Ireland Michael Gaine, 56, last seen buying phone credit, Kenmare Co. Kerry, 20 March 25

[imstilla.grandma]

Timeline of eight-week search for missing Kerry farmer Mike Gaine as man in his 50s is arrested

Gardaí have arrested a man in his 50s on suspicion of the murder of farmer Mike Gaine, who disappeared from his farmyard in Kenmare, Co Kerry eight weeks ago.

www.independent.ie

The Defence Forces said members of its Engineer Specialist Search Team were assisting gardaí in Kenmare but would not comment further while the operation was ongoing.

Several personnel were seen digging lands near a barn on Monday afternoon.

Flowers, candles and notes offering condolences to the Gaine family have been left around a wooden post at the entrance to the farm, with a grey woollen cap left on top

Man arrested on suspicion of farmer Michael Gaine’s murder continues to be held - Homepage - Waterford News & Star

Members of the Defence Forces were helping to search farmland.

www.waterford-news.ie

 

[su5ie]

Timeline of eight-week search for missing Kerry farmer Mike Gaine as man in his 50s is arrested

Gardaí have arrested a man in his 50s on suspicion of the murder of farmer Mike Gaine, who disappeared from his farmyard in Kenmare, Co Kerry eight weeks ago.

www.independent.ie

The Defence Forces said members of its Engineer Specialist Search Team were assisting gardaí in Kenmare but would not comment further while the operation was ongoing.

Several personnel were seen digging lands near a barn on Monday afternoon.

Flowers, candles and notes offering condolences to the Gaine family have been left around a wooden post at the entrance to the farm, with a grey woollen cap left on top

Man arrested on suspicion of farmer Michael Gaine’s murder continues to be held - Homepage - Waterford News & Star

Members of the Defence Forces were helping to search farmland.

www.waterford-news.ie

Richard Satchwell replied "guilty, or not guilty, guilty" when charged with the murder of his wife Tina Satchwell, the Central Criminal Court has heard.

Under cross examination from defence counsel, Brendan Grehan, Gda Kelleher said he did not recall gardaí explaining to Mr Satchwell the difference between murder and other forms of homicide, such as manslaughter, at any stage.

Gda Kelleher agreed that Mr Satchwell had admitted to gardaí that he had lied about his wife having disappeared when he was rearrested following the discovery of her body. He agreed that Mr Satchwell told them she died during a struggle with him and had not deviated from that position throughout his detention.

Jury shown chisel found during search of Satchwell house

Richard Satchwell replied "guilty, or not guilty, guilty" when charged with the murder of his wife Tina Satchwell, the Central Criminal Court has heard.

www.rte.ie

Did you post an attachment meant for Tina's thread here along with your post about Mike by an accident tried DM but not going through

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Did you post an attachment meant for Tina's thread here along with your post about Mike by an accident tried DM but not going through

Thank you. Thank you for being so observant. I edited & corrected. Appreciate you! Not sure why it didn't go thru?

 

[su5ie]

Questioning of suspect arrested by gardaí investigating murder of Michael Gaine continues

Gardaí hope searches at the farm of Kerry farmer Michael Gaine will yield clues as to what happened to him

www.irishtimes.com

A lot more information in this article. I particularly noted the information regarding how slurry can break down
body tissue ,

I feel without a confession very little chance imo of proving in a court of law the suspect is a murderer and as mentioned in the article without finding significant parts of Mike's remains , it can't be fully asserted how Mike died and if trauma can be observed to know if he was murdered

Information regarding the suspect in article too

 

[imstilla.grandma]

A MAN WHO was arrested on suspicion of the murder of missing Kerry farmer Michael Gaine has been released without charge.

He was questioned for up to 24 hours.

Gardaí said the family of Michael Gaine have been kept informed of this update, and An Garda Síochána “continue to support Michael’s family through a Family Liaison Officer”.

“The family have requested privacy at this time,” a garda spokesperson said.

Man arrested on suspicion of murdering Kerry farmer Michael Gaine released without charge

The man was arrested on Sunday following the discovery of partial human remains at the missing man’s farm.

www.thejournal.ie

 

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Questioning of suspect arrested by gardaí investigating murder of Michael Gaine continues

Gardaí hope searches at the farm of Kerry farmer Michael Gaine will yield clues as to what happened to him

www.irishtimes.com

A lot more information in this article. I particularly noted the information regarding how slurry can break down
body tissue ,

I feel without a confession very little chance imo of proving in a court of law the suspect is a murderer and as mentioned in the article without finding significant parts of Mike's remains , it can't be fully asserted how Mike died and if trauma can be observed to know if he was murdered

Information regarding the suspect in article too

Suspect released... Now what? He is the only suspect as far as has been reported. Wonder if he is free to leave the country or if there are certain conditions laid down.
We know very little about him.

 

[The Letter C]

Suspect released... Now what? He is the only suspect as far as has been reported. Wonder if he is free to leave the country or if there are certain conditions laid down.
We know very little about him.

