Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 8 *D. Stewart guilty*

[Kimberlyd125]

I'd say DS's attorney is trying to figure out how to dispell all the overwhelming evidence against his client. I don't see him doing a happy dance any time soon. He's got his work cut out for him. JMO

What we know is only a tiny bit of what they have on this guy IMO.

When the state hands over the discovery to the defense, I wonder how happy the attorney will be. I'd say not very. But, that is just my opinion.

 

[Calliope]

I'd say DS's attorney is trying to figure out how to dispell all the overwhelming evidence against his client. I don't see him doing a happy dance any time soon. He's got his work cut out for him. JMO

What we know is only a tiny bit of what they have on this guy IMO.

When the state hands over the discovery to the defense, I wonder how happy the attorney will be. I'd say not very. But, that is just my opinion.

IMO, Doug's attorney should hand over at least half his fee to the MSP for doing so much on behalf of his client.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I just don't see it that way at all. We disagree on that.
I've seen nothing that the defense can use that has come from MSP.

JMO

 

[RubyRed]

I just don't see it that way at all. We disagree on that.
I've seen nothing that the defense can use that has come from MSP.

JMO

bbm

How about an impersonator? Defense is going to love this new twist.

 

[Amster]

If they don't match....maybe one of the Dougs squared had the tires changed.

 

[grayjay]

The tire wear that can be seen in the casting, would be only very slightly exaggerated with 700 extra miles of wear. Twice that and even I could probably tell the difference. That said, the basic anomalies of the specific tires will be there. Even a good chance that if there's a rock in the tread, it's still there. We've seen that with our own aggressive tires.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.isp.state.il.us/forensics/fwtt.htm

Footwear/Tire Tracks

Impression evidence can be generally defined as objects or materials that have retained the characteristics of other objects or materials through direct contact. Footwear and tire track impressions are types of impression evidence.

Crimes involve people and places. Persons committing a crime will leave footwear impressions en route to, at, and exiting from the crime scene. These impressions may be found in or on many different types of material, such as hard flooring, paper, dirt, mud, dust, blood, etc. Vehicles also leave impressions at or near the crime scene. The examiner attains the skill to visualize and enhance these impressions through a set of procedures. As a form of physical evidence, footwear and tire track impressions provide an important link between the criminal and the scene of the crime.

In many instances, footwear impressions or tiretrack impressions can be positively identified as having been made by a specific shoe or tire to the exclusion of all other shoes or tires. This identification is based on the correlation of the random individual characteristics that the shoe or tire has acquired with those respective features in the impression. The identification is as strong as that of fingerprints and toolmarks.

 

[grayjay]

If they don't match....maybe one of the Dougs squared had the tires changed.

:twocents:If Doug didn't bother to remove the Walmart receipt, I doubt he's thinking he needs new tires that day. LE mentioned a good match already, just more detail to help document the obvious and further convince the jury. They wouldn't say that if the tires had been replaced.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

bbm

How about an impersonator? Defense is going to love this new twist.

Not if MSP can prove it and they say they can. We'll see.

 

[spamelope]

The tire wear that can be seen in the casting, would be only very slightly exaggerated with 700 extra miles of wear. Twice that and even I could probably tell the difference. That said, the basic anomalies of the specific tires will be there. Even a good chance that if there's a rock in the tread, it's still there. We've seen that with our own aggressive tires.

Even though they're extra, I get the all -weather passive tires.

 

[Calliope]

I just don't see it that way at all. We disagree on that.
I've seen nothing that the defense can use that has come from MSP.

JMO

Multiple Dougs, videos and witnesses who later prove to be (unintentionally) unreliable, distance affecting tires... for example. I'm not an attorney, but even I can imagine how that can be used to plant a HUGE amount of reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors.

 

[BeanE]

I'd say DS's attorney is trying to figure out how to dispell all the overwhelming evidence against his client. I don't see him doing a happy dance any time soon. He's got his work cut out for him. JMO

What we know is only a tiny bit of what they have on this guy IMO.

When the state hands over the discovery to the defense, I wonder how happy the attorney will be. I'd say not very. But, that is just my opinion.

