Michelle Young. Murdered Pregnant Mom, NC Part 11

[panthera]

Thanks Charlie. I thought it was a spot from Greta's show now that I think about it. I remember her standing by the front door.

Thanks Domanique!

I remember seeing it in video form also, but can't remember if it was on the news or Greta's.

 

[Samiya]

The two Greta vid's I have are "who killed Michelle Young" and the one with Amanda lamb about the autopsy and insurance. Nothing on either of those

Sami

 

[raisincharlie]

I found it - not a video or even a link unfortunately. This was discussed in an interview Amanda Lamb did with Catherine Crier ( no video, not even a lousy transcript) However check Michelle Young Part 5 pages 11 and 12. Top Sail Girl, Close, Chico, myself - all heard fingerprint dust visible through the front door and that sheet rock may have been removed from somewhere in the house but not visible through the front door.

ETA - now Ms. Lamb will think I am a terrible sleuth - I told her I thought it was an interview with GVS - she is going to send me one of these ::laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Samiya]

Closest I found is http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?postid=8825731&highlight=amanda+lamb+drywall#post8825731

Sami

 

[Kadie]

This was discussed early on in the case (on CTV) that their property taxes weren't paid yet and people wondered if they were in financial trouble.

http://aws1.co.wake.nc.us/ptax/main/billing/acctsummary.aspx?search=re&yrs=2&prev=re&id=0156150

Someone paid JY and MY's property taxes on 12/01/06.

YOUNG, JASON YOUNG, MICHELLE LO34 ENCHANTED OAKS SC2 86-1150 PH1 Location:5108 BIRCHLEAF DR 27606-9360 0000156150-2006-2006-000000Current Due:$0.00Due Date:09/01/2006Interest Begins:01/08/2007Paid in Full:12/01/2006Amount Paid:$2,115.32

 

[Samiya]

Lol@RC...

I just received a pm from someone in ctv asking why Jason would've left Cassidy there if he was the perp. Poor pmer sounded rather distressed and had a few other things to say (not nasty stuff, just very emotional and seems to want to try and understand) so I won't give out their details, I will say that I checked and this person has not posted in ctv at all.

This is the answer I gave the person.

Hi ******,

You sound pretty upset, and I am sorry that you feel like this, so I wont go into a long explaination. Many people here and elsewhere have speculated that Mr Young could be his wife's murderer. It is no different than police speculating really. If Mr Young is his wife's murderer, then Cassidy was left behind as part of his alibi as he would have alot more explaining to do if he was found in Brevard with his daughter with him, considering that he left the house before Michelle was murdered and reports are that Cassidy stayed home with her mom.

If you are a curious person who is finding this case upsetting to read I advise to take a break every now and then and there are alot of tears to be cried.

If you are a friend or family member of either family, please accept my love and best wishes. It is a small consolation, but please understand that as posters and 'sleuthers' we want the same thing that you want. An end to the search, the murderer to be caught, justice to prevail and for family and friends to begin healing parts of their hearts that are crying out to be healed and replaced with beautiful memories of Michelle.


Love and hugs of strength
Sami

 

[raisincharlie]

You are a magnet Sami ! But a very kind one.

 

[Samiya]

You are a magnet Sami ! But a very kind one.

It's sure turning out that way

Lol, my hubby just said "coz you're lovable" and bolted....wonder what he wants/and he can wait! I got a day off today, no call ins **phew**

Sami

 

[raisincharlie]

It's sure turning out that way

Lol, my hubby just said "coz you're lovable" and bolted....wonder what he wants/and he can wait! I got a day off today, no call ins **phew**

Sami

Why do you ladies always think we want something when we say something nice ? Glad you got a day off.

I read your post about the modeling and the poseable imagery - sounds first very intense and detailed but also sounds extremely interesting. Are there computer programs for such as you are doing? I think there is some new software for blood spatter - Hemo Spat but I don't keep up on this stuff.

Did the dimensions from the MagLites come in handy or just waste your time ?

 

[raisincharlie]

Okay folks - here is the email I received from Amanda Lamb - there is no doubt now what was reported - if you want an exact copy of this email pm me and I will forward it to you:


"Lee- the sheetrock was removed upstairs in the bedroom area where the murder happened.

The fingerprint dust was all around the door frame and you could see spots of it in the house. The family has since covered all of the windows and it's no longer possible to see into the home.

I hope this answers your questions.

Best Wishes,

Amanda Lamb"
Sent from Amanda Lamb's Blackberry Handheld Wireless

-----Original Message-----
From: lee
To: Lamb, Amanda
CC: FCC Public File Information; FCC Public File Information
Sent: Sat Feb 03 20:42:14 2007
Subject: WRAL.com Feedback - Evidence

I have removed only email addresses and a phone number.

 

[Samiya]

Why do you ladies always think we want something when we say something nice ? Glad you got a day off.

I read your post about the modeling and the poseable imagery - sounds first very intense and detailed but also sounds extremely interesting. Are there computer programs for such as you are doing? I think there is some new software for blood spatter - Hemo Spat but I don't keep up on this stuff.

Did the dimensions from the MagLites come in handy or just waste your time ?

The 3D modelling is done on my computer. I haven't done the maglite dimensions yet......I have to create 3d models of each size so it will take awhile. The software I have was created by my son. The closest I've seen to the program is one called "poser". I also have a lifesized real mannequin that I use....no not hubby, although I do use him for when I need the movements.

I've heard of Hemo Spat but I'm not sure if I'll be able to get it. I read about it awhile ago and haven't checked up since...totally forgot so thanks for the reminder!

