GUILTY MI - Robert Cipriano, 52, beaten to death, Farmington Hills, 16 April 2012
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Assistant Prosecutor John Skrzynski is rattling off a list of items taken into evidence including two bats, a BB gun, rubber gloves and multiple DNA samples.
by Gina Damron 1:39 PM
Skrzynski said latent fingerprints were taken from the garage at the Cipriano house. Prior testimony indicated that Tucker Cipriano, with help from friend Ian Zinderman, twice broke into the garage before the attack.
by Gina Damron 1:43 PM
Tucker Cipriano pleaded no contest to felony murder. He will be sentenced next month.
by Gina Damron 1:43 PM
by Gina Damron 1:39 PM
Skrzynski said latent fingerprints were taken from the garage at the Cipriano house. Prior testimony indicated that Tucker Cipriano, with help from friend Ian Zinderman, twice broke into the garage before the attack.
by Gina Damron 1:43 PM
Tucker Cipriano pleaded no contest to felony murder. He will be sentenced next month.
by Gina Damron 1:43 PM
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One is taking notes, one is doodling
Are DT supposed to be doodling during testimony? :floorlaugh: I thought they were required to pay attention.
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States witness Andrea Young, MSP DNA Analyst
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No more questions for Young. We're on a 10 minute break.
by Gina Damron 3:28 PM
McCarthy has more questions.
by Gina Damron 3:23 PM
The swabs from the hands of Rose and Salvatore came back with no DNA foreign to them, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:23 PM
Young said her crime lab receives evidence to analyze from roughly 200 policing agencies.
by Gina Damron 3:22 PM
When examining property, such as clothing, it is not unusual to find that person's DNA on their own clothing, Young said.
by Gina Damron 3:20 PM
When getting evidence from a crime scene with lots of blood and multiple victims, it is common to find many samples with mixtures of DNA, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:19 PM
She said that sample was a match to Robert Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 3:17 PM
Young testified that the sample from the bat was labeled as "possible blood stain."
by Gina Damron 3:17 PM
Skrzynski is asking about Robert Cipriano's blood on the Easton bat.
by Gina Damron 3:16 PM
The samples coming to her for purposes of DNA analysis, when they are labeled as possible blood stain, they have already undergone chemical test and come back positive, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:16 PM
When doing testing for the presense of blood, Young testified a chemical test can be done. In the presense of blood, the test will change color, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM
Skrzynski is asking more questions.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM
One sample from Mitchell Young was put into the Combined DNA Index System, Young testified. She had a sample from a glove that was not mixed with anyone else's DNA, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM
Now we're back to the BB gun and Quest bat. Young said both matched to Salvatore and a sample from the BB gun matched to Robert Cipriano. The blood found on the door frame, the major DNA types matched to Robert Cipriano, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:09 PM
McCarthy is now asking about hand swabs taken from Rose Cipriano. Young testified there was no foreign DNA found in her hand swabs.
by Gina Damron 3:06 PM
Mitchell Young's own blood is on his pants? McCarthy asked
"Yes," Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:04 PM
Young: DNA types that could be attributed to Mitchell Young were present enough that she could not exclude him.
by Gina Damron 3:03 PM
Young: On Mitchell Young's pants, there is a match to Robert Cipriano. Mitchell Young could not be excluded.
by Gina Damron 3:03 PM
The blood from Mitchell Young's face was all his blood, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:02 PM
"I did not say it's a match," Young said of Mitchell to the knife. "Following my interpretational guidelines, I cannot say that it is a match."
by Gina Damron 3:00 PM
Young: She could not exclude Mitchell Young from the knife.
by Gina Damron 2:59 PM
McCarthy is now asking about a blood stain from the blade of the knife found in the house.
by Gina Damron 2:59 PM
Young: She found no DNA foreign to Robert Cipriano on his fingernail clippings.
by Gina Damron 2:58 PM
In the final analysis, Robert Cipriano was excluded from DNA found on the gloves, Young testified.
"Robert Cipriano, no blood at all, correct?" McCarthy asked.
"Correct," Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:57 PM
A major donor, Young testified, contributes more DNA. When there is more than one donor, that's why she sometimes can't exclude people, Young said.
by Gina Damron 2:55 PM
The testimony being given is pretty technical. Young is explaining how she came to her conclusions when examining the gloves.
by Gina Damron 2:53 PM
The gloves may have been turned inside out when they were removed, she said.
by Gina Damron 2:48 PM
On the gloves, Mitchell Young's DNA was found, Young, the DNA expert, testified.
by Gina Damron 2:48 PM
Young: She examined three blood samples from the barrel of the bat. Robert Cipriano's DNA was found.
by Gina Damron 2:44 PM
Young: Rose was the major donor on the handle of the Easton bat. Mitchell Young could not be excluded.
by Gina Damron 2:43 PM
Michael McCarthy, Mitchell Young's attorney, is cross examining.
by Gina Damron 2:42 PM
On the Easton bat handle, Young said she could not exclude Salvatore, Rose and Young.
