Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 2 *D. Stewart guilty*

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  • #101
I would think that is typical forensics. And that depends on the jurisdictional Lab

Usually that takes 4 to 6 weeks?

I do wonder though, since this has crossed state lines if the Feds are involved, they can get testing done much faster.

I think I read that the FBI is involved. So they have FBI resources. With Virginia being Doug's present home state, he's right in the middle of a state with a huge FBI presence.

ETA: quick search yields not information about the FBI being involved, but with this possibly involving an interstate crime, I'd guess that they are. JMO.
 
  • #102
Just a quick article on understanding why abuse victims stay , return...

Why She Stays

Many people who have not been abused by an intimate partner often say that if their partner ever abused them they certainly would leave. Remaining in or returning to an abusive relationship may be a rational survival mechanism. Domestic violence victims are not always passive. They may attempt to protect themselves through a variety of mechanisms short of leaving. Below are some of the reason victims choose to stay or return to an abusive relationship.

Commitment to the relationship. There are serious factors which weigh on a victims decision to leave. The abuser is the person the victim loves. This makes leaving the abuser especially difficult where violent episodes are followed by periods of affection and positive attention. The abuser may be the father/mother of the victims children. The victim may want to end the violence, but also preserve the family relationship.

Lack of self-confidence. Ending an intimate relationship is almost always difficult, but even more so when the victims self-confidence has been destroyed by abuse.

Believes the myths about domestic violence. Victims of domestic violence may assume that violence in an unavoidable part of life. Victims may also blame themselves for the violence.

No place to go. There are more animal shelters in the U.S. than shelters for battered women and children. Domestic violence is the cause of half of the homelessness in Americas women and children.

Hope of change. Many abusers are remorseful after abusing the victim. This contrite behavior may include promising never to hit again, agreeing to seek counseling if the victim promises not to leave, reminding the victim of how hard the perpetrator works, pointing out the incredible stresses under which s/he is operating, acknowledging the wrongfulness of his/her violence to the children and asking their help in stopping it, and demonstrating his/her love for the victim in meaningful ways. Since victims have often built their lives around the relationship, they hope for change. When the abuser acknowledges the error of his/her ways, when s/he breaks down and cries and concedes the need for dramatic change, hope is often born anew for the victim.

Isolation. Many victims of domestic violence do not have a support system. The abuser has isolated them. For example, the abuser may prohibit the victim from using the phone, may humiliate him/her at family gatherings, may insist on transporting him/her to and from work, or may censor his/her mail. Abusers are often highly possessive and excessively jealous. They believe that they own the victim and are entitled to his/her exclusive attention and absolute obedience. The abuser knows that if the truth is known about his/her conduct, support persons will encourage the victim to leave the abuser. Therefore, abusers isolate victims in order to sustain the power of violence.

Much more at the link:

http://www.law.indiana.edu/pop/domestic_violence/stays.shtml
 
  • #103
Didn't DS call his kids from Virginia on Sunday night (8pm) per VS parents on NG? They said he called every day at 8pm. Could he really do all this travelling, abducting, covering up, etc, travelling again without detection and be home by the time he was contacted later that same evening?
 
  • #104
I wonder if they have taken Dougs computer.
 
  • #105
Didn't DS call his kids from Virginia on Sunday night (8pm) per VS parents on NG? They said he called every day at 8pm. Could he really do all this travelling, abducting, covering up, etc, travelling again without detection and be home by the time he was contacted later that same evening?

Who has said that he called from Virginia on Sunday night?
 
  • #106
I think I read that the FBI is involved. So they have FBI resources. With Virginia being Doug's present home state, he's right in the middle of a state with a huge FBI presence.

ETA: quick search yields not information about the FBI being involved, but with this possibly involving an interstate crime, I'd guess that they are. JMO.

If that is the case, they more than likely have tested the truck. Especially tire imprints, dusted for any residue that would indicate various state environmental travel (floor pads carpet) my only problem with that is the length of time LE actually got the vehicle in to custody.
 
  • #107
I would think that is typical forensics. And that depends on the jurisdictional Lab

Usually that takes 4 to 6 weeks?

I do wonder though, since this has crossed state lines if the Feds are involved, they can get testing done much faster.

