Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 2 *D. Stewart guilty*

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  • #421
The filing for divorce maneuver is manipulative for control - that along with a myriad of other threats usually are used before resorting to murder. The I'll kill you if you leave me kind of person is psychologically abusive - not all murderers are.

Apparently she filed for divorce too.

When I escaped, I managed to keep away from him for 10 years. Then I filed for divorce only with the assurance from my lawyer that he could do so without my ex finding out. But he did, and immediately called the lawyer's office demanding to know where I was, why I'd dare to divorce him, where my child went to school, and more --- all after no contact with me for ten years.

So no, given my experience with an abusive 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who threatened my life and my child if I ever left him I don't see DS attempting to divorce her as a play for control.
 
  • #422
He did. He made a statement that two people can verify that he was in Virginia.

That wasn't my question, I apologize if I wasn't clear. Who said he has ONLY two witnesses? I haven't seen that reported anywhere or perhaps I missed it.
 
  • #423
One week to the day before Venus disappeared, the court ordered that she be awarded temporary custody.

The next step, of course, is that the order be mailed to Doug, unless it was given to a local attorney representing him at the hearing. I don't know if Doug had already retained this lawyer in Portage for the custody hearing or not.

When did the Schoolcraft police 'close' the case on the accusations of molestation?
 
  • #424
Apparently she filed for divorce too.

When I escaped, I managed to keep away from him for 10 years. Then I filed for divorce only with the assurance from my lawyer that he could do so without my ex finding out. But he did, and immediately called the lawyer's office demanding to know where I was, why I'd dare to divorce him, where my child went to school, and more --- all after no contact with me for ten years.

So no, given my experience with an abusive 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who threatened my life and my child if I ever left him I don't see DS attempting to divorce her as a play for control.

So sorry you have had such a terrible experience. Using children and the threats of divorce to psychologically control the partner is common...the abuser moves on to the next woman he can terrorize and control. When that relationship ends he may end up going back to a previous spouse to restart his abuse. There are tons of books and research on this terrible state of existence. MOO MHO and all that stuff

Perhaps you think Venus is the terrorizer, the abuser - and we should all have empathy for what her husband has been through - I see no problem with that - but please tell me how you explain her obvious absence and his presence. When and if LE clear hubby, we will have to move on, so who is next? moo
 
  • #425
The cycle of domestic violence is very well established - it is taught in classrooms throughout the country. There are organizations throughout the country for women in need of help. Ongoing research exists. What seems to differ is the level of psychological terror and sadistic violence involved.

With that in mind - I'm not sure one has to experience the abuse itself in order to see it in others. However, those who have experienced and survived the cycle of abuse are able to nail the dynamics down perfectly when seeing it in others.

As for hanging this man for being guilty - he has been named a POI and his vehicles have been searched via search warrant. I doubt he would be our focus if LE didn't suspect him or if LE cleared him. Not sure who we should move on to - any ideas? moo

I'm not saying anyone should move on to anyone else, all I'm saying is that all this back and forth he-said/she-said that is being considered should be given a bit of equal weight until there is EVIDENCE of anything, I hear a lot of accusations backed up by no evidence. It's fairly easy to look at the she-said side only and come to one conclusion. And you can easily discount the he-said as that he's simply just a textbook abusive husband. But that's a narrow view of what was obviously a complex relationship.
 
  • #426
I'm not saying anyone should move on to anyone else, all I'm saying is that all this back and forth he-said/she-said that is being considered should be given a bit of equal weight until there is EVIDENCE of anything, I hear a lot of accusations backed up by no evidence. It's fairly easy to look at the she-said side only and come to one conclusion. And you can easily discount the he-said as that he's simply just a textbook abusive husband. But that's a narrow view of what was obviously a complex relationship.

Narrow view or not, she is missing and he has been named a POI. Not the other way around.
 
