Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 6 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Coldpizza]

Hmmm...well, they located DS the evening of the abduction and then they located the truck two days later IIRC. I have still seen conflicting reports of where it was actually parked-both two streets away and in a space at the apartment complex.

I feel pretty certain they impounded the vehicle when they found it-they probably didnt have to get DS' permission to look at it if he was/is not on the title. They might have had to get a warrant to seize the other car however.

DS didnt cooperate at all, right? So it seems unlikely he gave permission for any of the searching that was done....

Now, what might be the delay in having the truck arrive in MI? I cannot think of any, unless they are just misleading the public and the POI.

I haven't read through the rest of the posts so forgive if this has been addressed.

My only thought on the truck delay is that this is a potential crime that has crossed state lines now involving the Feds. and 2 states. The red tape under those circumstances has now tripled IMO

 

[pufnstuf]

If Doug is ultimately prosecuted for anything related to this, Venus' father
is a defense attorney's dream witness.

Yeah, a jury will really enjoy watching the defense badger the elderly father of the (most likely) deceased victim.

 

[pufnstuf]

Did the MSP rifle through all of Venus' belongings, take her cellphone, her keys, and all the "notes" that she made? Venus' father said he found a "note" written by Venus accusing "someone" of molesting her children. Did the MSP find that note, and did they convey that information to him, or did he find it after they left the house to investigate Doug?

I can't say it enough. When doing investigations like this where the POI has an alibi, you have to GO BACK and start with the people who were the last to see her alive. There was bad blood between the father and Doug before she disappeared. Doug accused the guy of some type of crime, which Venus wrote about. That is a given. Of course he is going to say Doug did it, that he must have kidnapped her in her pajamas when she was at the mailbox, even though the father didn't see anything. Law enforcement is investigating this crime, not the father.

They should have taken her phone to see her message traffic. Then they should take her keys to find out what each key was resolved for, what vehicles, residences, PO Boxes if any, safe-deposit boxes. Then they should have went to where she was sleeping and taken everything she wrote about because that is also evidence. When people are writing things down, they want something tangible left behind and that is why Venus did that. The father should have found nothing after the police left the scene to look for Venus.

See, if Doug has an alibi, that means someone else did the crime. Doug may be complicit in that too, but he is a jar-head and I don't think he was smart enough to plan something like this out with someone else helping him. The guy was a ex-Marine jar-head truckdriver, not a Ph.D.

Yeah, great idea. Let's treat the family of victims like the perpetrator instead of using resources to investigate the guy who bought the tarp, shovel, gloves, and hat in Ohio.

About Doug having an alibi... that's pretty much become yesterday's news. There's really been no mention of it by Risko in, oh, 3 weeks or so.

 

[Frank Black]

My only thought on the truck delay is that this is a potential crime that has crossed state lines now involving the Feds. and 2 states. The red tape under those circumstances has now tripled IMO

The problem with the vehicles is that Venus used them regularly. That means her hair and other fibers would check out under normal circumstances. I suspect that is why the MSP is having the vehicles sent to them so they can do their own independent analysis of them. That means the testing done in Virginia was negative, even though noone has announced it as so.

 

[pufnstuf]

There were some people who earlier intimated that the McCombs might have framed Doug. I think that evidence being found in the DEStewart home pretty much nullifies that theory.

 

[believe09]

Did the MSP rifle through all of Venus' belongings, take her cellphone, her keys, and all the "notes" that she made? Venus' father said he found a "note" written by Venus accusing "someone" of molesting her children. Did the MSP find that note, and did they convey that information to him, or did he find it after they left the house to investigate Doug?

I can't say it enough. When doing investigations like this where the POI has an alibi, you have to GO BACK and start with the people who were the last to see her alive. There was bad blood between the father and Doug before she disappeared. Doug accused the guy of some type of crime, which Venus wrote about. That is a given. Of course he is going to say Doug did it, that he must have kidnapped her in her pajamas when she was at the mailbox, even though the father didn't see anything. Law enforcement is investigating this crime, not the father.

They should have taken her phone to see her message traffic. Then they should take her keys to find out what each key was resolved for, what vehicles, residences, PO Boxes if any, safe-deposit boxes. Then they should have went to where she was sleeping and taken everything she wrote about because that is also evidence. When people are writing things down, they want something tangible left behind and that is why Venus did that. The father should have found nothing after the police left the scene to look for Venus.

See, if Doug has an alibi, that means someone else did the crime. Doug may be complicit in that too, but he is a jar-head and I don't think he was smart enough to plan something like this out with someone else helping him. The guy was a ex-Marine jar-head truckdriver, not a Ph.D.

Oh, I think MSP has been pretty thorough. And I am a little startled by the statement that seems to imply that "ex Marines" are not smart enough to, what, commit a murder or plan a murder? I am not sure which.

The thing is, as puf stated already, MSP has been tight lipped about what they have done and or found with a few exceptions.

I do not believe that Doug's alibi is sufficient to rule him out as a POI-because he would have been ruled out and then they would have moved on....concentric circles right?

 

[pufnstuf]

The problem with the vehicles is that Venus used them regularly. That means her hair and other fibers would check out under normal circumstances. I suspect that is why the MSP is having the vehicles sent to them so they can do their own independent analysis of them. That means the testing done in Virginia was negative, even though noone has announced it as so.

Fibers from the McComb house wouldn't be in the truck, under normal circumstances.

 

[pufnstuf]

Oh, I think MSP has been pretty thorough. And I am a little startled by the statement that seems to imply that "ex Marines" are not smart enough to, what, commit a murder or plan a murder? I am not sure which.