by Gina Damron 2:41 PM
Salvatore's DNA was also found on a portion of the BB gun, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:35 PM
On the BB gun, the major DNA types matched Robert Cipriano, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:34 PM
Young: Robert Cipriano's profile was not found on the Quest bat and neither was Mitchell Young's
by Gina Damron 2:33 PM
Young: Robert Cipriano was excluded from the samples found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:32 PM
Young: She had three samples from the bat. Salvatore and Rose's DNA was found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:31 PM
Another bat, found on the landing leading to the basement in the Cipriano home, also had blood on it.
by Gina Damron 2:30 PM
Young: A blood sample taken from a doorframe leading out to the patio at the Cipriano home matched to at least three donors. The major DNA types matched Robert Cipriano and Rose Cipriano could not be excluded.
by Gina Damron 2:29 PM
On shoes found in the Keego Harbor home, Young testified, DNA matched to Rose Cipriano and Salvatore Cipriano could not be excluded. Robert Ciprianoo was excluded, she said.
by Gina Damron 2:28 PM
Salvatore's DNA also matched to a sample on the jeans, she testified. Young said Robert Cipriano, who was killed in the attack, was excluded from DNA found on Tucker's shirt and jeans and the washcloth found in the Keego Harbor home.
by Gina Damron 2:27 PM
On Tucker Cipriano's jeans, Young testified, DNA matched to Rose Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:26 PM
On a washcloth found in the home, where Tucker Cipriano went after the attack, the DNA matched to Salvatore Cipriano, Young testified. Blood on a shirt found in the Keego Harbor home matched at least three donors, with the major DNA types matching Salvatore Cipriano, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:25 PM
Young, the DNA expert, is now testifying about clothing found in the home in Keego Harbor.
by Gina Damron 2:23 PM
Tucker Cipriano was excluded from DNA on a knife found in the home; Mitchell Young was not, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:22 PM
An image of the bloody bat is being shown in court. Young testified that Tucker Cipriano's DNA was not found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:20 PM
Young: Robert Cipriano's DNA was also found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:19 PM
Young: On the Easton bat, Salvatore Cipriano's DNA was also found.
by Gina Damron 2:19 PM
Analyzed blood on the baseball bat. Young testified that the major donor found in the DNA on the bat was Rose Cipriano. Tucker Cipriano is excluded from being a donor to the bat handle; Mitchell Young is not, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:18 PM
It is "possible" Mitchell Young's DNA was on a knife found in the home, Young, the DNA expert testified. She said he could not be excluded as a donor.
by Gina Damron 2:16 PM
Salvatore Cipriano's blood was on the rubber gloves found in the master bedroom of the Cipriano home.
by Gina Damron 2:15 PM
As to swabs taken from the blood on Mitchell's hands, on both hands the DNA was a mixture of from Mitchell and two others, with the major donor being Salvatore Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:12 PM
Young testified that blood on Mitchell's sweatshirt belonged to Rose Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:08 PM
As to the blood on Mitchell's pants, Young testified that the blood matched three donors. The major types match the profile of Robert Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:09 PM
Young testified she did DNA analysis on the evidence she was given.
by Gina Damron 2:07 PM
Images of evidence, including the bats, were also shown.
by Gina Damron 2:06 PM
Since we have two people with the last name Young here, I'm going to call Mitchell Young just MItchell for now.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM
Young, the analysis expert, said she was given Young's pants and sweatshirt and swabs from his hands.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM
Back to the DNA analysis expert's testimony, she testified that she looked at Young's clothing. An image of Young at Botsford Hospital after the attack is being shown.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM
Young: When she is processing each of the known samples, everything is run separate but concurrent.
by Gina Damron 2:02 PM
Young: She had DNA samples from members the Cipriano family, as well as known samples from Tucker Cipriano and Mitchell Young.
by Gina Damron 2:01 PM
Young said that, depending on the surface type, an area will be swabbed or, in some cases, such as clothing, a piece could be cut off.
by Gina Damron 2:00 PM
Young is explaining the process of DNA testing.
by Gina Damron 1:56 PM
Everyone except for identical twins have different DNA, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 1:54 PM
Young said she looks at areas of DNA known to differ among individuals and compares to known profiles.
by Gina Damron 1:53 PM
MSP crime lab is accredited, Young said.
by Gina Damron 1:51 PM
Andrea Young, a DNA analysis expert with the Michigan State Police, is testifying.
by Gina Damron 1:48 PM
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No more questions for Young. We're on a 10 minute break.
by Gina Damron 3:28 PM
McCarthy has more questions.
by Gina Damron 3:23 PM
The swabs from the hands of Rose and Salvatore came back with no DNA foreign to them, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:23 PM
Young said her crime lab receives evidence to analyze from roughly 200 policing agencies.
by Gina Damron 3:22 PM
When examining property, such as clothing, it is not unusual to find that person's DNA on their own clothing, Young said.
