Found Deceased MI - Venus Stewart, 32, Colon, 28 April 2010 - # 8 *D. Stewart guilty*

[thinkaboutthis]

Well, the reason that keeps playing through my head is because I couldn't tell you every step of what I did yesterday. But... if I'd constructed a script or set of instructions for someone to do A, then B, then C, etc, I most definitely would be able to recite that. Every step of it. Easy peasy.

The thing is, people have no reason to track and remember and recite every step of what they did on a certain day, and so, they are unable to readily, upon receiving an unexpected phone call, have one and only one conversation in which they are able to recite every step of what they did on a certain day. We're just not constructed that way, that we can do that.

BBM

Hmmm...If cops called someone on the very same evening that their estranged spouse was abducted and asked for an explanation in detail from the beginning where they were and what they did that day (which would be protocol), I think pretty much anyone could muster up the memory of where they were and what they did that same day. If they couldn't, I would find that suspicious. I would also find it suspicious if LE did not ask him to take them through step-by-step of what he did earlier (that day) in order to verify the information he was giving was accurate. (Which means that people do have a reason to remember and recite every step of what they did on a certain day, because they are being asked to by LE) If you asked someone a month later what they did that day, I would agree, very difficult to say. But at 8pm on the same day? Unless there is some severe early-onset Alzheimer's going on, I don't see it.

 

[spamelope]

I still think that LE grabbed the BG park pass because it is related to DS alibi for Sunday. Those parks have a lot of security cameras as well don't they? I would think that with the number of children that are running around at those places, they would have a ton of security cameras in place just in case some weirdo was there trying to walk out with someone they shouldn't be. IMO

I totally agree. I'm sure they have a lot of cameras everywhere there, too. I wondered why he would have gotten such a late start to the day he had so much to do-ie, drive over 700 miles, buy the Wal-Mart Murder Kit, tool around the old neighborhood, and dig a grave in the rain. Even if he went to BG to establish a fingerprint alibi and left immediately, based on a 10:00 opening, he couldn't have arrived at the Wal-Mart until 9 pm that night.
I sure wish we knew how the BG passes fit into all of this. MSP needs to give us a little more to work with.

 

[spamelope]

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FWIW, here is a picture taken last night at 6:00 pm at the dollar store in Colon.

 

[grayjay]

MSP needs to give us a little more to work with.

Hahahah. I agree. :waitasec:
They seem to think their job is to find the missing and put the criminals behind bars. How dare they keep us from our speculation and 'tainment. It makes them look like they're just sitting around clueless and doing nothing.
:dance:

 

[believe09]

BBM

Hmmm...If cops called someone on the very same evening that their estranged spouse was abducted and asked for an explanation in detail from the beginning where they were and what they did that day (which would be protocol), I think pretty much anyone could muster up the memory of where they were and what they did that same day. If they couldn't, I would find that suspicious. I would also find it suspicious if LE did not ask him to take them through step-by-step of what he did earlier (that day) in order to verify the information he was giving was accurate. (Which means that people do have a reason to remember and recite every step of what they did on a certain day, because they are being asked to by LE) If you asked someone a month later what they did that day, I would agree, very difficult to say. But at 8pm on the same day? Unless there is some severe early-onset Alzheimer's going on, I don't see it.

I dont think he said anything-he lawyered up. Simple. I am not going to answer questions, here is the phone number for my attorney good bye.

This is my opinion. To date, IIRC, MSP has not held a single conversation with DS. Everything has been through his attorney, so attorney is providing alibi information on behalf of DS. And if I were the attorney, I would be completely pissed off. His rep is on the line and if MSP has throroughly cracked the alibi etc, he has likely declined to give any more info whatsoever.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

A man resembling Stewart paid a bill for Stewart at a Newport News law office on April 26, the day Venus disappeared. Also, video recordings show a man resembling Stewart at his apartment complex on that day and a Stewart look-a-like appears on other video recordings in other locations, according to Risko.

http://www.threeriversnews.com/articles/2010/06/03/news/local_news/doc4c07b51d1dccc423171244.txt

Okay, so there are two other Dougs, one that simply resembles him and one that is his look-a-like. Then there is another person who drove one of the vehicles back to MI. He sure has a lot of little helpers for someone that is the one and only person of interest.

Snipped for space.
Spam, I don't think the part you bolded says they think there are two other Dougs. They could have the same man on video at his apartment and at other locations such as where he paid the bill.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The quote was "Obviously that alibi doesn't hold up, so someone was in Virginia, in the Newport News area, pretending to be Doug Stewart, in our belief, to provide an alibi," Risko said." That suggests that they don't know for sure that it isn't him.

I still don't get why they haven't made this video public. If it is clearly not DS they will likely find out who it is pretty quickly if they did that.

But, there are several direct quotes from Risko that say they KNOW the guy on the video paying the bill is not DS.
That's what I meant in the post you quoted.

ETA: You bolded the word belief and said that tells you they don't know for sure that it isn't him. Go back and read the quote from Risko again. They said it is their belief it was to provide an alibi, not it is their belief it was not him.
They know it was not DS.

 

[spamelope]

Hahahah. I agree. :waitasec:
They seem to think their job is to find the missing and put the criminals behind bars. How dare they keep us from our speculation and 'tainment. It makes them look like they're just sitting around clueless and doing nothing.
:dance:

But you have to admit that it was probably Calliope's post listing the vehicle movers that gave LE the direction they needed in figuring out how to get that truck back to MI. So sometimes, sharing info with the public can help out LE.
Releasing the photos of the Doug clones might help in identifying them, too.

