Michelle Young, Pregnant Mom, Murdered NC Part 10

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  • #221
panthera said:
I too am hoping they've got something after all the days spent in the house collecting evidence! :cool:

i hope so too...i'm with you & Taximom....they spent a LOT of time in the home collecting evidence....the Sheriff even mentioned in one article that they collected "tons" of evidence.....i know that doesn't mean that any of it points to JY, but they combed over that house really well, is what i gather....

probably should find a link for that comment the Sheriff made, but it's in one of the articles on the "media links" thread....
 
  • #222
close_enough said:
i'm still thinking he did....at least for the time being...i think he at least stopped & discussed 'business' with someone in VA...
Morning Close,

I agree - he could have stopped and discussed something business related with someone - but that doesn't mean he had an early morning "scheduled" meeting. He could have gone by Duffield area just to pick up a bid package - that would be business related but not necessarily requiring a scheduled time to do so.

Don't you wonder why the location of this meeting has never come out? Even blabbering Fussell couldn't spit out a location other than VA... intriguing no one will say where - or no one knows where. JMO.
 
  • #223
Keep at it RC - you're convincing me! I also agree with PacFan that he would want to be seen on the morning of the 3rd. He's conveniently left his hotel receipt & others in his vehicle for his alibi so he needs to be seen at this suspicious "meeting".

Maybe that was the intention but like you say - since we know there was a struggle at the murder scene, he couldn't be seen because of some sort of injury.

I wonder what's entailed with picking up a bidding package if he did that. Surely, there would be some formality to that?
 
  • #224
I can only think that if he was at a meeting, it wasn't a sales meeting with a 'client'. Chartone already has sales personnel in Virginia, so what reason is there for a North Carolina employee (let alone a possible probationary employee) to travel to VA to sell to a client residing there when it's cheaper for them businesswise to send a VA Sales person? If you look at the job vacancies at Chartone, it seems that employees have a sales area. Any out of town or overnight stayers would probably be for training purposes or personnel meetings or conferences.

Due to Jason's lack of cooperation with LE, I don't think he would've told them where he stayed during the phone call. They found that out during the search of his SUV, same as where he stopped for gas fills. So by that time, the cleaner would've already cleaned the hotel room he had apparently stayed in, sheets would've been washed etc. They could still go over the room with a vacuum sweeper as I would hazard a guess and say that if the room was in a clean state, the cleaner would've given it a quick go over, but hopefully not a thorough clean.

LE would questioned the cleaner as to whether or not the bed appeared to be slept in. Depending on how observant the cleaner is she/he may have noticed that the bed may have been crumpled but without tell tale signs of having actually been slept in.....ie sheets etc 'with signs of heat creasing from a body laying in it for a period of time' as opposed to just messed up to look like it was slept in.

Sami

MOO..

(I'm starting to sound like a cow, lmao)
 
  • #225
raisincharlie said:
Morning Close,

I agree - he could have stopped and discussed something business related with someone - but that doesn't mean he had an early morning "scheduled" meeting. He could have gone by Duffield area just to pick up a bid package - that would be business related but not necessarily requiring a scheduled time to do so.

Don't you wonder why the location of this meeting has never come out? Even blabbering Fussell couldn't spit out a location other than VA... intriguing no one will say where - or no one knows where. JMO.

yes, i do wonder about that, but i also wonder why LE hasn't released the autopsy, or the ME's time of death....LE's just not saying anything about anything, & that's what drives me crazy ...... & the word "scheduled" could mean that's how JY would describe it....he had scheduled a meeting with someone, somewhere in VA... i really think JY wouldn't have told Fussell this bit of info, if he hadn't met up with someone relating to business in VA, the morning of Nov 3rd.....there's someone 'out there' that knows about this 'business meeting'....someone 'out there' that talked business with JY the morning of the 3rd, imo......i believe LE has talked with this person, but they just can't pin down the complete timeline.....ugh, i want to know if there really was an 11 pm phone call!!!!!!!!....i think LE already knows if there was one....they've had plenty of time to find out through phone records...that's another thing that LE isn't talking about either, ugh.......
 
  • #226
I think we'd have more of a chance seeing a Yeti before seeing JY out and about at the moment.
 
  • #227
jilly said:
Keep at it RC - you're convincing me! I also agree with PacFan that he would want to be seen on the morning of the 3rd. He's conveniently left his hotel receipt & others in his vehicle for his alibi so he needs to be seen at this suspicious "meeting".

Maybe that was the intention but like you say - since we know there was a struggle at the murder scene, he couldn't be seen because of some sort of injury.

