Michelle Young: Pregnant Mom, NC. part 7

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  • #421
panthera said:
I thought you'd like that! I've been lurking around and reading, but see nothing really new ~ sadly. Let's hope we do have that arrest soon!:D
Well, definitely no new information other than last weeks small blurb, have to wait it out I quess. With all the holidays it may be a few more weeks before the autopsy report is even completed.

One thing I have been studying on though is LE must have found out where JY was supposedly staying on Thursday night. I'm thinking it might be this is the problem - either he checked in and no one saw him leave, or there are no security videos at the hotel (although one of the insiders has claimed there is a video), or JY paid with credit card and didn't need to check out the next am, just leave the key/card in the room and be gone. In which case he could have checked in but only went to the room long enough to call home and leave the key/card.

Then I studied about credit card usage to buy gas. If he filled up thursday say at his destination (supposedly in VA) and then bought gas again on friday morning before heading to Brevard that would look a bit odd if those charges are on his credit card.

LE may not be able to account for his exact whereabouts. If this is the case they need to at least be able to verify he was alone and cannot prove he was sitting in a hotel. As you can see I have progressed to trying to figure what LE is missing that is holding them up, other than forensics at the lab. Nothing better to do than try to figure out something, speculation upon speculation...JMO
 
  • #422
j2mirish said:
I have thought all along it would be odd for her not to have called him immedialty upon finding MY-, I dont know if I would think fast enough about not telling him when he was driving or not- she made not have even known "exactly" where he was to be concerned about the lenght of a drive home-

I still cant get over how tight lipped this case is--- there must be an arrest coming soon- or I dont understand the silence
(Haven't read all the prior post, but..) I would not probably have imediately thought of contacting him if I were her sister... Thinking I would be in so much shock, disbelief, the baby is there, etc.. thinking of my mom, etc, etc.. calling him right away may have run through her mind but, from my own experience (different in sense than a murder) I remember upon learning of the event my mind was racing, jumping from one thought to another with no clear consistant thought at all..

Anyway, wish we knew what is taking so long, I am hoping and thinking they are silently gathering their facts, (hopefully) so it will be a slam dunk! What is the creep up to anyway, why is there really no news regarding him or the gf? That is somewhat strange to myself..

God Bless Cassidy :angel:
 
  • #423
Hey, snow coming again. Haven't had it yet here, but hit the grocery store before I came home and for grins, I bought the Enquirer and Globe. (I do this maybe twice a year, LOL)

Imagine my surprise when I turned to page 23 of the January 1, 2007 issue. The title of the article is: "The New Laci, was HER husband cheating?" Yep, it's Michelle Young they're talking about. There is a mention of another article in the Globe, their December 11 issue. Didn't see this one. This was written by Jordan Rodack, whoever he is.

Basically it mentions the similarity to the Laci Peterson case and mentions the search warrants shedding new light on the case and also that JY was in almost daily contact with MM. It ends with a quote from Sheriff Donnie Harrison, "I sure would like to sit down and talk to him."
 
  • #424
BarnGoddess said:
Hey, snow coming again. Haven't had it yet here, but hit the grocery store before I came home and for grins, I bought the Enquirer and Globe. (I do this maybe twice a year, LOL)

Imagine my surprise when I turned to page 23 of the January 1, 2007 issue. The title of the article is: "The New Laci, was HER husband cheating?" Yep, it's Michelle Young they're talking about. There is a mention of another article in the Globe, their December 11 issue. Didn't see this one. This was written by Jordan Rodack, whoever he is.

Basically it mentions the similarity to the Laci Peterson case and mentions the search warrants shedding new light on the case and also that JY was in almost daily contact with MM. It ends with a quote from Sheriff Donnie Harrison, "I sure would like to sit down and talk to him."
I would be surprised if they (Globe & Enquirer) haven't been out searching for "others". Well, it may get the press in Raleigh to loosen up a bit - I think they know more than they are telling, maybe with good cause - but gotta keep up with the Jones. Interesting - thanks BG.

---------------O (snowball) :D
 
  • #425
I thought it was worth a mention here. Can't find it online. They only seem to post the covers on line.


-----------------O (back atcha) :D
 
  • #426
BarnGoddess said:
Hey, snow coming again. Haven't had it yet here, but hit the grocery store before I came home and for grins, I bought the Enquirer and Globe. (I do this maybe twice a year, LOL)

Imagine my surprise when I turned to page 23 of the January 1, 2007 issue. The title of the article is: "The New Laci, was HER husband cheating?" Yep, it's Michelle Young they're talking about. There is a mention of another article in the Globe, their December 11 issue. Didn't see this one. This was written by Jordan Rodack, whoever he is.

Basically it mentions the similarity to the Laci Peterson case and mentions the search warrants shedding new light on the case and also that JY was in almost daily contact with MM. It ends with a quote from Sheriff Donnie Harrison, "I sure would like to sit down and talk to him."
Hi Barn Goddess,

Is there any chance of contacting the E&G to see if you can quote what is in the article here as a post? If they have an email address I'd be happy to approach them on the subject. As an Aussie who doesn't have access to that publication over here, I'd love to read it.

Sami
 
  • #427
Samiya said:
Hi Barn Goddess,

Is there any chance of contacting the E&G to see if you can quote what is in the article here as a post? If they have an email address I'd be happy to approach them on the subject. As an Aussie who doesn't have access to that publication over here, I'd love to read it.

Sami
Sami, I bought both magazines, but only the Globe had the article. I found the area where they post their links. Here is the non-subscription inquiry address:

[email protected]

I googled the Globe and got only a picture of last week's (I think) front page. They may have changed it by now. They don't seem to have teasers like the Enquirer does on it's website.

I did quote the sheriff as exactly as they had it in the mag. The rest was basically the same. Blunt force trauma, JY is main suspect, warrants for evidence, phone records seized. They did have one thing wrong. They had JY as a car salesman. I don't know, maybe he was a car salesman before he was a medical software salesman. Could we check? I just think they got this part wrong.

Hope this helps.
 
  • #428
BarnGoddess said:
Hey, snow coming again. Haven't had it yet here, but hit the grocery store before I came home and for grins, I bought the Enquirer and Globe. (I do this maybe twice a year, LOL)

Imagine my surprise when I turned to page 23 of the January 1, 2007 issue. The title of the article is: "The New Laci, was HER husband cheating?" Yep, it's Michelle Young they're talking about. There is a mention of another article in the Globe, their December 11 issue. Didn't see this one. This was written by Jordan Rodack, whoever he is.

Basically it mentions the similarity to the Laci Peterson case and mentions the search warrants shedding new light on the case and also that JY was in almost daily contact with MM. It ends with a quote from Sheriff Donnie Harrison, "I sure would like to sit down and talk to him."

i have the last issue of NE dated January 1st, but there's nothing about this on page 23...i assume you're talking about the Globe, right?....daaaang, i never buy the Globe...i get NE weekly though, so i'm hoping the next issue, which i'll get Tuesday, will have something on the case in it......

i wondered when these mags would start doing bits on the case...interesting...if LE doesn't start giving out info, these mags will....

just heard about another snow storm heading your way...orrrrr, maybe it's there by now...just heard a small blurb about it on foxnews.....take cover!!
 
  • #429
raisincharlie said:
Well, definitely no new information other than last weeks small blurb, have to wait it out I quess. With all the holidays it may be a few more weeks before the autopsy report is even completed.

One thing I have been studying on though is LE must have found out where JY was supposedly staying on Thursday night. I'm thinking it might be this is the problem - either he checked in and no one saw him leave, or there are no security videos at the hotel (although one of the insiders has claimed there is a video), or JY paid with credit card and didn't need to check out the next am, just leave the key/card in the room and be gone. In which case he could have checked in but only went to the room long enough to call home and leave the key/card.

Then I studied about credit card usage to buy gas. If he filled up thursday say at his destination (supposedly in VA) and then bought gas again on friday morning before heading to Brevard that would look a bit odd if those charges are on his credit card.