by Gina Damron 3:20 PM
When getting evidence from a crime scene with lots of blood and multiple victims, it is common to find many samples with mixtures of DNA, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:19 PM
She said that sample was a match to Robert Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 3:17 PM
Young testified that the sample from the bat was labeled as "possible blood stain."
by Gina Damron 3:17 PM
Skrzynski is asking about Robert Cipriano's blood on the Easton bat.
by Gina Damron 3:16 PM
The samples coming to her for purposes of DNA analysis, when they are labeled as possible blood stain, they have already undergone chemical test and come back positive, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:16 PM
When doing testing for the presense of blood, Young testified a chemical test can be done. In the presense of blood, the test will change color, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM
Skrzynski is asking more questions.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM
One sample from Mitchell Young was put into the Combined DNA Index System, Young testified. She had a sample from a glove that was not mixed with anyone else's DNA, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:15 PM
Now we're back to the BB gun and Quest bat. Young said both matched to Salvatore and a sample from the BB gun matched to Robert Cipriano. The blood found on the door frame, the major DNA types matched to Robert Cipriano, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:09 PM
McCarthy is now asking about hand swabs taken from Rose Cipriano. Young testified there was no foreign DNA found in her hand swabs.
by Gina Damron 3:06 PM
Mitchell Young's own blood is on his pants? McCarthy asked
"Yes," Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:04 PM
Young: DNA types that could be attributed to Mitchell Young were present enough that she could not exclude him.
by Gina Damron 3:03 PM
Young: On Mitchell Young's pants, there is a match to Robert Cipriano. Mitchell Young could not be excluded.
by Gina Damron 3:03 PM
The blood from Mitchell Young's face was all his blood, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 3:02 PM
"I did not say it's a match," Young said of Mitchell to the knife. "Following my interpretational guidelines, I cannot say that it is a match."
by Gina Damron 3:00 PM
Young: She could not exclude Mitchell Young from the knife.
by Gina Damron 2:59 PM
McCarthy is now asking about a blood stain from the blade of the knife found in the house.
by Gina Damron 2:59 PM
Young: She found no DNA foreign to Robert Cipriano on his fingernail clippings.
by Gina Damron 2:58 PM
In the final analysis, Robert Cipriano was excluded from DNA found on the gloves, Young testified.
"Robert Cipriano, no blood at all, correct?" McCarthy asked.
"Correct," Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:57 PM
A major donor, Young testified, contributes more DNA. When there is more than one donor, that's why she sometimes can't exclude people, Young said.
by Gina Damron 2:55 PM
The testimony being given is pretty technical. Young is explaining how she came to her conclusions when examining the gloves.
by Gina Damron 2:53 PM
The gloves may have been turned inside out when they were removed, she said.
by Gina Damron 2:48 PM
On the gloves, Mitchell Young's DNA was found, Young, the DNA expert, testified.
by Gina Damron 2:48 PM
Young: She examined three blood samples from the barrel of the bat. Robert Cipriano's DNA was found.
by Gina Damron 2:44 PM
Young: Rose was the major donor on the handle of the Easton bat. Mitchell Young could not be excluded.
by Gina Damron 2:43 PM
Michael McCarthy, Mitchell Young's attorney, is cross examining.
by Gina Damron 2:42 PM
On the Easton bat handle, Young said she could not exclude Salvatore, Rose and Young.
by Gina Damron 2:41 PM
Salvatore's DNA was also found on a portion of the BB gun, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:35 PM
On the BB gun, the major DNA types matched Robert Cipriano, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:34 PM
Young: Robert Cipriano's profile was not found on the Quest bat and neither was Mitchell Young's
by Gina Damron 2:33 PM
Young: Robert Cipriano was excluded from the samples found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:32 PM
Young: She had three samples from the bat. Salvatore and Rose's DNA was found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:31 PM
Another bat, found on the landing leading to the basement in the Cipriano home, also had blood on it.
by Gina Damron 2:30 PM
Young: A blood sample taken from a doorframe leading out to the patio at the Cipriano home matched to at least three donors. The major DNA types matched Robert Cipriano and Rose Cipriano could not be excluded.
by Gina Damron 2:29 PM
On shoes found in the Keego Harbor home, Young testified, DNA matched to Rose Cipriano and Salvatore Cipriano could not be excluded. Robert Ciprianoo was excluded, she said.
by Gina Damron 2:28 PM
Salvatore's DNA also matched to a sample on the jeans, she testified. Young said Robert Cipriano, who was killed in the attack, was excluded from DNA found on Tucker's shirt and jeans and the washcloth found in the Keego Harbor home.
by Gina Damron 2:27 PM
On Tucker Cipriano's jeans, Young testified, DNA matched to Rose Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:26 PM
On a washcloth found in the home, where Tucker Cipriano went after the attack, the DNA matched to Salvatore Cipriano, Young testified. Blood on a shirt found in the Keego Harbor home matched at least three donors, with the major DNA types matching Salvatore Cipriano, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:25 PM
Young, the DNA expert, is now testifying about clothing found in the home in Keego Harbor.