  • #427
I'm not saying anyone should move on to anyone else, all I'm saying is that all this back and forth he-said/she-said that is being considered should be given a bit of equal weight until there is EVIDENCE of anything, I hear a lot of accusations backed up by no evidence. It's fairly easy to look at the she-said side only and come to one conclusion. And you can easily discount the he-said as that he's simply just a textbook abusive husband. But that's a narrow view of what was obviously a complex relationship.

I AGREE - However, there is an abuse cycle that is textbook, the variants are many, including violence and sadistic tendencies. That alone seems to make each case different. moo

I could easily sit here and make a case against Venus rendering her as the abuser. I would use her past, family dynamics, criminal history, and present circumstances of taking money out of the account, leaving with the children, etc. etc. I could use her father's appearance on TV as fuel that she also, came from an abusive household. Actually, I could make a case against her father for being the perp. We can all put on the hat of a defense attorney. What makes most sense to me right now is going along with LE. Venus is the one missing - she needs to be brought home for the sake of her children and all those who love her. moo
 
  • #428
Nothing about the possible girlfriend LD?

I wonder if Venuss parents were/are involved in domestic violence? that would count for the dad being sorta distant from mom and Venus being drawn towards a violent man.

Doug could have made the call from anywhere using a new phone system called Google Voice. There are other services like it. The call would be traced back to his house (Im pretty sure)

He could have left his place at anytime on Sun. Maybe he was planning on stealing the children? Kill the whole family?

just my two cents worth.
 
  • #429
Nothing about the possible girlfriend LD?

I wonder if Venuss parents were/are involved in domestic violence? that would count for the dad being sorta distant from mom and Venus being drawn towards a violent man.

Doug could have made the call from anywhere using a new phone system called Google Voice. There are other services like it. The call would be traced back to his house (Im pretty sure)

He could have left his place at anytime on Sun. Maybe he was planning on stealing the children? Kill the whole family?

just my two cents worth.

That's why I've been asking if DS has a military background...this could be a lot easier for someone who has been to Iraq and seen some heavy stuff, or someone who is trained to plan out missions and kill people...but nobody has come back with anything yet about any military connections...
 
  • #430
There is a lot of military web sites. If I had to pick one, I would pick Navy then air force, with him wanting to stay in Newport news. I just dont know how to go about trying to find out if he was Military. I am assuming he only had a couple of friends. I still wonder about the job being low paying and yet living in what I assume is a high rise?
 
  • #431
I know DS is the prime/only suspect, whether or not he has yet been named as that, but is there anything besides motive as yet that has been confirmed that points to him? Not counting NG's blog right now unless it has been confirmed by real media outlet. Just wondering, certainly not saying he is not the right POI...it is just surprising to me that LE would name him so quickly as a POI (only POI I think they said) unless they had something besides the word of her parents and the legal history. JMO.
 
  • #432
I know DS is the prime/only suspect, whether or not he has yet been named as that, but is there anything besides motive as yet that has been confirmed that points to him? Not counting NG's blog right now unless it has been confirmed by real media outlet. Just wondering, certainly not saying he is not the right POI...it is just surprising to me that LE would name him so quickly as a POI (only POI I think they said) unless they had something besides the word of her parents and the legal history. JMO.

I believe they have more. That's just my opninion.
They don't just name a person a POI in the public unless they have reason.
 
