Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 18

[harleysnana]

Something else new in Ms. Lamb's story:

[--Jake

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Young talked with investigators the day his wife's body was found and later gave fingerprints under a court order, but Harrison said he has generally been uncooperative with law-enforcement authorities.

"Why hasn't he talked to us? I can't give you that answer, because he won't talk to us," Harrison said. "If he talked to us, would it help this case? Absolutely."

Wonder why he doesn't want to help the case?
:waitasec:

 

[Anuniaq]

Hi Anuniak, Dried blood in a plush carpet, as Jake said was in that br, if you step on it, it will descimate that dried blood into powder really fast, which will fall down to the base of the carpet and not be seen. Dried blood has a perpensity to fracture upon contact, and I think this is why they say they saw no footprints 'everywhere', as Meredith did. Just my thought.

Scandi

I was also thinking of places that might not have carpet where Jake has said he saw no footprints where maybe there "should" have been. If they were cleaned up by the killer, the techs could see them with chemicals, but they would not remain visible to the naked eye.

Your description for what would happen to dried blood on a carpet sounds interesting and could very well be why more footprints were not obvious 2 weeks after the murder.

 

[jilly]

Well, I gotta say, I'm getting tired of reading between the lines. Jake I would really appreciate it if you could be more specific.

I don't know what to make of this latest article by Amanda. Kinda sounds like it would be a defense leak if anything.

On the otherhand, I guess it could be 'misinformation' put out by LE which is not unheard of. We have read that Amanda and LE are very tight and that she has been given some info 'off the record'.

 

[SewingDeb]

i think we're more surprised to hear they didn't do one. but i also understand their reasoning, she was still clothed and i've never heard of a rapist reclothing their victim. so i guess they figured it was safe to assume it wasn't needed.

I've heard of several cases where a rapist/murderer reclothed their victim....all in North Carolina! They really should have done the rape kit regardless of whether she was dressed or not.

 

[strach304]

It's this or that. A rapist will use condoms so maybe someone in the house found condoms and then later found out that Jason did not use them. Fingerprints could have been on the unused package. An attempted rape could've taken place or a staged one, if you get my drift.

I cannot see LE overlooking a used one found somewhere in the bedroom simply because they'd want to make sure it was Jason's dna. A rapist would not leave a used one there. As for the matter with her clothes she wouldn't need to be nude or redressed if someone tried but didn't succeed. Whatever object she was beat with could have been something she picked up and hit them with.

 

[Bellgardin]

considering Michelle was already pregnant i doubt JY was using condoms with her. although, if she was afraid of getting some kind of infection she might have wanted to. like if she thought he might be cheating on her.

I agree with you. Who's to say Michelle even knew that they were there? Maybe JY was using them with someone else?

 

[Bellgardin]

Something else new in Ms. Lamb's story:

"The sheriff's department has been very careful, as I understand it, in keeping an open mind and not narrowing it and coming up with one suspect," Wake County Assistant District Attorney Becky Holt told WRAL in her first interview.

I believe this is someone new assigned to this case. Can't recall seeing her name before.

I notice also for the first time someone in LE is denying having tunnel vision in this case. Surely LE doesn't read message board criticism! I read this as backing off from the ONE suspect who has been the focus of the investigation.

--Jake

It's NOT the first time someone in LE is denying having tunnel vision. If you go back and read the articles almost every one of them has a reference from the police about not rushing to judgement or refusing to name a suspect, or something of that nature. I think you are reading what you want to read, not necessarily what is really there. The police have also repeatedly said if JY would talk to them it would help them solve the case, but he hasn't done that. It still gives the impression to me that he's more concerned about covering his rear than finding out who murdered his wife and son, regardless of what his attorney says he should do. I know you're never going to agree with me about this, but that's okay because I'm never going to agree with you about it either. Even D Horowitz talked to the police and he's a defense attorney-why??? He had nothing to hide even though he knew he would be considered a suspect.

 

[Bellgardin]

A woman is found beaten to death IN HER BEDROOM (for emphasis) and yet no sexual assault test? Wonder how long it takes to do one? Maybe it's just too expensive? Maybe LE already knew the name of the killer?

Hmmmm. I think someone already regrets that decision.

--Jake

Surprisingly, I agree with you that the rape kit should have been done. Even though I think it makes NO DIFFERENCE (for emphasis) what room her body was found in. This may come as a shock, but rapists don't just rape women in the bedroom, they do it all over the house and sometimes outside! I understand that there was no initial visible evidence of a sexual assault, but I think it's always a good idea to collect the kit just in case. It ties up a loose end, and those are never good to have in a murder investigation. That's JMO. But on the other hand, during the autopsy if they would have found any indication of trauma to that area of her body, they would have done the kit, so I still feel that there was no sexual assault.

 

[jake]

Surprisingly, I agree with you that the rape kit should have been done. Even though I think it makes NO DIFFERENCE (for emphasis) what room her body was found in. This may come as a shock, but rapists don't just rape women in the bedroom, they do it all over the house and sometimes outside! I understand that there was no initial visible evidence of a sexual assault, but I think it's always a good idea to collect the kit just in case. It ties up a loose end, and those are never good to have in a murder investigation. That's JMO. But on the other hand, during the autopsy if they would have found any indication of trauma to that area of her body, they would have done the kit, so I still feel that there was no sexual assault.

Surprised? Not me.

Why just trauma? Wouldn't LE be interested in knowing if Michelle had sex that night, and with whom?

--Jake

 

[jake]

If Tharington -Smith wants to bring the possibility of a rape forward, Jason and the court can simply authorize an exhumation and examination so they can prove rape and clear his name.....will it happen ? No , because MF-Y was NOT raped.

Hi, Barney, welcome back to the real world. So nice to hear the voice of knowledge: MF-Y was NOT raped. Thank you.

And if MF-Y were raped, this would clear JY-Y's name. And all JY-Y has to do is authorize an exhumation. Thank you again.

--Jake

 

[Bellgardin]

Surprised? Not me.

Why just trauma? Wouldn't LE be interested in knowing if Michelle had sex that night, and with whom?

--Jake

I really hope that you are not intimating that MY was having an affair while she was pregnant. That's despicable.

 

[Bellgardin]

Hi, Barney, welcome back to the real world. So nice to hear the voice of knowledge: MF-Y was NOT raped. Thank you.

And if MF-Y were raped, this would clear JY-Y's name. And all JY-Y has to do is authorize an exhumation. Thank you again.

--Jake

And if she wasn't raped?????

 

[jake]

I really hope that you are not intimating that MY was having an affair while she was pregnant. That's despicable.

I get it. LE would have insulted Michelle by checking.

--Jake

 

[jake]

And if she wasn't raped?????

Ask Barney.

--Jake

 

[jake]

"I believe this is someone new assigned to this case. Can't recall seeing her name before."

Thank you board members! This speculation by me ("I believe" and "can't recall") generated a total of 11 posts.

Thank you Athy, Raisincharlie, Nomimi, Scandi, Jilly. I hope you will continue to make sure my speculations are accurate.

This is 12, my opinion only.

--Jake

 

[Bellgardin]

I get it. LE would have insulted Michelle by checking.

--Jake

Wrong again. Stop deliberately twisting my words into what you want to hear. Posts such as yours are why I don't post on other boards-especially when you were posting there.

The insult is that you are insinuating there was an affair by anyone other than JY and you know it-end of story.

 

[Bellgardin]

Ask Barney.

--Jake

I don't need to ask anyone, I'm perfectly capable of my own thoughts.

 

[jake]

Wrong again. Stop deliberately twisting my words into what you want to hear. Posts such as yours are why I don't post on other boards-especially when you were posting there.

The insult is that you are insinuating there was an affair by anyone other than JY and you know it-end of story.

I get it. You don't like my posts. You really should put me on ignore.

You insinuate LE would have insulted Michelle and her memory if they had checked. I disagree. I think they should have checked.

--Jake

 

[athy]

but wouldn't the embalming methods contaminate any evidence like that and make it harder. it might show if she was but not be an accurate dna results to say who.

 

[Bellgardin]

I get it. You don't like my posts. You really should put me on ignore.

You insinuate LE would have insulted Michelle and her memory if they had checked. I disagree. I think they should have checked.

--Jake

I really hope that you are not intimating that MY was having an affair while she was pregnant. That's despicable.

Did you read anything I wrote???? Show me where in my post above where I said anything about LE let alone insinuated they would have insulted MY if they would have done the rape kit!!!! I AGREED WITH YOU (emphasis added so maybe you'll see it) that the kit should have been done.

One last time, I said what was insulting was you insinuating that MY had sex with someone besides JY. Hope you have it now.