My hubby is a jokester and I have a seriously sick sense of humour (Can you hear them screaming Clarice, lol). We're always joking about folks who have to 'get it' every 15 minutes of the day, lol. Our marriage is built on friendship and the rest of our marriage, including the marriage certificate, is a delightful 'bonus' for us

Sami

 

[Samiya]

Okay folks - here is the email I received from Amanda Lamb - there is no doubt now what was reported - if you want an exact copy of this email pm me and I will forward it to you:


"Lee- the sheetrock was removed upstairs in the bedroom area where the murder happened.

The fingerprint dust was all around the door frame and you could see spots of it in the house. The family has since covered all of the windows and it's no longer possible to see into the home.

I hope this answers your questions.

Best Wishes,

Amanda Lamb"
Sent from Amanda Lamb's Blackberry Handheld Wireless [email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: lee
To: Lamb, Amanda
CC: FCC Public File Information; FCC Public File Information
Sent: Sat Feb 03 20:42:14 2007
Subject: WRAL.com Feedback - Evidence

I have removed only email addresses and a phone number.

Thanks RC

I'll pm you.

I have anyway because I noticed something interesting!

Sami

 

[scandi]

I'm home!
That was so funny I about fainted right down to the floor! lol

Good job Charlie, So that means the ding from a weapon downstairs is a bit of poppycock {no fault of our source}, as they would have cut that out for sure. So it had to be blood spatter upstairs as they mentioned that in the SW. The murder happened upstairs, so she wasn't moved, there was fingerprint dust around the door frame {I wonder if that is the front door or a door leading into the Foyer from the garage which one could see through the paned glass of the front door}, and she could see other spots of figerprint dust in the house.

Hmm. She didn't go inside, but rather looked through that tall glass pane where she would have a good view. And that dust is black, right? Now I'm trying to figure out what our Sami has thought of. LOL You can't see in through windows anymore - Oh, I got it!

Amanda walked around the house and looked in the windows. She didn't just stand at the front door. That is how she saw fingerprint dust in other spots of the house. Hmm they did a lot of testing for fingerprints.

This was way cool: Sent from Amanda Lamb's Blackberry Handheld Wireless Gotta love it!

Thanks Charlie, and Sami, your 3 dimension modeling sounds fascinating. How in the world do you find time to do everything you do! :blowkiss:

 

[raisincharlie]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'm home!
That was so funny I about fainted right down to the floor! lol

I thought that might make you smile !

 

[scandi]

:blowkiss: It made me feel I have a home away from home!

 

[Samiya]

I'm home!

Thanks Charlie, and Sami, your 3 dimension modeling sounds fascinating. How in the world do you find time to do everything you do! :blowkiss:

I suffer from sleep paralysis so alot of my sleuthing stuff is done if I'm not working at night or doing my other hobby. I've almost got a phobia of going to sleep so I stay awake until I'm dropping onto my keyboard if I'm at home. I get roughly 2 to 3 hours sleep a night. And because I don't sleep much I have to keep my mind active. About once every 2 months I'll actually have 8 to 12 hours sleep.

Sami

 

[scandi]

That is awful, A lot of nights I'll wake up at say 4am and can't go back to sleep till 6am. Then I'll sleep till 8am and will fell logy, like I didn't get enough sleep. I'm a bad girl though, as I am so used to the TV I don't turn it off when I go to bed, just down in volume. That might be why.

Well off to bone my chicken and add back to the soup so I can call it a night and watch SNL! I'm going to get over this cold, ASAP lol

:blowkiss: Scandi

 

[raisincharlie]

Good Morning folks, have made the checks of the news outlets, sorry there is nothing to report. Was seriously hoping that the perp in this case would be viewing the Super Bowl with new found friends but I quess not. Perhaps a half time surprise is in order ?

For those of you who just check the last page of a thread, please note, no sheetrock was removed from the foyer area of the home. It was removed from the upstairs bedroom where the murder occurred. All that could be seen from the windows around the front door was finger print dust around the door and at other areas that could be seen from looking through those windows. This information comes direct from Amanda Lamb who first reported this information and was indeed very kind in responding to an email - thank you very much. Hope that answers some questions.

 

[raisincharlie]

Sami,


Since you are well versed and obviously skilled with things audio, a few questions for you if and when you have time. Since it has been reported that:

JY left a voice mail for Meredith about picking up whatever it was;

and there are rumors swirling that JY tried to call Michelle twice on Friday morning;

and an answering machine was taken from the home;

and other phones have been confiscated and analyzed for voicemail;

1. Can the voice mail left for Meredith (if recovered) be analyzed for stress levels (not sure that is the correct terminology but I know you know where I'm going)?

2. If Jy left any messages on the home machine - could the same be done ?

3. Could these voice samples be compared for variation against voicemails or messages left with anyone and occuring prior to the murder?

4. Under the NTO - what are the possibilites that LE recorded the activities and could this be used for comparison or would a specific voice sample be required ?

TIA

 

[close_enough]

And here it is by CC:
http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=279424&perpage=40&pagenumber=15


"I believe they left around 10:30 and the Jason called her at around 11pm and all was ok." ConcernedCitizen

Gee, we should have made a list of everything said by every insider. LOL Maybe Bee did.


So Barney, we have this by both CC and JTF, and they are within a day of being posted. Velly Intellesting! ;}

ETA: CC's post @ CTV was at 6:59pm on Nov 15th
JTF's post @ Misfits was at 11pm on Nov 15th

Amazing!

whoa Scandi....i KNOW that took awhile to find, girl!!!!!...i think it's very possible that they're the same person, or that's a mighty big coincidence...CC probably changed his/her name to JTF when he/she found Misfits....

hope you're feeling better...don't let that head & chest thing get out of hand!