MI MI - Jessica Heeringa, 25, Norton Shores, 26 April 2013 #7

[JoCoKSEyes]

How could Jessica predict at 10:00 that she'd be able to finish her chores and leave right at closing time? :waitasec:

Almost as if she knew she would be taking off.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Almost as if she knew she would be taking off.

 

[Roselvr]

The time of the call - 10:00, Dakota asking Jessica how work was going, and Jessica responding that she thought that she'd be able to leave promptly at 11:30 is what has always been baffling about that night. People who work a late shift, folks coming home after an evening out, etc. might stop for gas or a soda on their way home and would expect the Exxon station to be open until 11:30. How could Jessica predict at 10:00 that she'd be able to finish her chores and leave right at closing time? :waitasec:

I went back & looked at the Media, Map Links post; did not see where he called her. I wanted to see the wording he used. Does anyone remember when it was?

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[Treelights]

I went back & looked at the Media, Map Links post; did not see where he called her. I wanted to see the wording he used. Does anyone remember when it was?

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-he...ion-attendant-knew-abductor/story?id=19065157

At 56 seconds in the video Dakotah says...
"I talked to her an hour before this happened. Said she was gonna be out early and home quick."

The news reporter states that Dakotah talked to Jessica between 10pm and 10:15pm.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I wonder if it was usual for Dakota to call Jessica at work. There must be times when the Exxon station gets busy and a single attendant wouldn't be able to take a personal call. DH and I have been married for 42 years, and I rarely call him at the office unless it is an emergency. Also, in recent years, if I do call him, I call his cell and not the office phone, and once in a while, we exchange emails during the day.

 

[Roselvr]

Family Of Jessica Heeringa Searching For Answers 04/28/13 Shelly Heeringa said her daughter is the kind of person that would help anyone, always smiling. Her family says she has a lot she still wants to do. She is working towards going to college and has dreams of being an accountant. “Right now, she was just at this job to support her and her little boy and her family. Her boyfriend had recently been laid off, so she was taking on extra shifts, and trying to do what she could.”

timeline of her disappearance
Friday, April 26, 2013, (approx) 10:15 to 10:30 p.m.: Jesse Ammerman (a regular customer who "knows Jessica well") Was at the Exxon station. Has been "cleared" as a person of interest. He reportedly took a polygraph test. He did not see a silver minivan or the suspect in the sketch. May be one of the last people to see her.

Friday, April 26, 2013, 10: 46 p.m., silver car/minivan captured on surveillance of nearby business. This is believed to be the minivan (Chrysler Town & Country) involved in the kidnapping of the missing woman.

Friday, April 26, 2013, 10: 51 p.m.,: Jessica makes her last transaction. The customer associated with this transaction has been cleared -- according to Ann Marie LaFlamme

Friday, April 26, 2013: 11:04 p.m.,: Second bit of surveillance footage from another business shows van.

Friday, April 26, 2013: 11:07 p.m.,: Customer arrives to find store empty, calls 911 after briefly looking around/calling out.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jessica-he...ion-attendant-knew-abductor/story?id=19065157

At 56 seconds in the video Dakotah says...
"I talked to her an hour before this happened. Said she was gonna be out early and home quick."

The news reporter states that Dakotah talked to Jessica between 10pm and 10:15pm.

Thanks; I take it to mean she was able to do her closing chores due to work not being busy which meant she would get to close on time & be out quick. Of course this is assuming things stayed slow.

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[Treelights]

In this video at the link below, CH, the 911 caller said that there were about 6 customers that came after he initially showed up at the Exxon, and he told those people not to go into the store because the police were on the way.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/muskegon_county/jessica-heeringa-abduction-911-call

In the article attached to the same link above,

"He said he arrived at the gas station at 11:07 p.m. Friday. He tried to pump some gas, but that had to be authorized by a clerk. He looked around the station for the attendant -- Heeringa -- who he had often seen cleaning around the time he was there. After seeing a purse, coat and cigarettes, he had a "gut feeling something bad happened." "


This article says that he had often seen her cleaning around the time he was there.
He gets out of work at 11pm, so perhaps he usually showed up at 11:07pm 3 to 4 times a week, as perhaps it takes him 7 minutes from his job to the Exxon station.
Well, if she is usually cleaning at 11:07 pm, it just sounds odd to me that Dakotah would say that she was "gonna get out early and home quick". It sounds like that night was Different to me, like she was going to get out earlier than usual, because if not, he would have no need to say that statement. Then he could have said, she was going to get out the usual time, but he didn't say that.(Why say it at all??) If her cleaning habits were always the same as CH had seen on his 3 to 4 times a week stops at the Exxon station, then there would be no need for Dakotah to say she was going to be out early and home quick, as that would have been a "normal" night for her......
and as we all know, it ended up being not a normal night at all. IMOO.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't know if we ought to take her BF' s words so literally...he may have been intending to relay that that from what she told him, she would be home as per usual and had no reason to think she would be running late. His wording is weird, but I really don't think it means anything more than he was trying to say it was a normal night as far as she was concerned. JMO

ETA. Most people would have have no idea how we at WS break down sentences and syllables, seeking meaning or clues in every utterance, lol...

 

[Treelights]

http://fox17online.com/2013/08/03/s...mily-optimistic-100-days-later/#axzz2axgSc8oD

The family believes Jessica is still alive.
Jessica's mom believes if she was killed her body would have been found already.

 

[Treelights]

Having hope is a wonderful thing, but I find that to be an interesting comment that because they haven't found her body she must be alive.....well, if nobody is searching for Jessica, how can they find a body anyway??
IMOO.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Having hope is a wonderful thing, but I find that to be an interesting comment that because they haven't found her body she must be alive.....well, if nobody is searching for Jessica, how can they find a body anyway??
IMOO.