Personally, in Doug's situation, I would want an attorney who took my case and any potential evidence against me very seriously. One happy dance is all it would take for me to know I had an overly-confident attorney who was not taking my defense seriously, and I'd fire him/her.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

MSP say they have proof DS was in MI but are not ready to give that info out yet. If they can prove DS was in MI that proves he was not in VA. They don't have to prove who the impersonator was. It's impossible to be in 2 places at one time.

 

[jnTexas]

another reason to transport the truck via car transport is to collect any kind of vegatation under the fenders/wheel wells and under carriage that may match the field or area where he possibly dumped her. JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

MSP say they have proof DS was in MI but are not ready to give that info out yet. If they can prove DS was in MI that proves he was not in VA. They don't have to prove who the impersonator was. It's impossible to be in 2 places at one time.

Quoted myself to add to this thought.

No matter how much DS's attorney loves it, if MSP has proof that DS was in MI at the time of VS's abduction, that proof will be presented to a jury.
If the jury looks at that evidence and they believe it was DS in MI, they will know he was not in VA. They will know the man in VA was not DS. They will not need proof of that.
The jury will decide DS's fate, not his attorney.

JMO

 

[Calliope]

http://www.isp.state.il.us/forensics/fwtt.htm

Footwear/Tire Tracks

Impression evidence can be generally defined as objects or materials that have retained the characteristics of other objects or materials through direct contact. Footwear and tire track impressions are types of impression evidence.

Crimes involve people and places. Persons committing a crime will leave footwear impressions en route to, at, and exiting from the crime scene. These impressions may be found in or on many different types of material, such as hard flooring, paper, dirt, mud, dust, blood, etc. Vehicles also leave impressions at or near the crime scene. The examiner attains the skill to visualize and enhance these impressions through a set of procedures. As a form of physical evidence, footwear and tire track impressions provide an important link between the criminal and the scene of the crime.

In many instances, footwear impressions or tiretrack impressions can be positively identified as having been made by a specific shoe or tire to the exclusion of all other shoes or tires. This identification is based on the correlation of the random individual characteristics that the shoe or tire has acquired with those respective features in the impression. The identification is as strong as that of fingerprints and toolmarks.

Glad you brought this up.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - MI MI - Venus Rose Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - ABDUCTED - #8


Wet and rainy all day Sunday. At that time of the morning on Monday, not yet warm enough or enough sun yet to have dried out the ground and grass. We know about the famous slipperprint. So where are Doug's shoeprints at the scene of the abduction? Or even at the place where tire tracks were taken?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Glad you brought this up.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - MI MI - Venus Rose Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - ABDUCTED - #8


Wet and rainy all day Sunday. At that time of the morning, not yet warm enough or enough sun to have dried out the ground and grass. We know about the famous slipperprint. So where are Doug's shoeprints at the scene of the abduction? Or even at the place where tire tracks were taken?

I have not heard anything about his shoe prints.
WE don't know what kind of shoes the abductor had on. WE don't know where those shoes are now. WE don't know if they were buried next to a body! WE DON'T KNOW. But I bet MSP has a little bit of a clue. JMO

Do you think we know everything MSP has????

 

[Kimberlyd125]

But we know there are tracks and tires to compare those tracks to.

If they don't have the shoes, how will they compare the shoe tracks? Maybe that's why we have not heard anything about them. Because MSP does not have the shoes.

 

[Calliope]

I have not heard anything about his shoe prints.
WE don't know what kind of shoes the abductor had on. WE don't know where those shoes are now. WE don't know if they were buried next to a body! WE DON'T KNOW. But I bet MSP has a little bit of a clue. JMO

Do you think we know everything MSP has????

We know very little, but we know nothing about any evidence his defense attorney has put together.

Whoever abducted her had to have left some sort of shoe impressions behind. Whether he dumped the shoes later or not, matching the size would be yet another piece of circumstantial evidence in their case.

 

[Calliope]

But we know there are tracks and tires to compare those tracks to.

If they don't have the shoes, how will they compare the shoe tracks? Maybe that's why we have not heard anything about them. Because MSP does not have the shoes.

Were there any prints left at the scene, besides Venus' and Larry's (since he admitted to have gone outside before calling police)?