We recently had an abduction and murder here where a tire print was left and within two days they had them matched. With Venus's life at stake I doubt it will be 4-6 weeks.


http://v1.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20100209.escenic_1461548/BNStory/National
 
  • #108
Didn't DS call his kids from Virginia on Sunday night (8pm) per VS parents on NG? They said he called every day at 8pm. Could he really do all this travelling, abducting, covering up, etc, travelling again without detection and be home by the time he was contacted later that same evening?
I think the parents said he was calling every night, at about 8, except for the night Venus was abducted...he didn't call that night. They never specifically said he called on Sunday night though.

Could he have done all that driving ? Yeah, it wouldn't be easy, but it's possible. Rage can get some people highly motivated.
 
  • #109
We have to keep in mind this man lived in the parents home with Venus. Did their hatred toward him begin then or after she returned this time.
 
  • #110
Didn't DS call his kids from Virginia on Sunday night (8pm) per VS parents on NG? They said he called every day at 8pm. Could he really do all this travelling, abducting, covering up, etc, travelling again without detection and be home by the time he was contacted later that same evening?

IIRC he called Sunday but did not call the day she was kidnapped, which was Monday.
 
  • #111
Didn't DS call his kids from Virginia on Sunday night (8pm) per VS parents on NG? They said he called every day at 8pm. Could he really do all this travelling, abducting, covering up, etc, travelling again without detection and be home by the time he was contacted later that same evening?
Unlikely, imo. He would have to leave almost as soon as he hung up the phone after talking with the kids, and hope he could get Venus early in the morning, then get back home in time to "be there" when LE came looking for him ~ knowing he'd be the first person they'd look for after finding out Venus was missing. MOO
 
  • #112
I think the parents said he was calling every night, at about 8, except for the night Venus was abducted...he didn't call that night. They never specifically said he called on Sunday night though.

Could he have done all that driving ? Yeah, it wouldn't be easy, but it's possible. Rage can get some people highly motivated.
Since they stressed he didn't call Monday night, if he also hadn't called Sunday I'm sure they would've mentioned it since it could've given him more time to get to Michigan to abduct her. I really would like to know exactly when LE contacted him on Monday and if that could be the reason he didn't call.
 
  • #113
Who has said that he called from Virginia on Sunday night?
If he called the kids and wasn't home LE could find out very quickly. Cell phone records, you know! MOO
 
  • #114
I would guess that LE contacted him around that time. It was described as "late evening" IIRC. If he was at work and routinely called at around that time to talk to the kids after he got home, it would make sense for LE to contact him around then since he could be expected to be home.
 
  • #115
Well, till tomorrow, hopefully I will wake up tomorrow to find all of these missing children and persons found, Not likely, but at least I can dream. Hug all around you, let them know you love them as often as you can.
 
  • #116
If he called the kids and wasn't home LE could find out very quickly. Cell phone records, you know! MOO

I was thinking payphone , they still exist in some places ...lol :)
 
  • #117
Who has said that he called from Virginia on Sunday night?

Well, I think it would be pretty easy to trace the phone records from where the call was placed whether by landline or mobile phone.

That's why I asked the question. The parents said he ALWAYS called, NEVER MISSED A CALL, until the night she disappeared and that he always called at 8pm.

So if it can be proven he was calling from Virginia on Sunday night at 8pm, that makes the timeline that was available for this to happen extremely unlikely.

So the scenario is he hangs up with his kids at say 8:30pm on Sunday night, drives 10-11 hours conservatively (after likely being awake all day on Sunday) just in time to arrive at the parent's home, she walks out five minutes later to mail a letter, he grabs her, does whatever he does with her, puts her somewhere that nobody can find, and drives 10-11 hours home all under the radar?
 
  • #118
another thing i find strange that the father said was "the girls told him mom went outside". Wouldn't you say to your child, "i'm going out to the mailbox and i will be right back". I don't think you would just leave them and go outside.
 
  • #119
I guess we need to know if the call on Sunday was from his home phone or from a cell phone. If it was from his cell, he could have been 5 minutes away from Venus's home.
 
  • #120
In CA, LE had the DNA matched in the Chelsea King case before they even found her body...I would think they could get a handle on tire tracks, etc pretty quickly in a kidnapping case, and maybe we have not heard because they have not found anything useful. I can't imagine it being anyone except the ex in this particular case, but will be interested to see how he actually managed it, if he did. He could not have allowed any time for mishaps, if he was at home when he made the call the night before and then home again in the evening when LE located him.
I agree with poster who stated that if somehow, someone else did this, ex will likely keep kids away from grandparents as much as possible once he gets custody back. Their attorneys should have advised them to be careful of what they say (or someone should have, if no attorneys.)
 
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