Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 7

[raisincharlie]

I know I have got the tunnel vision on this one so please smack me out of it if necessary:slap:. I am still leaning towards the fact that this was a rage killing instead of a planned event although I would be interested to hear what was so interesting about the life insurance now. Just for the simple fact that she was bludgeoned, no signs of forced entry, apparently no robbery or sexual assault (although this is speculation). I would tend to beleive that a spouse could have come up with something better to divert attention away from him or herself with some planning and JY isn't a dummy.

I can't beleive that there will be no forensic evidence if JY is the culprit. I beleive there is tons of evidence between forensics, computer and cell phone records, motel receipts, video, key cards, etc.... that will come out soon enough. They may have peices of evidence that can be linked together later on that may or may not stand out as a single event or fact. Hope so for Cassidy's sake.

I agree about the evidence. I just have not formed any opinion about whether it was premeditated or not however. I think what will end up making my mind up about that will be the weapon used and where it came from, especially if this attack started in the bedroom.

 

[pack_fan]

Absolutely. Whoever did this.. whether Jason or Jason and a co-conspirator or someone else should pay dearly.

SP would have been arrested the day Laci and Conner went missing if their bodies had been found. The arrest was imminent but in this case they have the body and the crime scene where they collected evidence for 13 days.

All it would take imo is one bloody palm print or fingerprint belonging to Jason and he would be looking through cell bars. Fingerprint analysis is one of the quickest things to be completed and returned to LE. LE did say they took fingerprints and palm prints from the scene.

IMO

Ocean

They took tons of prints, but do we know for sure they had bloody prints?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Ocean,

You know as well as I in the Peterson case they knew Scotty was the man very early on and they waited four months - until the bodies came ashore. Everything was in place before, LE waited - and the bodies didn't provide any real solution to either how Laci was murdered or who murdered her. Why did they wait ?

Because they needed their bodies so Geragos couldn't say "Laci and Conner could come in that door at any minute and the DA cant even prove they are dead".

IMO

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

They took tons of prints, but do we know for sure they had bloody prints?

No, how I wish we did. They very well could be bloody or they may not be. I do know LE was really trying to get comparisons it seems even going all the way to Brevard.

I wonder if they asked any of the neighbors for their fingerprints? One of the neighbors that the media interviewed asked him had he ever been in the Young home before.

IMO

Ocean

 

[Scout]

Ocean,

You know as well as I in the Peterson case they knew Scotty was the man very early on and they waited four months - until the bodies came ashore. Everything was in place before, LE waited - and the bodies didn't provide any real solution to either how Laci was mudered or who murdered her. Why did they wait ?

They waited for evidence that would allay reasonable doubt. The bodies washing ashore where Scott went "fishing" did that. IMO

 

[raisincharlie]

Absolutely. Whoever did this.. whether Jason or Jason and a co-conspirator or someone else should pay dearly.

SP would have been arrested the day Laci and Conner went missing if their bodies had been found. The arrest was imminent but in this case they have the body and the crime scene where they collected evidence for 13 days.

All it would take imo is one bloody palm print or fingerprint belonging to Jason and he would be looking through cell bars. Fingerprint analysis is one of the quickest things to be completed and returned to LE. LE did say they took fingerprints and palm prints from the scene.

IMO

Ocean

Ocean,

I'm just on your case tonight aren't I ? Take it as a compliment - you make me think. If there was a bloody fingerprint or palm print but no DNA to verify whose blood that print is in - what does it mean ? If it is Jason's print and it was found in the garage and it turns out to be his blood - does it mean anything really - even if it is found in his bedroom? If it is Jason's print and it was found in the garage and its MY's blood it seems to me that would mean something quite specific. If there is a bloody print - even if they know who it belongs to, they better not arrest anyone until they know whose blood the print is in. JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree about the evidence. I just have not formed any opinion about whether it was premeditated or not however. I think what will end up making my mind up about that will be the weapon used and where it came from, especially if this attack started in the bedroom.

Me either. If a lamp was used etc that seems like something that would be used in a heated argument that got out of hand or an impromptu murder.

If it was something that was kept outside of the bedroom then that speaks more to premeditation to me.

IMO

Ocean

 

[pack_fan]

No, how I wish we did. They very well could be bloody or they may not be. I do know LE was really trying to get comparisons it seems even going all the way to Brevard.

I wonder if they asked any of the neighbors for their fingerprints? One of the neighbors that the media interviewed asked him had he ever been in the Young home before.

IMO

Ocean

I read somewhere, can't remember, that LE had to identify every finger print in the house. That seems to me that it would take lots of time. They interviewed tons of people and at least the few that I know that had to be interviewed were finger printed. I would assume if they haven't identified them all, that they are still looking and asking.