by Gina Damron 2:23 PM
Tucker Cipriano was excluded from DNA on a knife found in the home; Mitchell Young was not, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:22 PM
An image of the bloody bat is being shown in court. Young testified that Tucker Cipriano's DNA was not found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:20 PM
Young: Robert Cipriano's DNA was also found on the bat.
by Gina Damron 2:19 PM
Young: On the Easton bat, Salvatore Cipriano's DNA was also found.
by Gina Damron 2:19 PM
Analyzed blood on the baseball bat. Young testified that the major donor found in the DNA on the bat was Rose Cipriano. Tucker Cipriano is excluded from being a donor to the bat handle; Mitchell Young is not, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 2:18 PM
It is "possible" Mitchell Young's DNA was on a knife found in the home, Young, the DNA expert testified. She said he could not be excluded as a donor.
by Gina Damron 2:16 PM
Salvatore Cipriano's blood was on the rubber gloves found in the master bedroom of the Cipriano home.
by Gina Damron 2:15 PM
As to swabs taken from the blood on Mitchell's hands, on both hands the DNA was a mixture of from Mitchell and two others, with the major donor being Salvatore Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:12 PM
Young testified that blood on Mitchell's sweatshirt belonged to Rose Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:08 PM
As to the blood on Mitchell's pants, Young testified that the blood matched three donors. The major types match the profile of Robert Cipriano.
by Gina Damron 2:09 PM
Young testified she did DNA analysis on the evidence she was given.
by Gina Damron 2:07 PM
Images of evidence, including the bats, were also shown.
by Gina Damron 2:06 PM
Since we have two people with the last name Young here, I'm going to call Mitchell Young just MItchell for now.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM
Young, the analysis expert, said she was given Young's pants and sweatshirt and swabs from his hands.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM
Back to the DNA analysis expert's testimony, she testified that she looked at Young's clothing. An image of Young at Botsford Hospital after the attack is being shown.
by Gina Damron 2:05 PM
Young: When she is processing each of the known samples, everything is run separate but concurrent.
by Gina Damron 2:02 PM
Young: She had DNA samples from members the Cipriano family, as well as known samples from Tucker Cipriano and Mitchell Young.
by Gina Damron 2:01 PM
Young said that, depending on the surface type, an area will be swabbed or, in some cases, such as clothing, a piece could be cut off.
by Gina Damron 2:00 PM
Young is explaining the process of DNA testing.
by Gina Damron 1:56 PM
Everyone except for identical twins have different DNA, Young testified.
by Gina Damron 1:54 PM
Young said she looks at areas of DNA known to differ among individuals and compares to known profiles.
by Gina Damron 1:53 PM
MSP crime lab is accredited, Young said.
by Gina Damron 1:51 PM
Andrea Young, a DNA analysis expert with the Michigan State Police, is testifying.
by Gina Damron 1:48 PM
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States witness, Brigitte Lockhart, Oakland County Crime Scene Team
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Court is breaking for the day. Court will resume at 8:30 a.m.
by Gina Damron 4:37 PM
Lockhart said a person could be hit in the head with a bat and not bleed.
by Gina Damron 4:36 PM
McCarthy with a follow up questions. He is asking about the cabinet doors. He said there was cast off on the ceiling, but most of the blood was concentrated low. Lockhart said that was correct. McCarthy asked if there was anything consistent with a person bein struck while standing upright. She said no.
by Gina Damron 4:36 PM
Skrzynski: If hit in the face with a bloody bat, would it cause transfer of blood?
Lockhart: Yes
by Gina Damron 4:35 PM
Lockhart testified that stepping into blood is a contact or transfer stain.
by Gina Damron 4:33 PM
Skrzynski is asking more questions.
by Gina Damron 4:32 PM
McCarthy is asking whether scientifically she knows it is blood on the pants.
"All signs point" to it being blood, but Lockhart testified that she doesn't test it herself. She called it "apparent" blood.
by Gina Damron 4:32 PM
Lockhart: She saw the foyer of the house, where there was a significant amount of blood.
by Gina Damron 4:31 PM
Lockhart: She looked on the bottom of the shoes, where there was apparent blood.
by Gina Damron 4:31 PM
McCarthy is cross examining now.
by Gina Damron 4:30 PM
Lockhart: There is also blood spots on the hood and waistband of Young's sweatshirt.
by Gina Damron 4:30 PM
Lockhart: There were stains on the boots consistent with impact spatter.
by Gina Damron 4:26 PM
Lockhart: Young's shoes had staining on them, as well.
by Gina Damron 4:25 PM
Lockhart: "The pants themselves were the most definitive display of impact spatter" of all the clothing of his she examined.
by Gina Damron 4:24 PM
Lockhart: She looked at other clothing that belonged to Mitchell Young. There were areas with other possible impact spatter.
by Gina Damron 4:23 PM
Lockhart: She found no such pattern on Tucker Cipriano's pants.
by Gina Damron 4:22 PM
Lockhart: "He would be low to the ground," while being beaten, she said of Robert Cipriano, based on the patterns found on the cabinets and Young's pants.