LE officials frequently say that a victim is still believed to be alive when there no evidence to indicate otherwise. Perhaps Jessica's family is taking their cue from LE because they've suggested this more than once in regard to JH's disappearance. :moo:

 

[cluciano63]

Well if the family truly believes she is alive, why aren't they hounding the media every single day, getting online, making some noise, etc.? Surely if she IS alive, she is likely not in a good situation and needs rescuing. So why so quiet?

 

[Flutterby80]

I would LOVE to know what wzzm's private eye has turned up. Was it wzzm?

 

[goldenbear]

:seeya::seeya:

Having hope is a wonderful thing, but I find that to be an interesting comment that because they haven't found her body she must be alive.....well, if nobody is searching for Jessica, how can they find a body anyway??
IMOO.

Early in the disappearance a local trained search group was searching for Jessica. If one of thewebsleuths can find their name, contact number, email,whatever I wil;l contact them (more than once) to see if searches can be restarted.:thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave::thewave:

 

[Treelights]

I would LOVE to know what wzzm's private eye has turned up. Was it wzzm?

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/...months-private-investigator-reveals-new-clues

This video about the licensed private investigator was at 54 days that Jessica was missing.
The investigator mentions that there was no crime scene tape, so I think that is part of the reason why Chief Shaw is not happy with this investigator, because from what she said, it paints the Norton Shores Police Dept. in a bad light. IMOO.

There is an article with this video.

 

[Strangeworld]

I really wonder if she intended to leave early because someone had offered to do the close for her? Maybe (not pointing any fingers) a certain someone had offered to close, so Jessica could leave early, for whatever reason. If she heard a knock on the back door, she may be more inclined to answer it if she was expecting someone. She then could have been abducted.

Of course, this could mean either someone she knows is involved in her disappearance, or a random coincidence.

I'd love to know if Jessica was the sort of employee who would close early without her boss knowing. From what I've read so far, it doesn't seem like she would do this. But if she had been working lots of shifts, was exhausted, and couldn't be bothered staying open, maybe she intended to close up early.

I'm really dumbfounded there is no more news on Jessica - and it's so sad that the news just moves onto the next missing person. Hope she is found soon.

 

[Flutterby80]

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/...months-private-investigator-reveals-new-clues

This video about the licensed private investigator was at 54 days that Jessica was missing.
The investigator mentions that there was no crime scene tape, so I think that is part of the reason why Chief Shaw is not happy with this investigator, because from what she said, it paints the Norton Shores Police Dept. in a bad light. IMOO.

There is an article with this video.

Thank you for this link. It is worth everyone reading again, as there are many new comments. Someone even outed mom's bf on here.

 

[Treelights]

I really wonder if she intended to leave early because someone had offered to do the close for her? Maybe (not pointing any fingers) a certain someone had offered to close, so Jessica could leave early, for whatever reason. If she heard a knock on the back door, she may be more inclined to answer it if she was expecting someone. She then could have been abducted.

Of course, this could mean either someone she knows is involved in her disappearance, or a random coincidence.

I'd love to know if Jessica was the sort of employee who would close early without her boss knowing. From what I've read so far, it doesn't seem like she would do this. But if she had been working lots of shifts, was exhausted, and couldn't be bothered staying open, maybe she intended to close up early.

I'm really dumbfounded there is no more news on Jessica - and it's so sad that the news just moves onto the next missing person. Hope she is found soon.

And I was thinking that maybe someone wasn't going to close For her, but With her. That would explain the cash drawer left out, in Addition to the cleaning supplies left out. If it happened That way, then definitely there is somebody that knows More than what they are saying, or Omitting some of what they Should Say to LE. IMOO.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

And I was thinking that maybe someone wasn't going to close For her, but With her. That would explain the cash drawer left out, in Addition to the cleaning supplies left out. If it happened That way, then definitely there is somebody that knows More than what they are saying, or Omitting some of what they Should Say to LE. IMOO.

I'm still baffled by the fact that another employee of the gas station just happened to drive by just in time to possibly witness her colleague, Jessica Heeringa, being abducted but chose to sit and watch what was going on instead of stopping at the Exxon station to make sure that Jessica was alright. THAT strikes me as being very peculiar. Not to mention, also, that this individual provides the description of the silver minivan and the POI that everyone has been looking for since the night that Jessica was "abducted".

I can't speak for everyone here, but there is something going on here that isn't right. "It ain't fittin'. It ain't fittin'. It just ain't fittin'." (Hattie McDaniel in Gone With the Wind.) :moo:

 

[Treelights]

I'm still baffled by the fact that another employee of the gas station just happened to drive by just in time to possibly witness her colleague, Jessica Heeringa, being abducted but chose to sit and watch what was going on instead of stopping at the Exxon station to make sure that Jessica was alright. THAT strikes me as being very peculiar. Not to mention, also, that this individual provides the description of the silver minivan and the POI that everyone has been looking for since the night that Jessica was "abducted".

I can't speak for everyone here, but there is something going on here that isn't right. "It ain't fittin'. It ain't fittin'. It just ain't fittin'." (Hattie McDaniel in Gone With the Wind.) :moo:

Right,with the witness Knowing Jessica, I find it strange as well that it wasn't reported immediately. A stranger might not know the lights were supposed to be on in the back, a stranger might not know the details about the ins and outs of the Exxon station and protocol and the people working there, but with a person Knowing Jessica and knowing that she worked there and also worked there herself, it is very peculiar indeed! Then nobody can locate the van or person driving?? But yet the witness gave a ten out of ten sketch of the driver?? Yuppers, it just ain't fittin'!!