 

[raisincharlie]

They waited for evidence that would allay reasonable doubt. The bodies washing ashore where Scott went "fishing" did that. IMO

WSCO could not be doing the same thing - i.e. waiting on forensics and an autopsy ?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Ocean,

I'm just on your case tonight aren't I ? Take it as a compliment - you make me think. If there was a bloody fingerprint or palm print but no DNA to verify whose blood that print is in - what does it mean ? If it is Jason's print and it was found in the garage and it turns out to be his blood - does it mean anything really - even if it is found in his bedroom? If it is Jason's print and it was found in the garage and its MY's blood it seems to me that would mean something quite specific. If there is a bloody print - even if they know who it belongs to, they better not arrest anyone until they know whose blood the print is in. JMO

Oh you are not going to like my answer Charlie. If it is a bloody print or bloody palm print then this may another reason this case may be stalled. If it remains unidentified then they are probably looking for an unknown hit man maybe.

They already have Michelle's DNA so to do a match comparison on her wouldn't take long at all. Dr. Kobelinski says it can be done in 3 days. So imo if they do have a print and the print is known but has blood then they would take that one piece of evidence and put a rush on that one piece.

IMO

Ocean

 

[panthera]

Absolutely. Whoever did this.. whether Jason or Jason and a co-conspirator or someone else should pay dearly.

SP would have been arrested the day Laci and Conner went missing if their bodies had been found. The arrest was imminent but in this case they have the body and the crime scene where they collected evidence for 13 days.

All it would take imo is one bloody palm print or fingerprint belonging to Jason and he would be looking through cell bars. Fingerprint analysis is one of the quickest things to be completed and returned to LE. LE did say they took fingerprints and palm prints from the scene.

IMO

Ocean

I hope the fingerprints/palm prints don't turn out to be Cassidy's.

 

[raisincharlie]

Oh you are not going to like my answer Charlie. If it is a bloody print or bloody palm print then this may another reason this case may be stalled. If it remains unidentified then they are probably looking for an unknown hit man maybe.

They already have Michelle's DNA so to do a match comparison on her wouldn't take long at all. Dr. Kobelinski says it can be done in 3 days. So imo if they do have a print and the print is known but has blood then they would take that one piece of evidence and put a rush on that one piece.

IMO

Ocean

Why would this murder receive priority over the other murder cases the SBI lab is working on ? It seems to me if there were a bloody print it would have been sent to a private lab for verification rather than wainting for it from SBI. I conclude there is no bloody print. Thus no immediate arrest or rush to judgement as defense lawyers put it.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I read somewhere, can't remember, that LE had to identify every finger print in the house. That seems to me that it would take lots of time. They interviewed tons of people and at least the few that I know that had to be interviewed were finger printed. I would assume if they haven't identified them all, that they are still looking and asking.

If you noticed in all cases there will be unidentified fingerprints. It doesn't stop the DA or LE from going forward. A forensic tech can do many comparison fingerprints in one day. They now have so much to assist them such as computer analysis that feeds them through there very fast.

I think any fingerprints found in the bedroom are the key ones that are looking at.

IMO

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why would this murder receive priority over the other murder cases the SBI lab is working on ? It seems to me if there were a bloody print it would have been sent to a private lab for verification rather than wainting for it from SBI. I conclude there is no bloody print. Thus no immediate arrest or rush to judgment as defense lawyers put it.

There again I dont know Charlie but I have heard many talking heads who are Prosecutors say they know how to get something rushed through. I guess they call their buddies they have dealt with for years.

IMO

Ocean

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why would this murder receive priority over the other murder cases the SBI lab is working on ? It seems to me if there were a bloody print it would have been sent to a private lab for verification rather than wainting for it from SBI. I conclude there is no bloody print. Thus no immediate arrest or rush to judgement as defense lawyers put it.

Oh I forgot to comment on "I conclude there is no bloody print"..

Well on this I hope you are wrong...that is one thing the perp would not be able to explain away.

IMO

Ocean

 

[raisincharlie]

There again I dont know Charlie but I have heard many talking heads who are Prosecutors say they know how to get something rushed through. I guess they call their buddies they have dealt with for years.

IMO

Ocean

Speaking of Prosecutors, I think there is an excellent one involved here who has very high standards, also has kids, and is going to be he!! bent on putting away whoever is responsible.

 

[raisincharlie]

Oh I forgot to comment on "I conclude there is no bloody print"..

Well on this I hope you are wrong...that is one thing the perp would not be able to explain away.

IMO

Ocean

I hope I'm wrong too...

 

[haypaula]

Hi Everyone!

My personal opinion is LE has already amassed quite a bit of CE against JY, and had it not been for his "alibi" of being in Brevard during MY's estimated TOD, that JY might have already been arrested.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I hope the fingerprints/palm prints don't turn out to be Cassidy's.

I think this highly seasoned police team and CCSI would know a small 2 year old child's prints though dont you?

IMO

Ocean

 

[Scout]

The inability to interview Jason creates a problem for the prosecution. They have very little to go on as far as the line of defense Jason's attorney might try to take. Investigators have to try to anticipate what that might be and prepare to cover all bases. Time consuming, exhaustive work, I would think. It's prudent that they take their time and try to discern through other methods what Jason might claim as his defense.