Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 18

[scandi]

Hi Scout, And I do believe Barney in his report on seeing the autopsy photos, mentions that whoever he was talking to said it was Michelle's tooth.

 

[jake]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=local&id=4811361

Although it has not yet been tested they believe the tooth belonged to Michelle Young, not her killer.

Thanks, Scout. Let a poster try that "they believe" stuff on this board. The cries for LINK! LINK! would be deafening.

--Jake

 

[jake]

Hi Scout, And I do believe Barney in his report on seeing the autopsy photos, mentions that whoever he was talking to said it was Michelle's tooth.

And Barney didn't ask for a LINK? Doesn't sound like the Barney I know.

--Jake

 

[spring]

You think they dug Michelle up to check the tooth and socket? I doubt it.

--Jake

a very good friend of mine who works in a dental office said they do not need the mouth to fit the piece of the puzzle. dental records will tell the story.

 

[Scout]

a very good friend of mine who works in a dental office said they do not need the mouth to fit the piece of the puzzle. dental records will tell the story.

Dental records, DNA -- either will suffice.

Several of Michelle's teeth were knocked out, and the tooth was found in close proximity to where Michelle's body and several other of her teeth were recovered. Those facts gave LE pretty good reason to believe that the tooth was hers. It should be positively identified to confirm that belief. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[jake]

Dental records, DNA -- either will suffice.

Several of Michelle's teeth were knocked out, and the tooth was found in close proximity to where Michelle's body and several other of her teeth were recovered. Those facts gave LE pretty good reason to believe that the tooth was hers. It should be positively identified to confirm that belief. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

One thing makes me think it COULD be the killer's tooth: the violence of the beating. Maybe the killer became enraged when Michelle fought back and injured him.

--Jake

 

[Scout]

And Barney didn't ask for a LINK? Doesn't sound like the Barney I know.

--Jake

Jake, I'm surprised you're not outraged by the latest news. The presence of foreign DNA on Michelle's body would have gone a long way toward clearing Jason. You seem pleased as punch by the failure to check for sexual activity or rape. Why aren't you screaming about a cover-up by LE?

 

[spring]

One thing makes me think it COULD be the killer's tooth: the violence of the beating. Maybe the killer became enraged when Michelle fought back and injured him.

--Jake

then that should mean either some foreign dna or jason's dna, right? if she was able to fight that hard and hit the perp in the mouth. hope so.

 

[jake]

Jake, I'm surprised you're not outraged by the latest news. The presence of foreign DNA on Michelle's body would have gone a long way toward clearing Jason. You seem pleased as punch by the failure to check for sexual activity or rape. Why aren't you screaming about a cover-up by LE?

No cover-up, Scout. Not pleased by LE blunders, either. But the whole story hasn't come out yet. I can wait.

If I seem pleased as punch, it is at the embarrassment of LE, not at its blunders.

The Youngs are much more forgiving than I. I am still angry at the rude treatment of the Youngs by LE in Raleigh. Until the sheriff acknowledges that shabby treatment and apologizes, I don't feel very cooperative.

--Jake

 

[Scout]

No cover-up, Scout. Not pleased by LE blunders, either. But the whole story hasn't come out yet. I can wait.

If I seem pleased as punch, it is at the embarrassment of LE, not at its blunders.

The Youngs are much more forgiving than I. I am still angry at the rude treatment of the Youngs by LE in Raleigh. Until the sheriff acknowledges that shabby treatment and apologizes, I don't feel very cooperative.

--Jake

You've never posted anything that convinces me that LE was rude to the Youngs, Jake.

Regardless, if it turns out that Jason killed Michelle, will you still believe that the Youngs deserve an apology from LE?

 

[strach304]

They never said the tooth wasn't Michelle's; they said it would not have helped identify her killer. Obviously, it was never believed to have been the killer's tooth.

That's exactly what I remember too. I've never seen anything where it was reported LE said it wasn't.

 

[strach304]

No cover-up, Scout. Not pleased by LE blunders, either. But the whole story hasn't come out yet. I can wait.