 

[BeanE]

The quote was "Obviously that alibi doesn't hold up, so someone was in Virginia, in the Newport News area, pretending to be Doug Stewart, in our belief, to provide an alibi," Risko said."

That suggests that they don't know for sure that it isn't him.

Since Risko says clearly in all the quotes below that they do indeed know for sure it wasn't Doug, the quote above suggests to me that the "in our belief" refers to "to provide an alibi". In other words, LE clearly knows for sure it wasn't Doug, but can't say for sure the imposter's intent or purpose (to provide an alibi) until they interview him or obtain more evidence.

Risko said. “We know this person made multiple appearances in Virginia as Doug Stewart during this narrow timeline. But we now know Mr. Stewart was not in Virginia.”

“He had an alibi that he was in Virginia when Venus disappeared and we learned pretty soon that his alibi didn’t hold up. First we were able to place him at a Walmart in Ohio. We know his alibi is fraudulent.”

“His alibi was he was in Virginia the whole time,” said Lt. Mike Risko, Michigan State Police, “well, we know that's not the case.”

"So, his alibi being in Virginia doesn't hold water," said Lt. Mike Risko of the Michigan State Police. "He was not in Virginia at that time.

"Someone in Newport News, Virginia -- during the time period that Venus came up missing -- was purporting to be Doug Stewart. We know that's not the case.

“We know that Douglas Stewart was not in Virginia the day he said he was — someone was impersonating him.”



Please see my post on the previous page for links to the articles in which Risko stated these.

ETA: Some day I'll learn to read to the end of the thread before replying. Somebody else already pointed this out. Sorry.

 

[spamelope]

Snipped for space.
Spam, I don't think the part you bolded says they think there are two other Dougs. They could have the same man on video at his apartment and at other locations such as where he paid the bill.

True dat, but they have said before that there might be two.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

True dat, but they have said before that there might be two.

I remember that when we first heard about the imposter deal.
I was just going by what I read in that article and commenting. :angel:

 

[BeanE]

I agree with you. Why not release the video to the public instead of this vague description? Hoodie, sunglasses, and baseball cap is not a physical decription. They did not give any approximate height, weight, etc, for the alleged impostor. If the video(s) are of good enough quality for LE to determine that it is "OBVIOUSLY" not DS, then it must also be of good enough quality for someone in the public to possibly recognize the impostor, his physical stature, mannerisms, etc. So why keep that video to themselves?

Seems like a no-brainer to me. Just look for someone who looks like this:

 

[thinkaboutthis]

Seems like a no-brainer to me. Just look for someone who looks like this:

I thought they were looking for someone who did a poor enough job at impersonating DS that LE could tell by the videos...but you think the person or multiple persons on the multiple videos all look exactly like DS down to the height, build, facial features, mannerisms, etc? That would be amazing to find one, let alone multiple DS-lookalikes who could pull that off. Interesting though...

 

[Kimberlyd125]

They will find out who the imposter is.
I just hope he would come forward and say yeah, he did it but had no idea why he was doing it but needed the money. Then after he heard about VS, he knew why DS needed an alibi and he was scared to come forward.
He could give great statements that would help LE.

As far as a money trail, we don't know how much money this guy would have taken to pay a bill for DS and hang out at his apartment could have been $20 to $100 for all we know. Maybe he is a friend who did it for free.

It also would depend on how long DS had planned this. I mean, you can make a $200 w/d here and there over a course of a few weeks and it would not look odd. I do it all the time. Maybe he's been saving his coins. lol

Gas to go, food to eat, and the items at Wal-Mart would not have taken thousands of dollars you think of when you look for a money trail. IMO
A couple hundred bucks cash would have done it.

 

[thinkaboutthis]

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FWIW, here is a picture taken last night at 6:00 pm at the dollar store in Colon.

It's a unicorn!

So in a town of only around what? 1000 people? Someone else has one of these very rare grey, 4-door, Dodge Ram, pickups? I wonder if there are also other white males who squat in Colon? Weird. Maybe this truck is a DS created clone too.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

But the secret would be in the tires, IMO.
The truck could have the same exact tires, but LE will be able to figure out if the tire marks were made by what truck.
What are the odds that the tires will be worn down to exactly the same level???

The impressions from the tires will be key to this. IMO

 

[pufnstuf]

What's the photo supposed to be? I don't get it.

Doug's truck is in Newport News impound, as the car is.

Don't get why a photo of some random Ram in Colon matters.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

What's the photo supposed to be? I don't get it.

Doug's truck is in Newport News impound, as the car is.

Don't get why a photo of some random Ram in Colon matters.

I think they are trying to point out that DS is not the only person who has a truck like this one.
This photo was taken in Colon so they are saying it could have been any Dodge seen across from the house that day.

But, IMO the tire impressions will not match a random truck in Colon. They will match DS's tires. Even if they are the same exact tire.

JMO

 

[spamelope]

Just a coincidence, Puf. Plus, I thought everyone would want to see where MI's finest detective, aka the lady at the Dollar Store works.

 

[pufnstuf]

But the secret would be in the tires, IMO.
The truck could have the same exact tires, but LE will be able to figure out if the tire marks were made by what truck.
What are the odds that the tires will be worn down to exactly the same level???

The impressions from the tires will be key to this. IMO

I agree.

That's a dark gray Ram. I don't think that that fits the description of the Stewart Ram. Theirs is silver.

:shrug: