Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 7

[Scout]

I agree and this is exactly what I am thinking - Ed is speculating and the police did not tell him this. So if he is speculating - it certainly doesn't mean it is true, just a possibility. Therefore IMO this episode on CC does not indicate whether or not JY has an alibi and we don't know anything more now than we did yesterday. JMO

Except for the wierd comment about the will...

I'm asking myself what could be questionable about the will and/or insurance policy. Don't most married couples leave everything to each other, and in the event of both parents' deaths, the estate goes to the children or into a trust for the children?

 

[Scout]

Continuing on that thought, perhaps Cassidy was the sole beneficiary of Michelle's estate, and Jason could not inherit it unless he has custody of Cassidy.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'm asking myself what could be questionable about the will and/or insurance policy. Don't most married couples leave everything to each other, and in the event of both parents' deaths, the estate goes to the children or into a trust for the children?

Maybe a recent policy? One he got on Michelle and most likely himself when he changed jobs?

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

I'm asking myself what could be questionable about the will and/or insurance policy. Don't most married couples leave everything to each other, and in the event of both parents' deaths, the estate goes to the children or into a trust for the children?

I think that it is safe to conclude this IMO. That's how mine is set, guess I better check the wife's however . I did find it interesting that MM was referenced in the same time frame however.

 

[panthera]

I didn't see CCL, but maybe Ed was just drawing conclusions in stating that LE cannot place Jason at the home at TOD. Perhaps Ed believes that if they have definitive proof that he was there, they would have already arrested him.

I didn't see it either, but from listening to Ed on prior occasions I think you could be right ~ he was drawing a conclusion, since JY hasn't been ruled out yet, but hasn't been arrested either. If he'd checked into a hotel and then driven all the way back to Raleigh, and returned to the hotel, I would also think he would've had to stop for gas. Wasn't he supposed to be 300 mi. away?

 

[raisincharlie]

Continuing on that thought, perhaps Cassidy was the sole beneficiary of Michelle's estate, and Jason could not inherit it unless he has custody of Cassidy.

An alive Cassidy...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Scandi,

I'm not doubting his source - I'm doubting Ed's sense - why would he even repeat this if the police told him ? He has , if told this, exposed information the police refused to tell publicly themselves - I see that as betrayal of his source and I also see it as giving a defense team information on the status of an investigation that perhaps they did not know. IMO if he was told this and repeated it on tv - he cheated his source and he has provided information to a defense lawyer that does not help this investigation.

I think his sources already know that this is what Ed does with the information but they know he wont disclose ever.......who they are.

IMO

Ocean

 

[panthera]

Continuing on that thought, perhaps Cassidy was the sole beneficiary of Michelle's estate, and Jason could not inherit it unless he has custody of Cassidy.

Oh that would be great ~ kind of like another OJ.

 

[raisincharlie]

I think his sources already know that this is what Ed does with the information but they know he wont disclose ever.......who they are.

IMO

Ocean

It is not important who the source is - what is important is the information exposed - its just wrong to let a POI's lawyer know LE is stalled - dead wrong. IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It is not important who the source is - what is important is the information exposed - its just wrong to let a POI's lawyer know LE is stalled - dead wrong. IMO

Well that is why I wondered if AMW is working on a story for their show since it seems to be stalled. Maybe they are hoping that someone out there knows something about JY.

I know John Walsh himself put out things on his website and show were they divulge certain information given to them by an inside source. I have seen John himself do it on LKL.

I do understand you being upset though. But dont you think by now his lawyers have figured out that LE has to be stalled as they have not arrested him and it will soon be two months?

IMO

Ocean

 

[pack_fan]

It is not important who the source is - what is important is the information exposed - its just wrong to let a POI's lawyer know LE is stalled - dead wrong. IMO

Looks like things have been busy here.

I hope it turns out that in fact, it wasn't JY but my intuition won't let it go. Let's assume for a minute that they can't place JY at the scene of the crime and there is no physical evidence. In a circumstancial case, would it not be good enough to prove that he had the opportunity if there is tons of other stuff to back it up? I don't recall there being a ton of direct evidence in the sp case either. I've been out of the loop for a while and am going to have to rehash this in my mind...

 

[panthera]

It is not important who the source is - what is important is the information exposed - its just wrong to let a POI's lawyer know LE is stalled - dead wrong. IMO

What if it's the wrong information? Could it possibly be put out there to give JY a sense of overconfidence ~ that the case is stalled? (Just thinking!)

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Looks like things have been busy here.

I hope it turns out that in fact, it wasn't JY but my intuition won't let it go. Let's assume for a minute that they can't place JY at the scene of the crime and there is no physical evidence. In a circumstantial case, would it not be good enough to prove that he had the opportunity if there is tons of other stuff to back it up? I don't recall there being a ton of direct evidence in the sp case either. I've been out of the loop for a while and am going to have to rehash this in my mind...

Well actually in the SP case his alibi put him right where the bodies were found.

I am not sure what CE they could use if they cant put him in Raleigh or in the home.

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

Well that is why I wondered if AMW is working on a story for their show since it seems to be stalled. Maybe they are hoping that someone out there knows something about JY.

I know John Walsh himself put out things on his website and show were they divulge certain information given to them by an inside source. I have seen John himself do it on LKL.

I do understand you being upset though. But dont you think by now his lawyers have figured out that LE has to be stalled as they have not arrested him and it will soon be two months?

