Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 7

[raisincharlie]

The inability to interview Jason creates a problem for the prosecution. They have very little to go on as far as the line of defense Jason's attorney might try to take. Investigators have to try to anticipate what that might be and prepare to cover all bases. Time consuming, exhaustive work, I would think. It's prudent that they take their time and try to discern through other methods what Jason might claim as his defense.

Indeed.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The inability to interview Jason creates a problem for the prosecution. They have very little to go on as far as the line of defense Jason's attorney might try to take. Investigators have to try to anticipate what that might be and prepare to cover all bases. Time consuming, exhaustive work, I would think. It's prudent that they take their time and try to discern through other methods what Jason might claim as his defense.

But from what the insiders have said Jason told them what he did during his trip. I am sure they have interviewed all of them.

And I find it hard to believe that any DA or LE worth their salt would govern their case or evidence worrying about what his defense is going to be. I give them more credit than that. They try their own case based on the evidence they have uncovered imo.

IMO

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi Everyone!

My personal opinion is LE has already amassed quite a bit of CE against JY, and had it not been for his "alibi" of being in Brevard during MY's estimated TOD, that JY might have already been arrested.

IMO

Hi Paula Great to see you!

Are you saying that they think Michelle was killed much later on giving Jason time to be in Brevard? He didnt arrive in Brevard at his parents house until Friday early afternon. What I heard from Ed with AMW is that LE cannot place Jason in the home at the time of the murder not that the TOD was when he was in Brevard. :waitasec:

IMO

Ocean

 

[pack_fan]

Why would LE not make JY come down with attorney at hand. He doesn't have to answer a single question, but expressions can speak for themselves. One of the kids involved in the Duke fiasco is represented by the same firm. They have been very pro-active about speaking to the media claiming their innocence. Could be that they are advising him not to speak, but I just don't know. The silence has said more to me than any other piece of evidence in this case.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why would LE not make JY come down with attorney at hand. He doesn't have to answer a single question, but expressions can speak for themselves. One of the kids involved in the Duke fiasco is represented by the same firm. They have been very pro-active about speaking to the media claiming their innocence. Could be that they are advising him not to speak, but I just don't know. The silence has said more to me than any other piece of evidence in this case.

Well unfortunately they cant make him do anything. I forgot who said it this week on CTV but they said it is very likely that JYs attorney has had meetings with the DA or LE behind the scenes ...that it is very common.

IMO

Ocean

 

[haypaula]

Hi Paula Great to see you!

Are you saying that they think Michelle was killed much later on giving Jason time to be in Brevard? He didnt arrive in Brevard at his parents house until Friday early afternon. What I heard from Ed with AMW is that LE cannot place Jason in the home at the time of the murder not that the TOD was when he was in Brevard. :waitasec:

IMO

Ocean

Hi Ocean!

It's always a pleasure to see you!

I watched CC, and although DH was talking to me when this segment aired, and didn't catch the gent's name, I believe he said JY had an alibi, confirmed by his parents that he with them at their house in Brevard when MY was murdered. IIRC, the guy who said this was white, not the AA gent.

I was left with the impression that this confirmed alibi is what's keeping JY from being named a suspect, although he is considered a POI. I also heard that there are no other suspects.

IMO

 

[raisincharlie]

But from what the insiders have said Jason told them what he did during his trip. I am sure they have interviewed all of them.

And I find it hard to believe that any DA or LE worth their salt would govern their case or evidence worrying about what his defense is going to be. I give them more credit than that. They try their own case based on the evidence they have uncovered imo.

IMO

Ocean

Ocean,

Respectfully I think this is going to be more difficult than we think. IF JY committed this heinous atrocity - DNA may not be as significant as it would be if the crime was committed by an unknown only because JYs DNA and fingerprints are going to be everywhere in that house and even in the immediate vicinity of the attack. The only saving grace may be a bloody print of Jy's in MY's blood - I don't think this is the case for obvious reasons.

If LE cannot account for all of JY's time between 12 and 6 am - the DA will definitely need to figure where his lawyer may go. LE needs to find out if he was alone that night or not - don't want that surprise to show up in the case - so yes the DA better be thinking about where the defense can go if there is no specific DNA to back up the claim JY did it. Not only should they be thinking about it, they better know how and collect data to counter act it.

 

[pack_fan]

Ocean,

Respectfully I think this is going to be more difficult than we think. IF JY committed this heinous atrocity - DNA may not be as significant as it would be if the crime was committed by an unknown only because JYs DNA and fingerprints are going to be everywhere in that house and even in the immediate vicinity of the attack. The only saving grace may be a bloody print of Jy's in MY's blood - I don't think this is the case for obvious reasons.

If LE cannot account for all of JY's time between 12 and 6 am - the DA will definitely need to figure where his lawyer may go. LE needs to find out if he was alone that night or not - don't want that surprise to show up in the case - so yes the DA better be thinking about where the defense can go if there is no specific DNA to back up the claim JY did it. Not only should they be thinking about it, they better know how and collect data to counter act it.

I guess this could be one instance where cheating would pay, huh?

Well I'm off to bed, midnight here. If I don't see you guys in the next couple of days, I hope that you all have a wonderful Christmas. I don't think I'm getting anything though, my three year old keeps telling me that I'm on Santa's naughty list :banghead: .

 

[raisincharlie]

I guess this could be one instance where cheating would pay, huh?

Well I'm off to bed, midnight here. If I don't see you guys in the next couple of days, I hope that you all have a wonderful Christmas. I don't think I'm getting anything though, my three year old keeps telling me that I'm on Santa's naughty list :banghead: .

Goodnight pack_fan.

Glad you stopped by to visit with us. Hope you have a wonderful holiday as well. You must be pretty bad if a three year old has you on Santa's list - will keep an eye on you from now on !

 

[scandi]

Hi Everyone!

My personal opinion is LE has already amassed quite a bit of CE against JY, and had it not been for his "alibi" of being in Brevard during MY's estimated TOD, that JY might have already been arrested.

IMO

Hi Haypaula, Nice to see you here ;} I agree with you about the CE, but he has no alibi established in Bravard at the time of Michelle's TOD.

Tonight we learned that his parents in Bravard said he was there at the time her body was found - ONLY. And they can't give him an alibi of being in Brevard at the time of her death 'cause evidently he wasn't there at that time!

Actually the word alibi was never used on CC tonight by Ed.

LE knows he wasn't at his parents house, and have not yet placed him at his own house at the point of time of the murder. If Jason has an alibi for that time, or even if he doesn't, the info about that is being held close to the chest of LE for the time being.

That CE, Haypaula, could be major to the point it won't matter they can't place him there. If the killer did something to Michelle's body as some insider posted at CTV and if there is a good recording of 2 1/2 year old Cassidy during that 911 call, that might be plenty.

Maybe the Sheriff is being way to conservative because he knows what he's up against with that Smith law firm.

Like Ocean says, there's something not right and it could be something we don't know yet. Lots of CE I think, but I think Mr J is toast with a big capital T. LOL

Scandi

 

[scandi]

I guess this could be one instance where cheating would pay, huh?

Well I'm off to bed, midnight here. If I don't see you guys in the next couple of days, I hope that you all have a wonderful Christmas. I don't think I'm getting anything though, my three year old keeps telling me that I'm on Santa's naughty list :banghead: .

That is just tooooo Funny for words, Pack_fan. He be watchin' you! LOLOLOL Pretty sharp for a 3 year old. YaYa

And honey, cheatin' never pays, because in your heart you know you did wrong even if you didn't get caught! Good to see you Pack_fan and since I know posters here have been saying, hey, where is Pack_fan, from the rest of us, have a fun and memorable Christmas. And be sure and treat that little 3 year old of yours right, 'cause I think he's got the goods on you! & one more time Scandi

 

[Bobbisangel]

I hope that LE doesn't rush this case and that they have all of their ducks in a row before they make an arrest. If they hurry and JY is found "not guilty" then he is free to live his life just like that creep OJ.

I wonder how he did avoid all of the blood? Seems like that would be pretty hard to do. I also wonder if LE know what Jason was wearing at the time of Michelle's murder? There has to be something on his clothes. Unless he stood in the doorway of the bedroom which wouldn't have been possible as he beat her to death then he has blood, etc on his clothing. Did we ever hear if he was still home when Michelle's friend arrived? That is probably the only hope of knowing what he had on at that time.

 

[poco]

Hi Ocean!

It's always a pleasure to see you!

I watched CC, and although DH was talking to me when this segment aired, and didn't catch the gent's name, I believe he said JY had an alibi, confirmed by his parents that he with them at their house in Brevard when MY was murdered. IIRC, the guy who said this was white, not the AA gent.

I was left with the impression that this confirmed alibi is what's keeping JY from being named a suspect, although he is considered a POI. I also heard that there are no other suspects.
IMO

I don't know about you guys, but I'm leaning towards the burgulars down the street who were seen loading a safe into a van....... :crazy:

 

[Bee Charmer]

Hi Ocean!

It's always a pleasure to see you!

I watched CC, and although DH was talking to me when this segment aired, and didn't catch the gent's name, I believe he said JY had an alibi, confirmed by his parents that he with them at their house in Brevard when MY was murdered. IIRC, the guy who said this was white, not the AA gent.

I was left with the impression that this confirmed alibi is what's keeping JY from being named a suspect, although he is considered a POI. I also heard that there are no other suspects.

IMO

Hi Paula!!! So glad you're posting. Do you think his family is lying for him?


:blowkiss:

 

[Bee Charmer]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm leaning towards the burgulars down the street who were seen loading a safe into a van....... :crazy:

....or it could be them van owning, satan worshiping, homeless people!!

 

[raisincharlie]

....or it could be them van owning, satan worshiping, homeless people!!

I have a feeling we will be enlightened by entirely different stories for this one. No Hollywood this time.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Ocean,

Respectfully I think this is going to be more difficult than we think. IF JY committed this heinous atrocity - DNA may not be as significant as it would be if the crime was committed by an unknown only because JYs DNA and fingerprints are going to be everywhere in that house and even in the immediate vicinity of the attack. The only saving grace may be a bloody print of Jy's in MY's blood - I don't think this is the case for obvious reasons.

If LE cannot account for all of JY's time between 12 and 6 am - the DA will definitely need to figure where his lawyer may go. LE needs to find out if he was alone that night or not - don't want that surprise to show up in the case - so yes the DA better be thinking about where the defense can go if there is no specific DNA to back up the claim JY did it. Not only should they be thinking about it, they better know how and collect data to counter act it.

Good Morning Charlie!

Just stopping in for a few minutes.

Yes, I agree maybe this case is going to be more difficult than others and you are right of course and his DNA would be expected to be there in his own home. However I do think by this time they have been able to pinpoint JYs time line from Point A, B, C. D etc, all the way to Brevard. If they have substantiation on each furtherance away from the home then they know they cannot place him at the murder scene at that time. I am sure they have retraced how long it would take him to go from a certain area and back to Raleigh in order to do the murder and wind back up at another point at a certain time. For some reason it seems to not place him there.

I really have problems thinking a DA tries their cases based on what a defense may be. I have heard that some do that and have also heard comments from other Prosecutors who say those who try their case based on trying to disprove the defense theory is wrong and all cases must be tried by a DA with their own cases in mind and the firm evidence that proves the case and therefore if that is done the defense theory will be moot whatever it may or may not be.

But maybe for some reason this DA is scared of JYs attorney. I had hoped though that they would be more like Rick Distaso who didn't give a flip what SPs defense theory was and it did not matter who Scott's attorney was. He just presented his overwhelming case that could not be refuted. But I guess this DA could be one of those who does try to disprove the other side before venturing out for an arrest.

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

Good Morning Charlie!

Just stopping in for a few minutes.

Yes, I agree maybe this case is going to be more difficult than others and you are right of course and his DNA would be expected to be there in his own home. However I do think by this time they have been able to pinpoint JYs time line from Point A, B, C. D etc, all the way to Brevard. If they have substantiation on each furtherance away from the home then they know they cannot place him at the murder scene at that time. I am sure they have traced how long it would take him to go from a certain area and back to Raleigh in order to do the murder and wind back up at another point at a certain time. For some reason it seems to not place him there.

I really have problems thinking a DA tries their cases based on what a defense may be. I have heard that some do that and have also heard comments from other Prosecutors who say those who try their case based on trying to disprove the defense theory is wrong and all cases must be tried by a DA with their own cases in mind and the firm evidence that proves the case and therefore if that is done the defense theory will be moot whatever it may or may not be.

But maybe for some reason this DA is scared of JYs attorney. I had hoped though that they would be more like Rick Distaso who didn't give a flip what SPs defense theory was and it did not matter who Scott's attorney was. He just presented his overwhelming case that could not be refuted. But I guess this DA could be one of those who does try to disprove the other side before venturing out for an arrest.

IMO

Ocean

Good Morning Ocean,

I'm not near as cantankerous this morning as I was last night, nor as obstinate. I think the cell data is aligned by now and hopefully LE has a pretty good accounting of mileage on the SUV. I think if there is a gap to account for that LE is at the instruction of the DA trying to determine what did or could occur during that gap. I don't see this as attempting to disprove te other side as much as just good police work. This will be IMO a death penalty case and one that obviously WCSO and the DA will be unwilling to lose. Distasio waited four months for one piece of the puzzle - I don't blame this DA for waiting 7 weeks. JMO


Samiya - why the heck are you being so quiet ? Jump in here !

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Good Morning Ocean,

I'm not near as cantankerous this morning as I was last night, nor as obstinate. I think the cell data is aligned by now and hopefully LE has a pretty good accounting of mileage on the SUV. I think if there is a gap to account for that LE is at the instruction of the DA trying to determine what did or could occur during that gap. I don't see this as attempting to disprove te other side as much as just good police work. This will be IMO a death penalty case and one that obviously WCSO and the DA will be unwilling to lose. Distasio waited four months for one piece of the puzzle - I don't blame this DA for waiting 7 weeks. JMO


Samiya - why the heck are you being so quiet ? Jump in here !

LOL Nice to know you are your cheerful and pleasant self today.

Oh I most assuredly agree..this will be a death penalty case as it should be imo.

Well we will see I guess how long the DA continues to hold out before an arrest. Hopefully you are right and it will be forthcoming soon. A two month wait is certainly not a rush to judgment! lol

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

Here we go, another tidbit about a lap top siezure - Jy's lap top. Due to N&O copyright restrictions - you are just going to have to read it:


http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/524576.html


So confirmation that there was a lap top in the SUV. I am assuming the warrant was returned on Friday Dec 22.