I suspected they'd release him. It probably gives them a chance to either go after someone else or go back to him and actually charge him this time pending forensic analysis. I feel like the only way they would've charged him after that 24 hour period is if he confessed, but I highly doubt he said much of anything to convict himself if he was really the killer. As for him leaving the country I did some digging and I can't say for certain what the suspect is able to do. He was indeed arrested but he was also let go after 24 hours. Either way idk if this is possible i'd assume they'd keep tabs on him somehow. This is going to be a really tricky case going forward unless gardai finds solid physical evidence. I'm really hoping justice is served here

 

[su5ie]

Behind the story: Inside the Michael Gaine case

In the latest episode of Behind the Story, RTÉ's Southern Editor Paschal Sheehy joins David and Fran from Kerry to give them an insight into the investigation into Michael Gaine's death.

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Mike Gaine latest as suspect released and cops in murder weapon hunt

GARDAI probing the slurry pit killing of Kerry farmer Michael Gaine were today carrying out searches for the murder weapon. And a man in his 50s, who was known to Michael, has now been released aft…

www.thesun.ie

Man arrested in Gaine inquiry released without charge

A man in his 50s who was arrested on Sunday on suspicion of murdering missing Kerry farmer Michael Gaine has been released without charge.

www.rte.ie

I think posters fears that a suspect
may escape justice including my own fear are more valid in this case where remains have been found . I just cannot see how garda will be able to prove Mike was murdered unless two things happen . One being the obvious confession to murder or two , that a body part large enough is found that determines cause of death . Soft tissue such as lungs etc would be easily broken down so how do forensic officers tell if Mike had an unfortunate accident and was overcome with fumes and drowned.


I really feel pain for the family while it is good that they have recovered some remains to allow for a burial . I don't think they will ever have the closure to fully know how he died tbh .it could have been a most unfortunate accident if the article in the above is to be believed about the possibility search team may have not fully searched or adequately searched the slurry tanks the first time round .

It would be an atrocious failure if they weren't meticulous in that first search . One of the first places that is searched on a farm is a slurry tank as they are so dangerous, to have even overlooked a small aspect within the tanks would be unthinkable in the farming community.
In one of the previous articles I posted an interviewee mentions garda were not asking the right questions or the right people during the investigation I now wonder was this to do with the workings of a farm and how different this is to a murder or accident in any other work place .

What are other posters feelings on all this ?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

TIMELINE​

March 20: Michael Gaine last seen buying phone credit in a Centra shop in Kenmare.

March 21: Michael is reported missing to gardai by his wife Janice.

March 22: Gardai release first missing person appeal seeking any information on missing Michael.

March 22: Over 200 people show up to join a co-ordinated search for Michael as Gardai, the Coast Guard, Civil Defence, and Kerry Mountain Rescue are drafted in to help.

March 24: Gardai issue a renewed appeal for information and excavate the Kenmare farmyard. The large slurry pit is emptied.

March 25: Specialist garda divers are called in to search mountain lakes and a garda helicopter and drones search the farm from the sky.

March 27: Gardai carry out checkpoints and trawl through hours of CCYV footage as Garda Superintendent David Callaghan makes a public appeal.

March 31: Defence Forces personnel are brought in to assist as the search enters its 11th day.

April 3: There were emotional scenes at Kenmare Mart as some cattle and sheep belong to Michael are sold off.

April 15: Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said there were "no leads" in the case.

April 29: Six weeks after the missing persons investigation began the case was upgraded to homicide, giving gardai further investigative powers.

April 30: Gardai hold a press conference in Kenmare as Michael's wife, Janice, and his sister, Noreen O'Regan, appear in a video appeal for the first time, pleading for any information on where the farmer is.

May 16: An area of Michael's farm is declared a crime scene as human remains are found by a family friend spreading slurry.

May 18: A man, aged in his 50s, is arrested on suspicion of the murder of Michael and questioned by gardai.

May 19: The arrested man is released without charge and gardai confirm the search of the farm and its lands is ongoing.
"The family of Michael Gaine have been kept informed of this update and An Garda Siochana continue to support Michael's family through a Family Liaison Officer.

Michael Gaine timeline amid multiple crime scene probe & farm agitator fear

A MAN in his 50s who was arrested on the suspicion of the murder of Michael Gaine was last night released without charge. Gardai are continuing to carry out searches for the murder weapon on Michae…

www.thesun.ie

https://www.thesun.ie/tv/15225778/muireann-oconnell-new-house-favourite/

 

[su5ie]

TIMELINE​

March 20: Michael Gaine last seen buying phone credit in a Centra shop in Kenmare.

March 21: Michael is reported missing to gardai by his wife Janice.

March 22: Gardai release first missing person appeal seeking any information on missing Michael.

March 22: Over 200 people show up to join a co-ordinated search for Michael as Gardai, the Coast Guard, Civil Defence, and Kerry Mountain Rescue are drafted in to help.