If I seem pleased as punch, it is at the embarrassment of LE, not at its blunders.

The Youngs are much more forgiving than I. I am still angry at the rude treatment of the Youngs by LE in Raleigh. Until the sheriff acknowledges that shabby treatment and apologizes, I don't feel very cooperative.

--Jake

If there's more to the story it would really go a long way in knowing what you're talking about imo.

 

[Scout]

Here's another question for you, Jake. If investigators had good reason to suspect that Jason killed Michelle, and had indications from Jason's family that they were attempting to shield him from questioning and perhaps hide or dispose of evidence, how should they have treated the Young family?

 

[scandi]

Here is RPD's Autopsy Photo Report for posterity:

http://autopsyphotos.blogspot.com/

Snippet
"Blunt force Injury #5

This was the first photo I saw and one of the hardest to look at. The frontal shot of Michelle’s face showed a once beautiful girl with swollen, contorted features. Her upper and lower lips were badly swollen and bruised. Her tongue was very swollen and protruding. The complex mandible fractures described in the report was in layman’s term, a very badly broken jaw around the chin and upper gums, where 3 upper front teeth were missing. Another photo showed 3 perfectly formed teeth, with roots intact. In other words, these 3 teeth were totally knocked /ejected from Michelle’s gums, not just broken off. In addition, there were 2 additional fragmented teeth broken from the lower jaw. As we all know, there was another partial tooth found in the home by the Young Family after the crime scene investigators left. It was confirmed to me that this tooth fragment matched Michelle’s remaining tooth mast."

Scandi

ETA: I posted this on our links thread for reference.

 

[jake]

You've never posted anything that convinces me that LE was rude to the Youngs, Jake.

Regardless, if it turns out that Jason killed Michelle, will you still believe that the Youngs deserve an apology from LE?

The shabby treatment by LE has nothing to do with Jason. We're talking bout a grandmother, aunts, and uncles. They're not killers.

--Jake

 

[jake]

Here's another question for you, Jake. If investigators had good reason to suspect that Jason killed Michelle, and had indications from Jason's family that they were attempting to shield him from questioning and perhaps hide or dispose of evidence, how should they have treated the Young family?

With respect and dignity. There were no "indications".

--Jake

 

[jake]

Here is RPD's Autopsy Photo Report for posterity:

http://autopsyphotos.blogspot.com/

Snippet
"Blunt force Injury #5

This was the first photo I saw and one of the hardest to look at. The frontal shot of Michelle’s face showed a once beautiful girl with swollen, contorted features. Her upper and lower lips were badly swollen and bruised. Her tongue was very swollen and protruding. The complex mandible fractures described in the report was in layman’s term, a very badly broken jaw around the chin and upper gums, where 3 upper front teeth were missing. Another photo showed 3 perfectly formed teeth, with roots intact. In other words, these 3 teeth were totally knocked /ejected from Michelle’s gums, not just broken off. In addition, there were 2 additional fragmented teeth broken from the lower jaw. As we all know, there was another partial tooth found in the home by the Young Family after the crime scene investigators left. It was confirmed to me that this tooth fragment matched Michelle’s remaining tooth mast."

Scandi

ETA: I posted this on our links thread for reference.

Scandi, you are posting false information.

--Jake

 

[spring]

The shabby treatment by LE has nothing to do with Jason. We're talking bout a grandmother, aunts, and uncles. They're not killers.

--Jake

i wish you showed this much emotion for the woman and baby who lay 6 feet under. Michelle was not a killer either.

 

[scandi]

Scandi, you are posting false information.

--Jake

Is that because it says partial tooth? Did you see a root on that tooth Jake? I heard Harrison say it was a small tooth, and since we have heard partial, small and shard in reference to that tooth, it would be good to put this to rest.

 

[jake]

Is that because it says partial tooth? Did you see a root on that tooth Jake? I heard Harrison say it was a small tooth, and since we have heard partial, small and shard in reference to that tooth, it would be good to put this to rest.

Naw, Scandi. I've gone over this too many times. People will believe what they want to believe. The truth will out eventually.

--Jake