion here . One of our amazing sleuthers turned in a tip regarding an RSO yesterday (or was that this morning)?

 

[Flutterby80]

I would absolutely be bambazzled if all these RSO's you guys have been talking about have not been looked into already! Do you really think police have not checked them out already?

I would hope so, but haven't we read cases before where the police checked out someone but couldn't find them or somehow managed to have the victim without the police finding him/her?

I am losing faith in Muskegon County when I see that a level 3 sex offender, who is on active probation, is registered at an address right by an elementary school.

 

[princessk]

I would certainly hope so, but that doesn't stop the discussion here . One of our amazing sleuthers turned in a tip regarding an RSO yesterday (or was that this morning)?

It was last night, and the guy was way too thin...

 

[WideOpen]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-he...olice-911-call/story?id=19073171#.UYCBFbU3uSo

Police investigating the disappearance of Jessica Heeringa have now released a sketch of the man they are looking for, while an eyewitness tells ABC News that another man who approached the gas station attendant the night she vanished was "being real flirty" with her.

I can not tell from the way this article is written if this quoted eyewitness recounts of a second man earlier in the evening and not the "sketch" of the man released.

jmo

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

My money is on DWG, and I'd like to know how the witness got a close enough view to notice his right nostril is larger than the left.

I know the tip has already been called in, I hope whomever it was is arrested before morning.

Just a guess at how the witness got close enough to see the one larger nostril...

maybe the witness has seen this guy before... Up closer... Then saw him again on the night of the disappearance of Jessica?

:dunno:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

So now we know he was out of jail when Jessica was kidnapped

The prison system sure doesn't make it easy for someone to find out the the status of these people. Plus, the mugshots have booking numbers but those don't seem to bring any pertinent information up. What good are they?

In another case I learned that the RSO mugshots and jail/prison information isn't connected (as far as communications) in any way. Notice how L's mugshot says latest update July 2012. He was arrested in August 2012 and again in November 2012 (for aggravated assault, disorderly person-jostling, and parole violation). He had been picked up for a parole violation in August and was out already in November! His arse should be in jail. It's unbelievable what these perps continue to get away with and people can't easily find out about their whereabouts. How's that protecting the public?

About the FB thing, they can easily set up a FB page (I think) and just participate until they get caught. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a protective system in place and I'm not sure when they're caught violating the rule (maybe that's what he did last August) what the punishment is. Proof these perverts are on FB. It should be easy to find out his status and it's not.

Even if this isn't the perp in this case, this guy is bad news. He sure looks like the sketch and seems to love, love, love, the colors red and orange!

With technology why hasn't a system been designed to connect the dots of where these people currently are, if they've been released, etc.
Oh and Federal prisons don't connect to state prisons either. So if someone has a history in a state prison, gets out and ends up in a Federal prison, there's no chain of history linking their jail/state/federal prison record. Looking at one slice of it isn't the whole story on the criminal - it may be but there's no way to know. Because there are all different levels of sex offenders and different reasons they end up on the lists/registrations.

It's 2013 - man went to the moon in 1969, computers have been around for, what, twenty-five years now? The system sucks. It should connect and it should be easy for a citizen to access the information.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I would absolutely be bambazzled if all these RSO's you guys have been talking about have not been looked into already! Do you really think police have not checked them out already?

It took them 36 hours to classify her disappearance as an abduction and it can take a while. There are loads of RSO's and taking time to account for their whereabouts can be a process. It's part of every criminal investigation to look at RSO's so I'm sure they were looking at them early on. Not soon enough though.

 

[epiphany]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-he...olice-911-call/story?id=19073171#.UYCBFbU3uSo

Police investigating the disappearance of Jessica Heeringa have now released a sketch of the man they are looking for, while an eyewitness tells ABC News that another man who approached the gas station attendant the night she vanished was "being real flirty" with her.

I can not tell from the way this article is written if this quoted eyewitness recounts of a second man earlier in the evening and not the "sketch" of the man released.

jmo

Unsure, but sketch is of the man in the van...unique facial composite>witness appears to have been close. MOO

The man who flirted with Jessica may have been a different male.

Hopefully, will clarify soon.

 

[princessk]

It took them 36 hours to classify her disappearance as an abduction and it can take a while. There are loads of RSO's and taking time to account for their whereabouts can be a process. It's part of every criminal investigation to look at RSO's so I'm sure they were looking at them early on. Not soon enough though.

I agree, I guess my point is that if they have not thoroughly looked into these RSO's that are that close to the Exxon, then they need to give up their positions and give them to Websleuths...because that would be some really BAD police investigation work.

 

[Flutterby80]

The prison system sure doesn't make it easy for someone to find out the the status of these people. Plus, the mugshots have booking numbers but those don't seem to bring any pertinent information up. What good are they?

In another case I learned that the RSO mugshots and jail/prison information isn't connected (as far as communications) in any way. Notice how L's mugshot says latest update July 2012. He was arrested in August 2012 and again in November 2012 (for aggravated assault, disorderly person-jostling, and parole violation). He had been picked up for a parole violation in August and was out already in November! His arse should be in jail. It's unbelievable what these perps continue to get away with and people can't easily find out about their whereabouts. How's that protecting the public?

About the FB thing, they can easily set up a FB page (I think) and just participate until they get caught. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a protective system in place and I'm not sure when they're caught violating the rule (maybe that's what he did last August) what the punishment is. Proof these perverts are on FB. It should be easy to find out his status and it's not.

Even if this isn't the perp in this case, this guy is bad news. He sure looks like the sketch and seems to love, love, love, the colors red and orange!

With technology why hasn't a system been designed to connect the dots of where these people currently are, if they've been released, etc.
Oh and Federal prisons don't connect to state prisons either. So if someone has a history in a state prison, gets out and ends up in a Federal prison, there's no chain of history linking their jail/state/federal prison record. Looking at one slice of it isn't the whole story on the criminal - it may be but there's no way to know. Because there are all different levels of sex offenders and different reasons they end up on the lists/registrations.

It's 2013 - man went to the moon in 1969, computers have been around for, what, twenty-five years now? The system sucks. It should connect and it should be easy for a citizen to access the information.

FB could very well be the probation violation that sent him back to jail. I will tell you that the Muskegon County Jail is extremely overcrowded. People get sentenced, show up on their supposed incarceration date only to be told we are full, come back in 6 weeks. And this happens multiple times in some cases. Seriously, you have to either be pretty extreme or pretty unfortunate to do steady time in Muskegon County.