Michelle Young, pregnant mom, murdered Part 18

[raisincharlie]

In the article today in the N&O it says that MY was in New York in July and that she had just recently learned that she was carrying a boy. If she was only 4 to 5 months pregnant at the time of her death, how could she have known in July she was having a boy?

QB,

You know - you aren't suppose to notice those descrepancies - just blindly accept them...

 

[strach304]

Actually it said two weeks before she was murdered. Like there were two recent trips to NY? Anybody remember the exact source for the info that Michelle was in NY in July? I know it was brought up after the warrant about the trip Jason took to Ca. and Michelle had no more time left.

RC, I get the feeling he was a participant at one time too. The difference with them is they haven't followed other cases nor do they think Jason is guilty. Their comments are their perspective and not necessarily the truth of the matter.

 

[Barney Fife]

The only problem with the group collaboration is that S. Smith seems to think it is entertainment to visit the message boards and people just like to wallow in some one else's grief. Wonder if S. Smith knows how long Jake has been publically wallowing in someone else's grief. I wonder if he approves - I wonder if he even knows ? Somehow I suspect it would meet with approval on some very strange level.

If Mrs Young and Mr Smith only knew what their retired teacher comrade has really been up to for the past 3 months......I do have most of his posts (multiple nics) saved from 3 boards in case it ever comes up down the road.:silenced:

 

[scandi]

"Can't wait to see one of them testify at trial LE left behind bloody socks but threw them away because they didn't think they were important. As if LE's other blunders will be verification of that. Could've been bar-b-que sauce" Strach

That was classic!

I suppose the Bravardians are enjoying a Sunday Brunch at Pizza Hut today to celebrate the wonderful PR they have had.

Roger Smith might not be too happy though, I mean using the media to sway the jury pool is never good. If Jason ends up in the pokey, they might wish they had eaten Eggs Benedict instead of Pizza. That way it would have been in their tummies instead of on their faces! Scandi

 

[raisincharlie]

Actually it said two weeks before she was murdered. Like there were two recent trips to NY? Anybody remember the exact source for the info that Michelle was in NY in July? I know it was brought up after the warrant about the trip Jason took to Ca. and Michelle had no more time left.

RC, I get the feeling he was a participant at one time too. The difference with them is they haven't followed other cases nor do they think Jason is guilty. Their comments are their perspective and not necessarily the truth of the matter.

Jake supplied the information about Michelle being in NY in July. He indicated that this was the reason she did not go on the CA trip - she had no vacation time left. As I recall the trip was supposed to have been long planned and planned around 4 differing schedules - which obviously did not include Michelle's. I remember it well because I didn't buy that line then, nor do I buy it now.

I'll see if I can find the post and link it. This is what I recall.

 

[Barney Fife]

From public records......feel free to give them a call and chat about Jake. I am sure they will want to know the real story.


Patricia W Young
Spencer Smith
Marlon A. Walker
Sarah Ovaska
Roger Smith, jr

 

[scandi]

I just wanted to say what a nice testiment Sarah gave to 'our' Sami in her article. It was a great testiment to the quality of posters on these crime forums. We will happily share her with CTV! YaYa

Scandi

 

[strach304]

Jake supplied the information about Michelle being in NY in July. He indicated that this was the reason she did not go on the CA trip - she had no vacation time left. As I recall the trip was supposed to have been long planned and planned around 4 differing schedules - which obviously did not include Michelle's. I remember it well because I didn't buy that line then, nor do I buy it now.

I'll see if I can find the post and link it. This is what I recall.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was getting at because I don't remember reading it in the media. Other posters on ctv (2) said that Jason's family did go but I pointed out that maybe that's what Michelle originally thought because of the expense. That's a reason why LE would want those pics. It was Jake, Gojo that later said the Ca. trip was planned in advance also. Possibly she went to NY both times or maybe it was just the two weeks before her death.

 

[strach304]

:laugh: Scandi :clap:

 

[strach304]

Linda Fisher comes to mind now that the trip to NY so close to Michelle's death has been brought up. Is that the reason for the contention with her. Keeping her from seeing Cassidy as a form of punishment for what she may have told LE? I know someone claims she has seen her in Brevard no less but I haven't seen proof of that either. There's also the aspect that it could've been a PR move since it was so long.