IMO

Ocean

I don't agree this case is stalled - Donnie Harrison came out and said the lab was backed up, MY's autopsy has not been finalized to the point of release, that we know of - how can this case be stalled if they are waiting on data ? Do we know for certain the computer forensics are complete or the cell phone data is 100% collated ? I think we are too use to things being done over night - some cases just take longer especially when labs are overworked and well behind.

 

[panthera]

Well actually in the SP case his alibi put him right where the bodies were found.

I am not sure what CE they could use if they cant put him in Raleigh or in the home.

IMO

Ocean

And if the bodies hadn't washed up, SP might still be free. Sometimes it's isn't always easy to get enough evidence right away to make an arrest, and that's also why there's no statute of limitations on murder. If JY did murder Michelle, we certainly want a conviction, not a "rush to judgment" and have him acquitted like someone else who killed his wife with his children inside the house.

 

[raisincharlie]

Looks like things have been busy here.

I hope it turns out that in fact, it wasn't JY but my intuition won't let it go. Let's assume for a minute that they can't place JY at the scene of the crime and there is no physical evidence. In a circumstancial case, would it not be good enough to prove that he had the opportunity if there is tons of other stuff to back it up? I don't recall there being a ton of direct evidence in the sp case either. I've been out of the loop for a while and am going to have to rehash this in my mind...

Hello pack_fan !

I think if there is forensic evidence, either on MY's body or in her blood, or evidence in the SUV, LE would be able to get the job done but I think they need to determine for sure if he was alone the night MY was murdered - if he was alone, they will be able to proceed. But I think this is something they need to resolve somehow unless the forensics are overwhelming - don't want some one nighter to show up on the defense witness list as a surprise. JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I don't agree this case is stalled - Donnie Harrison came out and said the lab was backed up, MY's autopsy has not been finalized to the point of release, that we know of - how can this case be stalled if they are waiting on data ? Do we know for certain the computer forensics are complete or the cell phone data is 100% collated ? I think we are too use to things being done over night - some cases just take longer especially when labs are overworked and well behind.

I dont really know Charlie....that statement seems to have become an old stand by for LE. It may be backed up but it is two months now and they have many agencies willing to help them out that are available to them.

No, we dont know anything but I do think the investigation should be at a stage where an arrest should happen. They have an advantage of having a POI from day one. In Sarah Walkers case they thought the ex might have done it but even within about two months they had found her killer and he was a stranger and they said their labs were backed up too . Just seems to me they really have had the heads up here if it is Jason.

It did bother me somewhat when the Sheriff said there would not be a quick resolution to this case and he said this later in the case. Maybe he knew then things werent linking up for them and more leg work has to be done.

IMO

Ocean

 

[pack_fan]

I don't agree this case is stalled - Donnie Harrison came out and said the lab was backed up, MY's autopsy has not been finalized to the point of release, that we know of - how can this case be stalled if they are waiting on data ? Do we know for certain the computer forensics are complete or the cell phone data is 100% collated ? I think we are too use to things being done over night - some cases just take longer especially when labs are overworked and well behind.

I know I have got the tunnel vision on this one so please smack me out of it if necessary:slap:. I am still leaning towards the fact that this was a rage killing instead of a planned event although I would be interested to hear what was so interesting about the life insurance now. Just for the simple fact that she was bludgeoned, no signs of forced entry, apparently no robbery or sexual assault (although this is speculation). I would tend to beleive that a spouse could have come up with something better to divert attention away from him or herself with some planning and JY isn't a dummy.

I can't beleive that there will be no forensic evidence if JY is the culprit. I beleive there is tons of evidence between forensics, computer and cell phone records, motel receipts, video, key cards, etc.... that will come out soon enough. They may have peices of evidence that can be linked together later on that may or may not stand out as a single event or fact. Hope so for Cassidy's sake.

 

[raisincharlie]

I dont really know Charlie....that statement seems to have become an old stand by for LE. It may be backed up but it is two months now and they have many agencies willing to help them out that are available to them.

No, we dont know anything but I do think the investigation should be at a stage where an arrest should happen. They have an advantage of having a POI from day one. In Sarah Walkers case they thought the ex might have done it but even within about two months they had found her killer and he was a stranger and they said their labs were backed up too . Just seems to me they really have had the heads up here if it is Jason.

It did bother me somewhat when the Sheriff said there would not be a quick resolution to this case and he said this later in the case. Maybe he knew then things werent linking up for them and more leg work has to be done.

IMO

Ocean

Ocean,

You know as well as I in the Peterson case they knew Scotty was the man very early on and they waited four months - until the bodies came ashore. Everything was in place before, LE waited - and the bodies didn't provide any real solution to either how Laci was mudered or who murdered her. Why did they wait ?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

And if the bodies hadn't washed up, SP might still be free. Sometimes it's isn't always easy to get enough evidence right away to make an arrest, and that's also why there's no statute of limitations on murder. If JY did murder Michelle, we certainly want a conviction, not a "rush to judgment" and have him acquitted like someone else who killed his wife with his children inside the house.

Absolutely. Whoever did this.. whether Jason or Jason and a co-conspirator or someone else should pay dearly.

SP would have been arrested the day Laci and Conner went missing if their bodies had been found. The arrest was imminent but in this case they have the body and the crime scene where they collected evidence for 13 days.

All it would take imo is one bloody palm print or fingerprint belonging to Jason and he would be looking through cell bars. Fingerprint analysis is one of the quickest things to be completed and returned to LE. LE did say they took fingerprints and palm prints from the scene.

IMO

Ocean