by Gina Damron 4:22 PM
Lockhart: The impact spatter in the kitchen was below three feet.
by Gina Damron 4:21 PM
Lockhart: To be consistent with the staining on the cabinet, it's consistent with the amount of impact pattern on the pants. The spatter would go a short distance. The pants would have been between a foot and inches away from the blood source. He would have been standing above the blood source because the stains go inside of the pant lets.
by Gina Damron 4:21 PM
Lockhart: The stain patterns on Young's pants suggest that the person wearing then was very close to the blood source. Since it goes up the inseam of the paints it's indicative of the spatter coming up the pant legs.
by Gina Damron 4:19 PM
Lockhart: We examined all of the clothing to see if there was anything they could determine about involvement or positioning to determine what happened at the scene.
by Gina Damron 4:18 PM
The attorneys are leaning in, as well, as Lockhart explains to jurors are the other end of the jury box.
by Gina Damron 4:18 PM
Young was looking on, picking at his hands. He was just writing on a piece of paper.
by Gina Damron 4:17 PM
Jurors are leaning in as Lockhart explains how she examined the small stains.
by Gina Damron 4:16 PM
The pants themselves are now being shown to the jury.
by Gina Damron 4:16 PM
Images of Young's pants are being shown. It's hard to see the blood stains because the pants are black, but Lockhart said the stains are concentrated at the bottom of the pant leg and disperse as they go up.
by Gina Damron 4:15 PM
Lockhart: She also looked at Mitchell Young's pants and his shoes. His pants were black and they had a significant amount of staining on them "consistent with impact spatter."
by Gina Damron 4:14 PM
Lockhart: She looked at Tucker Cipriano's pants, examining the lower legs. She did not find impact spatter on his pants.
by Gina Damron 4:14 PM
She was given clothing belonging to several individuals, both the victims and Tucker Cipriano and Mitchell Young.
by Gina Damron 4:13 PM
Lockhart testified she was also asked to examine clothing and footwear.
by Gina Damron 4:12 PM
An image is being shown of the wall near the stairs. Lockhart said there is a cast off stain.
by Gina Damron 4:12 PM
The blood pattern on that cabinet indicates blood has come from a wound or from some sort of pressure, Lockhart said.
by Gina Damron 4:10 PM
An image of another cabinet located near Robert Cipriano's feet shows blood, as well.
by Gina Damron 4:09 PM
"That's a classic, textbook example of what impact spatter looks like," Lockhart said of the blood on the cabinet.
by Gina Damron 4:08 PM
A close up view of the cabinet is being shown. Lockhart is pointing to concentrated staining area and the farther out the blood drops get, they show directionality.
by Gina Damron 4:07 PM
Lockhart: Describing impact spatter, as is seen on the cabinets, display tiny stains and show directionality. Also there is distribution.
by Gina Damron 4:06 PM
To have cast off spatter, there have to be at least two strikes, Lockhart said.
by Gina Damron 4:05 PM
An image of the wooden cabinet in the kitchen, located near Robert Cipriano's head was on the floor, is being shown.
by Gina Damron 4:04 PM
On a cabinet there was impact spatter, she said,
by Gina Damron 4:04 PM
Lockhart: That spatter on the ceiling where circular drops can be seen would indicate that the item that cast off the blood was right below the drop.
by Gina Damron 4:03 PM
The ceiling area with blood was above Robert Cipriano, Lockhart said.
by Gina Damron 4:02 PM
There was blood on the kitchen ceiling, she testified. An image of the blood on the ceiling is being shown.
by Gina Damron 4:02 PM
There was "cast off" blood patterns, which she said is when blood is coming off of an object. The object strikes a source of blood and when the object is drawn back or there is motion, the blood would fly off of the object, Lockhart testified.
by Gina Damron 4:02 PM
Lockhart: She observed Robert Cipriano facedown in the kitchen. There was a large pool of blood near his head. There was blood splatter on cabinets.
by Gina Damron 4:01 PM
The main areas she focused on were on the main leven in the kitchen area, but there were other areas of the house that had blood, Lockhart testified. There was an "extensive" amount of blood in the kitchen, she said.
by Gina Damron 4:00 PM
Lockhart: She and the rest of the crime scene team responded to the Cipriano home on Rose Hill in Farmington Hills.
by Gina Damron 3:58 PM
She has been doing crime scene work since 1996, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:57 PM
Lockhart said she is certified as a blood stain pattern examiner.
by Gina Damron 3:57 PM
Court back in session. Brigid Lockhart, with the Oakland County Sheriff's Office forensic science lab, is testifying. She was with the crime scene team.
by Gina Damron 3:55 PM
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Court is breaking for the day. Court will resume at 8:30 a.m.
by Gina Damron 4:37 PM
Lockhart said a person could be hit in the head with a bat and not bleed.
by Gina Damron 4:36 PM
McCarthy with a follow up questions. He is asking about the cabinet doors. He said there was cast off on the ceiling, but most of the blood was concentrated low. Lockhart said that was correct. McCarthy asked if there was anything consistent with a person bein struck while standing upright. She said no.
by Gina Damron 4:36 PM
Skrzynski: If hit in the face with a bloody bat, would it cause transfer of blood?