  • #433
The police have recently stated that his alibi holds up-"for now". I think that the disclaimer is meant for the next logical conclusion-that since he was in VA, he may have hired someone to do this. That is why LM dismissing the "wet dude" puzzles me. Apparently, there is someone else involved -either a hitman or a random kidnapper. We have two strange things happening with two different men in the immediate area, and they are dismissed by dad in his haste to blame the ex. This defies logic. So what if wet dude is "local", he still could have kidnapped VS.
I don't believe that DS could convince the police at least twice to arrest his wife for DV unfairly. Yes, Drew P was able to get away with a lot since he was a cop. DS is a truck driver. Not exactly the same pull with the law. They both filed for divorce, and they both filed for protection orders. But only one was found guilty of DV. I do not see where DS has shown violent tendencies, let alone homicidal ones. I don't think the custody case was a big issue to DS, I think given the DV cases, especially since she injured the 3 yr old, he could easily get custody if he wanted it. It's possible he agreed to V getting custody until he can move back to the area, etc.
I'm not sure how LE made the jump from someone's displaced some gravel to she's probably been killed. In the Pat Kimmi (RIP) case, there was evidence of a violent struggle. Pat's partial, and the perps money clip and cap were found. In this case, there was no blood, no clumps of hair, no slippers, just the gravel. To tell you the truth, that looked like it does at my house when the deer come to munch my flowers.
I don't blame DS for lawyering up. He's been called a stone cold murderer, a child molester and abuser, and NG blasts him night after night. If he's behind this, that's fine, but what if the guy is innocent?
Thinkaboutthis, I think that being in the military also shows responsibility, discipline, and courage. I am not sure his status as a vet will help us sleuth this out, but I'm curious too. Oh heck, I'm nosy. There. I said it lol.
I think we can safely assume he was in VA when this happened. I think a good start would be to check this guy out.
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/most_popular_story.aspx?storyid=121322&provider=top
 
  • #434
I know DS is the prime/only suspect, whether or not he has yet been named as that, but is there anything besides motive as yet that has been confirmed that points to him? Not counting NG's blog right now unless it has been confirmed by real media outlet. Just wondering, certainly not saying he is not the right POI...it is just surprising to me that LE would name him so quickly as a POI (only POI I think they said) unless they had something besides the word of her parents and the legal history. JMO.

Nancy's erroneous blog has now been deleted.
 
  • #435
http://www.ajr.org/article.asp?id=4042

An interesting read...regarding the use of the term "person of interest" somebody else nipped a few lines from this before, here is the full article.
 
  • #436
I know DS is the prime/only suspect, whether or not he has yet been named as that, but is there anything besides motive as yet that has been confirmed that points to him? Not counting NG's blog right now unless it has been confirmed by real media outlet. Just wondering, certainly not saying he is not the right POI...it is just surprising to me that LE would name him so quickly as a POI (only POI I think they said) unless they had something besides the word of her parents and the legal history. JMO.

This news station is affirming that LE made this statement directly to them, so I would consider him named by LE as POI.

Douglas Stewart is the only official "person of interest" in the case, police told 24 Hour News 8, although they say he has a solid alibi for the time his wife disappeared.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/suspicious-person-in-Venus-Stewart-case

I have to say it confuses me that they consider him the one and only POI although they assert that he has a solid alibi. I'd love to know what that alibi is. I've never seen LE name a POI and also assert they have a solid alibi.

It sounds to me like they think he's involved somehow in her disappearance and/or murder, but are still trying to figure out exactly how, or maybe they know how but are still trying to get all the evidence. That perhaps he had someone else abduct her while he had an alibi and he then harmed her, or that he hired someone else to abduct and/or harm her, or some scenario like that.

I just hope LE can figure out what happened to Venus. All I keep thinking of is the utter terror the poor woman must have gone through. It's an awful thought. Her home and people who love her and care about her right there, and she can't get help. Terrified for her children so nearby. What a horribly desperate feeling that must have been for her.
 
  • #437
If NG's blog was wrong about what she had up there...that is some seriously bad "journalism" happening...that was major news, if true...
 
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PS- I HOPE LE has something to make them fairly certain DS is the one, despite his alibi, as it does not seem as though they are looking at any other possible scenario...but of course, they could be and we just do not know.
 
  • #440
we have. tarp wrapper...slipper foot print on propane tank...2 missing vehicles for a couple of days that suddendly showed up in front of apt building/in back of building.

My personal clue is the unknown/gossip over the back fence girlfriend maybe LD.

I still want to know why Venus's parents are listed as living with Doug in Virginia in one listing on line. ok, night now.
 
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