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks, that's exactly what I was getting at because I don't remember reading it in the media. Other posters on ctv (2) said that Jason's family did go but I pointed out that maybe that's what Michelle originally thought because of the expense. That's a reason why LE would want those pics. It was Jake, Gojo that later said the Ca. trip was planned in advance also. Possibly she went to NY both times or maybe it was just the two weeks before her death.

Strach,

Check Michelle Young Part 16 page 27 in particular. There is much discussion and it is clear Michelle was supposed to have gone to NY in July before th CA trip. Might want to look quick, things may start disappearing here as well.:crazy:


ETA start pg 27 go backwards

 

[raisincharlie]

Linda Fisher comes to mind now that the trip to NY so close to Michelle's death has been brought up. Is that the reason for the contention with her. Keeping her from seeing Cassidy as a form of punishment for what she may have told LE? I know someone claims she has seen her in Brevard no less but I haven't seen proof of that either. There's also the aspect that it could've been a PR move since it was so long.

As I recall, Michelle started seeing the therapist shortly before her death as well. It is possible Michelle received that advice from her Mom.

Contention- I don't think there is any doubt that existed andprobably still does. JMO

 

[Samiya]

. Was there a light always kept on?

IMO Jason not talking is the reason there MIGHT be tunnel vision!
IF he is innocent as you say (think)... tell him to talk to them so that they
can CLEAR him and focus on finding the real killer!!!
Don't you think this would lead away from the tunnel vision?
:banghead: :banghead:

I had to snip to get this across to Jake.

Jake,

Since you say that you speak to Jason, I would like to you copy and read this post to him, including the quoted text. It is a plea directly from me.

Jason,

See the question above about the light? You may think that question is a con to get you in for an interview, but I can tell you that it is not. Little questions that may seem suss to you are important in a case such as that of your wife.

As far as I am aware, police are still trying to match fingerprints. If a light was on, which I think that it was or the question would not remain unanswered, and fingerprints were found on the light switch that do NOT belong to your wife, then who do they belong to? If they belonged to you, then you would have been brought in for questioning.

Jason...if a light was on in that bedroom, by the normal goings on of a woman going into her bedroom to go to bed, the prints print/s on the light switch SHOULD belong to Michelle. It is the small questions like this that remain unanswered that can slow a case down. These are questions that can be safely answered by you and your lawyer can direct you in which questions to answer.

Another similar question is "Did anyone else have a key to the house". Did Michelle or yourself give a key to anyone else? Did yours or Michelle's key go missing (was Michelle's bag stolen once not long ago?) and returned by someone? That 'someone' could have had a copy made before returning the property.

You may think that is a question just to get you in but I can tell you Jason, that it would not be the first time that a copy of a key that had been missing or in a handbag that was stolen months prior has been used in a crime.

They are small questions, they may seem trivial and a ruse to get you to talk, but they are important questions as far as a murder investigation goes.

Sami

 

[harleysnana]

Sami.... I do hope that Jake sends your message to Jason!

If Jason is so innocent as the family believes.. I don't see
why he wouldn't take at least an hour and answer their questions.

I personally feel that him being silent is what makes us all think he
had something to do with her murder.

If an innocent grieving husband had nothing to hide ..
he would hide nothing!

Look at Destiny Norton’s parents.. and Jessica Lunsford’s dad
and grandparents…they were grilled.. everyone thought
they had something to do with their disappearance.. and come to find out..
because they cooperated … they talked... they made pleas to the public…
both cases ended up solved.

IMO the fact that Jason is not cooperating … if this goes to trial and he is the one being accused of the crime… him not cooperating will be a huge factor in the juries decision.

Jake....
Those who have nothing to hide... hide nothing!

If you and Jason’s family believe he is innocent…
have him talk to the police and clear his name so they can focus
on finding the killer.

 

[jilly]

I'm very disturbed with how this has all been turned around to be all about Jason.

Me too Strach. This coupled with the "entertainment fodder" and the "wallowing" comments has prompted me to put a particular poster on ignore.

 

[Barney Fife]

"Obviously -- because he'd be in jail right now if he didn't -- Jason was able to prove where he was," Smith said. "It was physically impossible for him to have made that trip."