The thing is, as puf stated already, MSP has been tight lipped about what they have done and or found with a few exceptions.

I do not believe that Doug's alibi is sufficient to rule him out as a POI-because he would have been ruled out and then they would have moved on....concentric circles right?

What she said.

 

[Coldpizza]

I dont think I agree with you here Frank. Maybe they dont have enough to go either way-maybe the fact that his alibi does not hold up is not enough to prove he was in MI at the time.

Not to mention arrest him. If they feel he has contributed to a crime, they want all their ducks in a row, facts straight, all agency's involved on agreement so they have a conviction at the end.

 

[pufnstuf]

Not to mention arrest him. If they feel he has contributed to a crime, they want all their ducks in a row, facts straight, all agency's involved on agreement so they have a conviction at the end.

And that's what Risko said. He won't be called a suspect until they have an arrest warrant in hand.

Which, in my opinion, is pretty damning for Doug.

 

[Coldpizza]

The problem with the vehicles is that Venus used them regularly. That means her hair and other fibers would check out under normal circumstances. I suspect that is why the MSP is having the vehicles sent to them so they can do their own independent analysis of them. That means the testing done in Virginia was negative, even though noone has announced it as so.

I respectively disagree. It may also mean that the other state wants their testing to be done in their lab as well.

If the crime was committed in MI then the trial will be there. I would certainly hope that MI experts have their testing done as well. Especially for comparison.

imo

 

[pufnstuf]

And fibers from clothes that Venus bought after leaving Doug. Since she left with very little, I'd imagine that any clothing fibers would be alien to the truck.

And her hair. Has she had it colored, cut differently, or treated since she left VA?

What about the kids? They had to buy new clothes, too.

Dirt. Pollen. Bits of gravel.

Blood in the back floorboard of the Merc on an item that is dated since Venus left. Same with the truck.

Those new boots and the boot box in the truck. Gravel particles from the driveway in the treads of the boots? Epithelial cells from Doug inside the boots?

Could go on all day about the potential evidence that may still be located in that truck.

 

[Coldpizza]

I do have a question? Has it been confirmed that blood was found in both vehicles?

 

[believe09]

I do have a question? Has it been confirmed that blood was found in both vehicles?

I dont think from LE-just anecdotally that there was blood in the truck, but it was DS' IIRC.

 

[pufnstuf]

What they found in the back floorboard of the Mercury and on the inner front driverside door of the truck appeared to be blood. I am sure that LE knows by now whether it's blood or not. Probably waiting on forensics to come back with DNA results, though.

 

[pufnstuf]

I dont think from LE-just anecdotally that there was blood in the truck, but it was DS' IIRC.

I think it was said that Therese said that she was told that it was Doug's.

I don't think it's been proved one way or the other, though.

 

[Frank Black]

There were some people who earlier intimated that the McCombs might have framed Doug. I think that evidence being found in the DEStewart home pretty much nullifies that theory.

I don't think the McCombs framed Doug. I think they were convinced from the onset that Doug was responsible for the disappearance and told the world about it based upon their own understanding of Venus' and Doug's relationship.

Doug was already under investigation for molesting his children per Venus' complaint, right? If you were in his position, would you go to her dad's house in broad daylight and kidnap her with the father inside the house? If the father saw him within 100 miles of the property he would have dialed 911, right? Sure he would have.

I guess the only point that I am making is that Doug isn't going anywhere and the police can arrest him at any time. But what if he didn't do it? That means there is a dangerous kidnapper/killer out there, and all attention is on Doug because the media said he is guilty without 100% evidence.

 

[Coldpizza]

Well I have felt all along that the Walmart receipt is the key. I'm fairly certain being such a huge chain they have those tapes at the time of purchase not to mention the time stamp and the cashier who rang up that purchase and his/ her testimony. I feel they are waiting for forensics to come back and the coordination of all LE agencies involved before they make a move.

 

[believe09]

I don't think the McCombs framed Doug. I think they were convinced from the onset that Doug was responsible for the disappearance and told the world about it based upon their own understanding of Venus' and Doug's relationship.

Doug was already under investigation for molesting his children per Venus' complaint, right? If you were in his position, would you go to her dad's house in broad daylight and kidnap her with the father inside the house? If the father saw him within 100 miles of the property he would have dialed 911, right? Sure he would have.

I guess the only point that I am making is that Doug isn't going anywhere and the police can arrest him at any time. But what if he didn't do it? That means there is a dangerous kidnapper/killer out there, and all attention is on Doug because the media said he is guilty without 100% evidence.

The media is not saying he is guilty that I am aware. And DS can clear himself if he is not by cooperating so MSP can move on to the violent kidnapper/killer out there. JMO.

 

[Frank Black]

Oh, I think MSP has been pretty thorough. And I am a little startled by the statement that seems to imply that "ex Marines" are not smart enough to, what, commit a murder or plan a murder? I am not sure which.

Like you, I get startled when I read things sometimes, especially about multi-layered conspiracies that have no evidence in reality. When Doug was found to have an alibi, the story changed to "well, he must have recruited others to help him."

...and that is where I disagree. People talk, and if Doug recruited anyone to help him kill his wife, that is a huge risk. Doug would have to recruit a person that would, in essence, be risking his own life via state-mandated execution by lethal injection for killing Venus Stewart.

I don't buy it. Doug was a truck driver, not a movie star. Who would go to Michigan on behalf of Doug and kidnap/murder his wife?