Lockhart: Yes
by Gina Damron 4:35 PM
Lockhart testified that stepping into blood is a contact or transfer stain.
by Gina Damron 4:33 PM
Skrzynski is asking more questions.
by Gina Damron 4:32 PM
McCarthy is asking whether scientifically she knows it is blood on the pants.
"All signs point" to it being blood, but Lockhart testified that she doesn't test it herself. She called it "apparent" blood.
by Gina Damron 4:32 PM
Lockhart: She saw the foyer of the house, where there was a significant amount of blood.
by Gina Damron 4:31 PM
Lockhart: She looked on the bottom of the shoes, where there was apparent blood.
by Gina Damron 4:31 PM
McCarthy is cross examining now.
by Gina Damron 4:30 PM
Lockhart: There is also blood spots on the hood and waistband of Young's sweatshirt.
by Gina Damron 4:30 PM
Lockhart: There were stains on the boots consistent with impact spatter.
by Gina Damron 4:26 PM
Lockhart: Young's shoes had staining on them, as well.
by Gina Damron 4:25 PM
Lockhart: "The pants themselves were the most definitive display of impact spatter" of all the clothing of his she examined.
by Gina Damron 4:24 PM
Lockhart: She looked at other clothing that belonged to Mitchell Young. There were areas with other possible impact spatter.
by Gina Damron 4:23 PM
Lockhart: She found no such pattern on Tucker Cipriano's pants.
by Gina Damron 4:22 PM
Lockhart: "He would be low to the ground," while being beaten, she said of Robert Cipriano, based on the patterns found on the cabinets and Young's pants.
by Gina Damron 4:22 PM
Lockhart: The impact spatter in the kitchen was below three feet.
by Gina Damron 4:21 PM
Lockhart: To be consistent with the staining on the cabinet, it's consistent with the amount of impact pattern on the pants. The spatter would go a short distance. The pants would have been between a foot and inches away from the blood source. He would have been standing above the blood source because the stains go inside of the pant lets.
by Gina Damron 4:21 PM
Lockhart: The stain patterns on Young's pants suggest that the person wearing then was very close to the blood source. Since it goes up the inseam of the paints it's indicative of the spatter coming up the pant legs.
by Gina Damron 4:19 PM
Lockhart: We examined all of the clothing to see if there was anything they could determine about involvement or positioning to determine what happened at the scene.
by Gina Damron 4:18 PM
The attorneys are leaning in, as well, as Lockhart explains to jurors are the other end of the jury box.
by Gina Damron 4:18 PM
Young was looking on, picking at his hands. He was just writing on a piece of paper.
by Gina Damron 4:17 PM
Jurors are leaning in as Lockhart explains how she examined the small stains.
by Gina Damron 4:16 PM
The pants themselves are now being shown to the jury.
by Gina Damron 4:16 PM
Images of Young's pants are being shown. It's hard to see the blood stains because the pants are black, but Lockhart said the stains are concentrated at the bottom of the pant leg and disperse as they go up.
by Gina Damron 4:15 PM
Lockhart: She also looked at Mitchell Young's pants and his shoes. His pants were black and they had a significant amount of staining on them "consistent with impact spatter."
by Gina Damron 4:14 PM
Lockhart: She looked at Tucker Cipriano's pants, examining the lower legs. She did not find impact spatter on his pants.
by Gina Damron 4:14 PM
She was given clothing belonging to several individuals, both the victims and Tucker Cipriano and Mitchell Young.
by Gina Damron 4:13 PM
Lockhart testified she was also asked to examine clothing and footwear.
by Gina Damron 4:12 PM
An image is being shown of the wall near the stairs. Lockhart said there is a cast off stain.
by Gina Damron 4:12 PM
The blood pattern on that cabinet indicates blood has come from a wound or from some sort of pressure, Lockhart said.
by Gina Damron 4:10 PM
An image of another cabinet located near Robert Cipriano's feet shows blood, as well.
by Gina Damron 4:09 PM
"That's a classic, textbook example of what impact spatter looks like," Lockhart said of the blood on the cabinet.
by Gina Damron 4:08 PM
A close up view of the cabinet is being shown. Lockhart is pointing to concentrated staining area and the farther out the blood drops get, they show directionality.
by Gina Damron 4:07 PM
Lockhart: Describing impact spatter, as is seen on the cabinets, display tiny stains and show directionality. Also there is distribution.
by Gina Damron 4:06 PM
To have cast off spatter, there have to be at least two strikes, Lockhart said.
by Gina Damron 4:05 PM
An image of the wooden cabinet in the kitchen, located near Robert Cipriano's head was on the floor, is being shown.
by Gina Damron 4:04 PM
On a cabinet there was impact spatter, she said,
by Gina Damron 4:04 PM
Lockhart: That spatter on the ceiling where circular drops can be seen would indicate that the item that cast off the blood was right below the drop.
