Michelle Young. Murdered Pregnant Mom, NC Part 14

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I remember a post you wrote Sami which said the reason a judge could override patient privlege {sp ] is if there was something that would show the possibility of physical harm to someone.

I think Michelle told the therapist about a threat on her life from someone, and she was scared to death it might come true and didn't know how to address the problem. LE won't do anything to protect someone from a threat, only from an overt act. And a court order to restrain is worthless when that threat turns into a person who starts to strangle you!

Geez, I've just gotten more sad tonight thinking about Michelle's last few months of life, after contemplating how she dealt with the tragic loss of her baby, and whether there were other marital problems, etc.

Then to your thought that she had been threatened, possibly. I hope that wasn't the case, that she wasn't fearful of anyone. However, IF that were the case, and she shared that fear with the therapist...I HOPE THE THERAPIST TOOK AWESOME, DETAILED NOTES...AND THEY ZOOM THE WORDS UP ON BIG POSTER SIZE PAPER AND HANG IT AS PROSECUTION EXHIBIT # ___________! Let Michelle's words come back to haunt the killer.

On that note, I'm up way past my bedtime, LOL. Just had to get my WS fix. Good night y'all. A nice civil night it was, compared to the last few over on the Dark Side, hahahaha.

 

[raisincharlie]

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What if Michelle wasn't feeling that excitement? That could cause an emotional riff, don't you think? Kinda like the pressure to be expected to be happy, when maybe she wasn't? She could have felt anger, loss, fear, guilt, etcc...

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DD,

I think this is a very astute observation.

I remember what a terrible time my wife had trying to cope with the loss of a baby, it was unbelievable and I have never felt more helpless in my life as there was nothing I could do to help her other than to be there and to just listen.

I suspect there may have been little listening going on in this case based on JYs actions and subsequent affair. He wasn't there either - California vacation and new job that took him away 3 to 4 days a week. Trip to Denver over their anniversary in October, another trip somewhere in September - he wasn't around much. JMO of course.

FactsareFacts, please accept my very heartfelt condolences for what you have had to deal with. Sending you good thoughts.

 

[scandi]

You guys are so right. Those last few months of her life was when a lot of what Charlie talks about was happening with him being gone alot. Michelle had a lot of time to think, and what with the Ca trip and whatever she heard from her S sisters, I think she knew the writing was on the wall that their marriage was not salvagable, and think she had made that decision.

Add in that factor. Anticipation on how she would handle two small children, go through the divorce and have all the thoughts of anger, loss, fear and guilt creep into her mind when her mood was low.


Nite all, Logged out, read your posts and just had to come back in for a minute. Charlie, I'm sorry you and your family lost a baby. I am thankful that your wife had you though to listen and love her. And Facts, sounds like you have a great hubby. It is so hard to understand when you lose a child, especially a baby.

 

[Samiya]

I might start another thread all ready for morning....

All those who want to, if you click on quote for your posts today, you can copy and paste them to the new thread to continue the discussion.

Sami

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

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What if Michelle wasn't feeling that excitement? That could cause an emotional riff, don't you think? Kinda like the pressure to be expected to be happy, when maybe she wasn't? She could have felt anger, loss, fear, guilt, etcc...

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DD,

I think this is a very astute observation.

I remember what a terrible time my wife had trying to cope with the loss of a baby, it was unbelievable and I have never felt more helpless in my life as there was nothing I could do to help her other than to be there and to just listen.

I suspect there may have been little listening going on in this case based on JYs actions and subsequent affair. He wasn't there either - California vacation and new job that took him away 3 to 4 days a week. Trip to Denver over their anniversary in October, another trip somewhere in September - he wasn't around much. JMO of course.

FactsareFacts, please accept my very heartfelt condolences for what you have had to deal with. Sending you good thoughts.

Awwww, man, RC, didn't know that about you and your wife. But what you said is so true. The helplessness of watching someone go through the pain of such loss. When there's not much more you can do but be there and just listen, as you so perfectly described. Trying to find the balance between "being there" and not hovering, etc. Knowing what to say, when to say it, or knowing when to be silent, etc. Bless you for being a caring person for her, when I'm sure you had your own thoughts and feelings to be dealt with.

////Just last week, our Agency buried "one of us." He was 29 years old, died on duty due to a traffic accident. Father of 3 daughters under the age of 4 (from what I was told, I never personally met him since he's not in my Region)...and his wife is pregnant with a girl. Certainly, there's enough heartache to go around for everyone involved, but I was also verbalizing my hurt for them to a friend, and just saying I can't imagine what this wife's day of delivery will be like. What should be a joyous time, with her hubby by her side, will be bittersweet at best. Tears of joy mixed with tears of sorrow, I'm sure.////

Although my sharing that was a little OT for a moment, I can picture Michelle feeling somewhat the same. Happy when bringing a new baby into this world, but many thoughts of her son that didn't make it.

Naw, the more I think about it, I don't think her seeing a therapist had anything to do with sex therapy in the traditional sense. I'm going to make a leap and assume it was for something related to marital problems or stresses, or general depression, or something like that. IF there were marital strains of some sort, financial pressure, various emotions of having to deal with the loss of the baby, PLUS being pregnant again, having a toddler at home and working full time...not a big stretch to imagine that she could have been feeling overwhelmed, IMO. Again, not a hard and fast assumption, but JMO until if/when we find out more details. I'm not going off on some wild-azz theory until we have reason to do so.

Good morning, y'all!!!

 

[melaki]

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But in all probability there is that possibility. I'm sure DAWGIE even remembers the day we learned that Scott Peterson laid with Victor in the master bed in the house on Covena when Laci was out of town. Our mouths were all agape, our brains torqing at the thought of it. We will just have to wait and see.

I didn't follow the SP case but I never heard about that. Can someone give me the details if they don't mind through a PM since it's off topic? I will say though, that I've really been thinking about the possibilities of there being some truth in this with Jason. It makes sense that a ladies man is sometimes just that because of trying to mask what they (and their families) find as unacceptable behavior. JMO of course.