March 24: Gardai issue a renewed appeal for information and excavate the Kenmare farmyard. The large slurry pit is emptied.

March 25: Specialist garda divers are called in to search mountain lakes and a garda helicopter and drones search the farm from the sky.

March 27: Gardai carry out checkpoints and trawl through hours of CCYV footage as Garda Superintendent David Callaghan makes a public appeal.

March 31: Defence Forces personnel are brought in to assist as the search enters its 11th day.

April 3: There were emotional scenes at Kenmare Mart as some cattle and sheep belong to Michael are sold off.

April 15: Garda Commissioner Drew Harris said there were "no leads" in the case.

April 29: Six weeks after the missing persons investigation began the case was upgraded to homicide, giving gardai further investigative powers.

April 30: Gardai hold a press conference in Kenmare as Michael's wife, Janice, and his sister, Noreen O'Regan, appear in a video appeal for the first time, pleading for any information on where the farmer is.

May 16: An area of Michael's farm is declared a crime scene as human remains are found by a family friend spreading slurry.

May 18: A man, aged in his 50s, is arrested on suspicion of the murder of Michael and questioned by gardai.

May 19: The arrested man is released without charge and gardai confirm the search of the farm and its lands is ongoing.
"The family of Michael Gaine have been kept informed of this update and An Garda Siochana continue to support Michael's family through a Family Liaison Officer.

Michael Gaine timeline amid multiple crime scene probe & farm agitator fear

A MAN in his 50s who was arrested on the suspicion of the murder of Michael Gaine was last night released without charge. Gardai are continuing to carry out searches for the murder weapon on Michae…

www.thesun.ie

https://www.thesun.ie/tv/15225778/muireann-oconnell-new-house-favourite/

Thanks a million I.G for doing this up , good to have a posted reference for main points of the investigation

 

[FromGermany1]

May 16: An area of Michael's farm is declared a crime scene as human remains are found by a family friend spreading slurry.

So terrible! Imagine!

 

[starlightstarbright]

Hypothetically, if let’s say a lodger who was living on the farm in a caravan or small farm cottage had killed Michael and made it such that he was dumped in the slurry pit but not intact, that act would have created a lot of forensic evidence at the scene.

I’m struggling to imagine where in a small house or caravan this could have occurred, but not been immediately obvious after inspection during the initial investigation. Unless it was done out in one of the farm buildings itself, but then again, not easy to hide or successfully clean up. Or if he was moved to another location and then brought back to the slurry pit. But again, I can’t see how this wouldn’t have left obvious forensic evidence in a vehicle, never mind the challenge of moving the deadweight of quite a large man at least from the scene and into the vehicle.

I’m just a bit stumped that the forensic evidence isn’t leading the investigation in a really obvious direction. All MOO.

 

[su5ie]

Hypothetically, if let’s say a lodger who was living on the farm in a caravan or small farm cottage had killed Michael and made it such that he was dumped in the slurry pit but not intact, that act would have created a lot of forensic evidence at the scene.

I’m struggling to imagine where in a small house or caravan this could have occurred, but not been immediately obvious after inspection during the initial investigation. Unless it was done out in one of the farm buildings itself, but then again, not easy to hide or successfully clean up. Or if he was moved to another location and then brought back to the slurry pit. But again, I can’t see how this wouldn’t have left obvious forensic evidence in a vehicle, never mind the challenge of moving the deadweight of quite a large man at least from the scene and into the vehicle.

I’m just a bit stumped that the forensic evidence isn’t leading the investigation in a really obvious direction. All MOO.

And with so many prying eyes so soon . I'm still unsure this is murder tbh it's one of the most common accidents on a farm and between slurry having the ability to break down body tissue and reports of an agitator being used ,which does have a blade , how sharp is debatable as we don't know so unless a place is found where the dismemberment occurred. I really don't think it can be proved and with only the large tank searched and not the smaller one I feel this mistake will make it too difficult to ascertain what happened.

People can have motives and prehaps mental issues doesn't mean they committed murder even if the person you harbour ill will towards goes missing .

Everytime I read of investigators overlooking things right in front of their eyes it makes me think how many cold cases could have been solved if more heed was paid . I know we are all human and make mistakes but not when the stakes are so high .

 

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And with so many prying eyes so soon . I'm still unsure this is murder tbh it's one of the most common accidents on a farm and between slurry having the ability to break down body tissue and reports of an agitator being used ,which does have a blade , how sharp is debatable as we don't know so unless a place is found where the dismemberment occurred. I really don't think it can be proved and with only the large tank searched and not the smaller one I feel this mistake will make it too difficult to ascertain what happened.

People can have motives and prehaps mental issues doesn't mean they committed murder even if the person you harbour ill will towards goes missing .

Everytime I read of investigators overlooking things right in front of their eyes it makes me think how many cold cases could have been solved if more heed was paid . I know we are all human and make mistakes but not when the stakes are so high .

I don’t know anything about these slurry things but would he have had to be dismembered to would he just have disintegrated in the slurry tank even as one piece