by Gina Damron 4:03 PM
The ceiling area with blood was above Robert Cipriano, Lockhart said.
by Gina Damron 4:02 PM
There was blood on the kitchen ceiling, she testified. An image of the blood on the ceiling is being shown.
by Gina Damron 4:02 PM
There was "cast off" blood patterns, which she said is when blood is coming off of an object. The object strikes a source of blood and when the object is drawn back or there is motion, the blood would fly off of the object, Lockhart testified.
by Gina Damron 4:02 PM
Lockhart: She observed Robert Cipriano facedown in the kitchen. There was a large pool of blood near his head. There was blood splatter on cabinets.
by Gina Damron 4:01 PM
The main areas she focused on were on the main leven in the kitchen area, but there were other areas of the house that had blood, Lockhart testified. There was an "extensive" amount of blood in the kitchen, she said.
by Gina Damron 4:00 PM
Lockhart: She and the rest of the crime scene team responded to the Cipriano home on Rose Hill in Farmington Hills.
by Gina Damron 3:58 PM
She has been doing crime scene work since 1996, she said.
by Gina Damron 3:57 PM
Lockhart said she is certified as a blood stain pattern examiner.
by Gina Damron 3:57 PM
Court back in session. Brigid Lockhart, with the Oakland County Sheriff's Office forensic science lab, is testifying. She was with the crime scene team.
by Gina Damron 3:55 PM
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States witness, Martha Peters, senior vice vice president of strategic marketing for Dearborn Financial Credit Union (DFCU)
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McCarthy is pointing out time discrepancies between the records Peters is reading from and the time the receipt shows.
by Gina Damron 9:19 AM
Michael McCarthy, Young's attorney, is cross examining the witness.
by Gina Damron 9:17 AM
Peters: The card was eventually blocked because of the suspected fraud.
by Gina Damron 9:16 AM
Peters: The last transaction was at 11:42 p.m. Then, at the same station, another transaction was attempted after 1 a.m.
by Gina Damron 9:16 AM
Peters: The request was denied a third and fourth time, as well.
by Gina Damron 9:14 AM
Peters: The request was denied a second time because of suspected fraud, as well.
by Gina Damron 9:13 AM
Peters: A request was denied. There was suspected fraud.
by Gina Damron 9:12 AM
Peters: They were made on April 15, 2012.
by Gina Damron 9:12 AM
Peters: There were five attempted transactions at that station.
by Gina Damron 9:11 AM
Peters: The card was also used at an Exxon Mobil station in Sylvan Lake.
by Gina Damron 9:11 AM
Peters: The card was also used at the gas pump.
by Gina Damron 9:09 AM
Peters: Records show the card was used at the register.
by Gina Damron 9:08 AM
Peters: A transaction at the gas station from an ATM for $100 was denied because of an incorrect pin.
by Gina Damron 9:07 AM
Skrzynski: The location is a Valero station on Orchard Lake Road.
by Gina Damron 9:05 AM
Now being shown is a receipt. It was taken from the vehicle Mitchell Young and Tucker Cipriano had been driving, Oakland County Assistant Prosecutor John Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 9:05 AM
Peters: Talking about transactions made using Robert Cipriano's DFCU check card.
by Gina Damron 9:04 AM
She is talking about records that show when and where cards are used. We're now looking at a record from April 15, 2012.
by Gina Damron 9:00 AM
An image of Robert Cipriano's check card is being shown.
by Gina Damron 8:58 AM
Martha Peters, senior vice vice president of strategic marketing for Dearborn Financial Credit Union (DFCU from here on out) is testifying. She brought records.
by Gina Damron 8:58 AM
The jury is in the courtroom and the first witness is being called. Keep submitting questions and I will get to them at the first break.
by Gina Damron 8:55 AM
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McCarthy is pointing out time discrepancies between the records Peters is reading from and the time the receipt shows.
by Gina Damron 9:19 AM
Michael McCarthy, Young's attorney, is cross examining the witness.
by Gina Damron 9:17 AM
Peters: The card was eventually blocked because of the suspected fraud.
by Gina Damron 9:16 AM
Peters: The last transaction was at 11:42 p.m. Then, at the same station, another transaction was attempted after 1 a.m.
by Gina Damron 9:16 AM
Peters: The request was denied a third and fourth time, as well.
by Gina Damron 9:14 AM
Peters: The request was denied a second time because of suspected fraud, as well.
by Gina Damron 9:13 AM
Peters: A request was denied. There was suspected fraud.
by Gina Damron 9:12 AM
Peters: They were made on April 15, 2012.
by Gina Damron 9:12 AM
Peters: There were five attempted transactions at that station.
by Gina Damron 9:11 AM
Peters: The card was also used at an Exxon Mobil station in Sylvan Lake.
by Gina Damron 9:11 AM
Peters: The card was also used at the gas pump.
by Gina Damron 9:09 AM
Peters: Records show the card was used at the register.