I wonder what's entailed with picking up a bidding package if he did that. Surely, there would be some formality to that?
Jilly,

I'm really not trying to convince anyone as much as I'm trying to get other thoughts to convince myself. I often tend to over-analyze things. For me this "scheduled" meeting has never added up, even from the git go. I'm inviting the conversations incase I have missed something - which happens frequently! :crazy:

Pack_fan gave me a good run and made me think outside "my box" - that's a good thing ! That one little tidbit from Richard Johnson in the people mag article sent me over the edge with this thought - I just do not believe there was a firm, established, business (ChartOne related) meeting anywhere in Virginia. JMO of course - I keep studying Johnsons words...
 
  • #228
pack_fan said:
With as little info as we have to work with, we could be so far off course that we may never make it back.

true....
 
  • #229
Samiya said:
I think we'd have more of a chance seeing a Yeti before seeing JY out and about at the moment.

Oh Sami - :laugh: Now that made me LOL!
 
  • #230
raisincharlie said:
Sometimes what is not said is equally as important as what is uttered. So far I have heard nothing saying JY has been cleared of any wrong doing in connection with this case. By now, if JY had an air tight alibi that checked out - that statement should have been forthcoming from LE in light of the media making it rather obvious by the public release of warrants aimed specifically at him.

i don't think JY had a "air tight" alibi in the eyes of LE....i think LE just can't pin him down in the hours betw midnight & 6 am, on the 3rd...(most folks are asleep, but i think JY was driving, most of that time, with his cell turned off)...unless someone actually saw him out & about in the wee hours of the morning of the 3rd, LE is going to have to rely on other evidence somehow (if there's any).....they need to show that he was IN the home sometime betw those hours, & i think they're having trouble w/that, & that's why they haven't come out & said he had an air tight alibi...they're still working around other things/evidence...i just find it hard to believe that the forensic evidence STILL hasn't come back from a lab with results...it's been what..over 8 weeks now for some of it?
 
  • #231
raisincharlie said:
Jilly,

I'm really not trying to convince anyone as much as I'm trying to get other thoughts to convince myself. I often tend to over-analyze things. For me this "scheduled" meeting has never added up, even from the git go. I'm inviting the conversations incase I have missed something - which happens frequently! :crazy:

Pack_fan gave me a good run and made me think outside "my box" - that's a good thing ! That one little tidbit from Richard Johnson in the people mag article sent me over the edge with this thought - I just do not believe there was a firm, established, business (ChartOne related) meeting anywhere in Virginia. JMO of course - I keep studying Johnsons words...

ok, i read the article, but i'm not remembering what the tidbit from Richard Johnson was...i already mailed my copy to Sami, so i can't go back & look at it....what was the tidbit?...if it's here in the thread, i'm missing it somehow..
 
  • #232
Samiya said:
I can only think that if he was at a meeting, it wasn't a sales meeting with a 'client'. Chartone already has sales personnel in Virginia, so what reason is there for a North Carolina employee (let alone a possible probationary employee) to travel to VA to sell to a client residing there when it's cheaper for them businesswise to send a VA Sales person? If you look at the job vacancies at Chartone, it seems that employees have a sales area. Any out of town or overnight stayers would probably be for training purposes or personnel meetings or conferences.

Due to Jason's lack of cooperation with LE, I don't think he would've told them where he stayed during the phone call. They found that out during the search of his SUV, same as where he stopped for gas fills. So by that time, the cleaner would've already cleaned the hotel room he had apparently stayed in, sheets would've been washed etc. They could still go over the room with a vacuum sweeper as I would hazard a guess and say that if the room was in a clean state, the cleaner would've given it a quick go over, but hopefully not a thorough clean.

LE would questioned the cleaner as to whether or not the bed appeared to be slept in. Depending on how observant the cleaner is she/he may have noticed that the bed may have been crumpled but without tell tale signs of having actually been slept in.....ie sheets etc 'with signs of heat creasing from a body laying in it for a period of time' as opposed to just messed up to look like it was slept in.

Sami

MOO..

(I'm starting to sound like a cow, lmao)
Thanks Sami - I agree. I can't find or even invent an explanation why a probationary type employee would be covering VA when ChartOne has a rep setting in Blacksburg VA, as well as other locations in VA.