Obviously Mr. Smith is clueless. Able to prove to who...his Mommy and Mr Smith ? Heck, even Jake can understand that is a crock.That 'round trip' from Hillsville Va/ Raleigh took 5 hours. Allow another 1-2 hours to clean up and compose Cassidy and you have the obvious window of opportunity.

Shame on you Marlon for not offering the obvious rebuttal to that lame statement.

 

[FactsareFacts]

"Obviously -- because he'd be in jail right now if he didn't -- Jason was able to prove where he was," Smith said. "It was physically impossible for him to have made that trip."

Obviously Mr. Smith is clueless. Able to prove to who...his Mommy and Mr Smith ? Heck, even Jake can understand that is a crock.That 'round trip' from Hillsville Va/ Raleigh took 5 hours. Allow another 1-2 hours to clean up and compose Cassidy and you have the obvious window of opportunity.

Shame on you Marlon for not offering the obvious rebuttal to that lame statement.

That is lame Barney. I also find it funny that a couple weeks ago we were hearing from Jake that Jason had no alibi, had opportunity but no motive. I guess that wouldn't have been a good thing to say in the public though right? :waitasec:

 

[raisincharlie]

Thought I would pipe up with a couple of observations from today's articles in the N & O.

A lifetime friend of Michelle's from NY indicated that Michelle was in NY visiting less than two weeks before she was murdered. Michelle had recently found out she was to have a baby boy. This person also indicated that she and Michelle talked frequently and emailed each other frequently.

A friend of Michelle's indicated that Michelle had planned to take 6 months leave from work after the birth of her baby. Michelle had taken 3 months off after Cassidy was born. Michelle had planned to reduce her working hours "after" taking 6 months leave. We had heard that Michelle was going to reduce her hours but not about the extended leave from work.

Once again I notice in this article that it is reported that Jy has indicated that he left the house "sometime" on Nov 2 for a business meeting in VA. Why is it that no valid source can define this time? Why is it that Rhett Fussell did not define this time when interviewed? Why is it that none of the insiders from Raleigh have let this time slip in conversation?

Given the above, we do know that there was a hotel receipt for 2 November - found in Jy's SUV. We also know that there was a gas receipt for 3 November from a station in VA. This is the paper trail we know. LE of course has other items, i.e. cell phone records and other unknowns.
Those folks in Brevard would not know what those phone records indicate anymore than we do. They may be aware of things Jy has said but as Jake points out - anyone can say anything but does that make it true?

So, being long winded, the paper trail that is known is a hotel receipt and a gas receipt. How does one determine that it was physically impossible for Jy to have returned to Raleigh to murder his wife ? It is lost on me.

 

[Stoli]

Thought I would pipe up with a couple of observations from today's articles in the N & O.

A lifetime friend of Michelle's from NY indicated that Michelle was in NY visiting less than two weeks before she was murdered. Michelle had recently found out she was to have a baby boy. This person also indicated that she and Michelle talked frequently and emailed each other frequently.

A friend of Michelle's indicated that Michelle had planned to take 6 months leave from work after the birth of her baby. Michelle had taken 3 months off after Cassidy was born. Michelle had planned to reduce her working hours "after" taking 6 months leave. We had heard that Michelle was going to reduce her hours but not about the extended leave from work.

Once again I notice in this article that it is reported that Jy has indicated that he left the house "sometime" on Nov 2 for a business meeting in VA. Why is it that no valid source can define this time? Why is it that Rhett Fussell did not define this time when interviewed? Why is it that none of the insiders from Raleigh have let this time slip in conversation?

Given the above, we do know that there was a hotel receipt for 2 November - found in Jy's SUV. We also know that there was a gas receipt for 3 November from a station in VA. This is the paper trail we know. LE of course has other items, i.e. cell phone records and other unknowns.
Those folks in Brevard would not know what those phone records indicate anymore than we do. They may be aware of things Jy has said but as Jake points out - anyone can say anything but does that make it true?

So, being long winded, the paper trail that is known is a hotel receipt and a gas receipt. How does one determine that it was physically impossible for Jy to have returned to Raleigh to murder his wife ? It is lost on me.

Wishful thinking?

 

[jilly]

...So, being long winded, the paper trail that is known is a hotel receipt and a gas receipt. How does one determine that it was physically impossible for Jy to have returned to Raleigh to murder his wife ? It is lost on me.

Maybe jy has told them that he stayed somewhere other than Hillsville? That's the only thing I can think of.