by Gina Damron 9:08 AM
Peters: A transaction at the gas station from an ATM for $100 was denied because of an incorrect pin.
by Gina Damron 9:07 AM
Skrzynski: The location is a Valero station on Orchard Lake Road.
by Gina Damron 9:05 AM
Now being shown is a receipt. It was taken from the vehicle Mitchell Young and Tucker Cipriano had been driving, Oakland County Assistant Prosecutor John Skrzynski said.
by Gina Damron 9:05 AM
Peters: Talking about transactions made using Robert Cipriano's DFCU check card.
by Gina Damron 9:04 AM
She is talking about records that show when and where cards are used. We're now looking at a record from April 15, 2012.
by Gina Damron 9:00 AM
An image of Robert Cipriano's check card is being shown.
by Gina Damron 8:58 AM
Martha Peters, senior vice vice president of strategic marketing for Dearborn Financial Credit Union (DFCU from here on out) is testifying. She brought records.
by Gina Damron 8:58 AM
The jury is in the courtroom and the first witness is being called. Keep submitting questions and I will get to them at the first break.
by Gina Damron 8:55 AM
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States witness, Scott Rzeppa, Detective with Farmington Hills
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McCarthy has no questions for Rzeppa. He has been excused. Another detective is being called.
by Gina Damron 9:33 AM
Rzeppa: He called the owner of the Mobil station, spoke with him about what they were looking for. They needed video from an hour later. The owner said the video had already recycled and no longer existed.
by Gina Damron 9:31 AM
Rzeppa: There was a switch time and a local time on the records. The switch time showed an hour later.
Peters had testified earlier that the switch time was the time when the transaction actually occurred. The local time is the store time, which may have been off because the time was not changed for daylight saving.
by Gina Damron 9:31 AM
Zinderman testified he was with Young and Tucker Cipriano before the attack.
by Gina Damron 9:29 AM
Rzeppa: In the early afternoon hours, they picked up Ian Zinderman. They brought the videos to interview him and review the videos.
by Gina Damron 9:29 AM
Rzeppa: Two videos from the Mobil station Sylvan Lake. Someone from DFCU called and said the cards had been used at that station.
by Gina Damron 9:27 AM
The Quest softball bat is also being shown.
by Gina Damron 9:26 AM
An image of the Easton bat is being shown.
by Gina Damron 9:25 AM
Rzeppa: A doctor at the Oakland County Medical Examiner's Office performed the autopsy. The doctor asked to review the baseball bats.
by Gina Damron 9:25 AM
Rzeppa: He went to the Medical Examiner's Office to view the autopsy.
by Gina Damron 9:25 AM
Rzeppa: He was wimpering, limping around, injured. They called animal control.
by Gina Damron 9:24 AM
Rzeppa: There was a dog at the scene, in the den, blocked off with a couch.
by Gina Damron 9:24 AM
Rzeppa: He was on the scene at the Cipriano's home.
by Gina Damron 9:23 AM
Farmington Hills Det. Scott Rzeppa is testifying.
by Gina Damron 9:22 AM
Another witness is being called.
by Gina Damron 9:21 AM
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McCarthy has no questions for Rzeppa. He has been excused. Another detective is being called.
by Gina Damron 9:33 AM
Rzeppa: He called the owner of the Mobil station, spoke with him about what they were looking for. They needed video from an hour later. The owner said the video had already recycled and no longer existed.
by Gina Damron 9:31 AM
Rzeppa: There was a switch time and a local time on the records. The switch time showed an hour later.
Peters had testified earlier that the switch time was the time when the transaction actually occurred. The local time is the store time, which may have been off because the time was not changed for daylight saving.
by Gina Damron 9:31 AM
Zinderman testified he was with Young and Tucker Cipriano before the attack.
by Gina Damron 9:29 AM
Rzeppa: In the early afternoon hours, they picked up Ian Zinderman. They brought the videos to interview him and review the videos.
by Gina Damron 9:29 AM
Rzeppa: Two videos from the Mobil station Sylvan Lake. Someone from DFCU called and said the cards had been used at that station.
by Gina Damron 9:27 AM
The Quest softball bat is also being shown.
by Gina Damron 9:26 AM
An image of the Easton bat is being shown.
by Gina Damron 9:25 AM
Rzeppa: A doctor at the Oakland County Medical Examiner's Office performed the autopsy. The doctor asked to review the baseball bats.
by Gina Damron 9:25 AM
Rzeppa: He went to the Medical Examiner's Office to view the autopsy.
by Gina Damron 9:25 AM
Rzeppa: He was wimpering, limping around, injured. They called animal control.
by Gina Damron 9:24 AM
Rzeppa: There was a dog at the scene, in the den, blocked off with a couch.
by Gina Damron 9:24 AM
Rzeppa: He was on the scene at the Cipriano's home.
by Gina Damron 9:23 AM
Farmington Hills Det. Scott Rzeppa is testifying.
by Gina Damron 9:22 AM
Another witness is being called.
by Gina Damron 9:21 AM
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