I also agree JY told LE nothing from the begining - buying time IMO. I can also accept that JY telling nothing to LE means LE has to figure it out - if no meeting can be found through all the phone data, receipts, or computer data LE will be hard pressed to say he was not at a meeting - no DA is going to like that - too much of a potential for surprise at trial It is an aspect which must be resolved either way for the state. As much as JY needs an alibi - he is still somewhat covered if no one can locate him exactly - LE cannot definitively say there was or was not a meeting if it is never discovered - this alibi aspect works both ways IMO.
 
  • #233
close_enough said:
ok, i read the article, but i'm not remembering what the tidbit from Richard Johnson was...i already mailed my copy to Sami, so i can't go back & look at it....what was the tidbit?...if it's here in the thread, i'm missing it somehow..
http://celebrity.aol.com/people/ataol/articles/0,,20007855,00.html

" What happened next surprised them. "Italked to [Jason], offered him condolences and said, 'I'm sorry for the timing, but we need your assistance in this case,' " says Wake County Sheriff Chief of Operations Richard Johnson. "And he has refused to comply."

If this quote did not come from LE direct - it would not have caught my attention. This does imply JY offered nothing in the phone call, nothing when he arrived in Raleigh - nothing at all.
 
  • #234
Well.....hopefully the lab reports will speak on JY's behalf.

eta - and hopefully some delivery person did see his vehicle at the house in the early hours of the morning like someone posted at CTV.

and hopefully someone did see him in his travels throughout that nite. You never know. I think in the Peterson case, there were sightings of SP. Maybe some alert trucker saw him. If the police don't have anything, I'm surprised that they wouldn't be making a plea of some sort for people to come forward.
 
  • #235
raisincharlie said:
http://celebrity.aol.com/people/ataol/articles/0,,20007855,00.html

" What happened next surprised them. "Italked to [Jason], offered him condolences and said, 'I'm sorry for the timing, but we need your assistance in this case,' " says Wake County Sheriff Chief of Operations Richard Johnson. "And he has refused to comply."

If this quote did not come from LE direct - it would not have caught my attention. This does imply JY offered nothing in the phone call, nothing when he arrived in Raleigh - nothing at all.

i agree...we've pretty much thought that all along...no wonder it's being repeated over & over & over that LE would sure like to talk to JY....LE is having to figure everything out without JY's help....they have to figure out who all (if anyone) had keys to the house.....if anything was missing from the house, etc......JY is a worm, imo :mad:
 
  • #236
raisincharlie said:
http://celebrity.aol.com/people/ataol/articles/0,,20007855,00.html

" What happened next surprised them. "Italked to [Jason], offered him condolences and said, 'I'm sorry for the timing, but we need your assistance in this case,' " says Wake County Sheriff Chief of Operations Richard Johnson. "And he has refused to comply."

If this quote did not come from LE direct - it would not have caught my attention. This does imply JY offered nothing in the phone call, nothing when he arrived in Raleigh - nothing at all.

It sure speaks volumes. He doesn't say if he sounded upset or anything. Jason has to know that he looks guilty as sin.
 
  • #237
close_enough said:
i agree...we've pretty much thought that all along...no wonder it's being repeated over & over & over that LE would sure like to talk to JY....LE is having to figure everything out without JY's help....they have to figure out who all (if anyone) had keys to the house.....if anything was missing from the house, etc......JY is a worm, imo :mad:

He is sooooo guilty in my mind. And if he did pack enough clothes that nite because he knew he wouldn't be getting into the house for awhile as another poster suggested he's really put some thought into this.

Like I said before - come onnnnnn lab reports!!
 
  • #238
close_enough said:
ok, i read the article, but i'm not remembering what the tidbit from Richard Johnson was...i already mailed my copy to Sami, so i can't go back & look at it....what was the tidbit?...if it's here in the thread, i'm missing it somehow..
You sent me your copy? I thought you sent me a spare one :doh:

Anyway, thanks *big hugs* :) and I sent you docs in word format so you can keep them on your computer.

Love
Sami
 
  • #239
jilly said:
He is sooooo guilty in my mind. And if he did pack enough clothes that nite because he knew he wouldn't be getting into the house for awhile as another poster suggested he's really put some thought into this.

Like I said before - come onnnnnn lab reports!!

i know jilly....LE is keeping EVERYTHING very close to the vest....i've never seen anything like it before :confused:
 
  • #240
Samiya said:
You sent me your copy? I thought you sent me a spare one :doh:

Anyway, thanks *big hugs* :) and I sent you docs in word format so you can keep them on your computer.

Love
Sami

oh, it's no big deal Sami....i read it, then mailed it right on out...i could have bought another copy, but didn't ..... heck, that link you posted for the article is perfect though, on the "People Mag" thread....thanks!
 
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