LE may not be able to account for his exact whereabouts. If this is the case they need to at least be able to verify he was alone and cannot prove he was sitting in a hotel. As you can see I have progressed to trying to figure what LE is missing that is holding them up, other than forensics at the lab. Nothing better to do than try to figure out something, speculation upon speculation...JMO

interesting thoughts though.....about the gas; i KNOW this will sound crazy...i had thought of it awhile back, but thought it was so 'out there' decided not to post, but wth.....what if JY had gas already in the SUV???...i mean like 2 or 3 five gallon gas containers...he wouldn't have to stop for gas, if this was planned (which i think it was)

also i think it's very possible, as you mentioned, that JY checked in somewhere over the VA line...went in, maybe mussed up the room a bit, & left .... he wouldn't HAVE to actually check out at all...just simply leave the key card on a table & split.....it would be very hard to prove he wasn't in the room sleeping, unless someone actually saw him out & about when he should have been in the room sleeping.....i STILL can't get the thought of a delivery person seeing his vehicle in the neighborhood out of my head....i think someone DID see him, but LE has to put all the pieces together first...they can't simply go by one eye witness alone....
 
  • #430
I am sure this is going to sound over the top to you guys but....

Is there a pic of JY out there that shows JY without the sunglasses since the murder?

What if he had a black eye when he showed up at his folks?

I had read a post from someone claiming to know him that said he had bruises on him in the past. Could he be a victim of domestic abuse? That is not very common where the wife is an abuser, it does happen however. Guys don't often tell their guy friends about this kind of thing, but they may tell a women. I never hear of them going to a shelter to get away from the abuse.

He might have thought that there was no way a divorce would free him from her because of Cassity, and may make things worse. He might have made a plan to free himself of her forever and decided to kill her.

It has been posted that MY did not have a good relationship with her father. Could her father have physically abused her mother over the years? Could MY have wittnessed this over the years and became abusive herself?

There is no way MY deserved to be murdered however. I just was looking at other scenarios. What do you all think?
 
  • #431
close_enough said:
interesting thoughts though.....about the gas; i KNOW this will sound crazy...i had thought of it awhile back, but thought it was so 'out there' decided not to post, but wth.....what if JY had gas already in the SUV???...i mean like 2 or 3 five gallon gas containers...he wouldn't have to stop for gas, if this was planned (which i think it was)

also i think it's very possible, as you mentioned, that JY checked in somewhere over the VA line...went in, maybe mussed up the room a bit, & left .... he wouldn't HAVE to actually check out at all...just simply leave the key card on a table & split.....it would be very hard to prove he wasn't in the room sleeping, unless someone actually saw him out & about when he should have been in the room sleeping.....i STILL can't get the thought of a delivery person seeing his vehicle in the neighborhood out of my head....i think someone DID see him, but LE has to put all the pieces together first...they can't simply go by one eye witness alone....
Morning Close,

Not way out there at all IMO. What are your thoughts on LE saying this was not a random crime? My mind is thinking there is more to this besides no forced entry, the nature of the crime, and Cassidy. I had some out there thoughts like what if the washer had wet clothes in it but the clothes were only men's clothes and maybe only one set of clothing - or the dryer even. What if blood was found on one or two of JYs shoes in the closet (as in he committed the crime and then changed shoes so not to track). Being very random here as I recall one poster (and I cannot remember the name of who to credit for this idea) indicated the murderer might have left food out for Cassidy. So any ideas ?
 
  • #432
raisincharlie said:
I'm pretty sure it is the same one we heard about last Friday Scandi. Darn, no link to the warrant itself - shoot a monkey !

hmmm, the article says "details" have been released....released where?????
 
  • #433
raisincharlie said:
Morning Close,

Not way out there at all IMO. What are your thoughts on LE saying this was not a random crime? My mind is thinking there is more to this besides no forced entry, the nature of the crime, and Cassidy. I had some out there thoughts like what if the washer had wet clothes in it but the clothes were only men's clothes and maybe only one set of clothing - or the dryer even. What if blood was found on one or two of JYs shoes in the closet (as in he committed the crime and then changed shoes so not to track). Being very random here as I recall one poster (and I cannot remember the name of who to credit for this idea) indicated the murderer might have left food out for Cassidy. So any ideas ?

gosh, the ideas you've mentioned sound very possible, imo.....i just don't have any other ideas (but i'll be thinking).....i've got to scoot for a bit, but i'll be back......
 
  • #434
close_enough said:
interesting thoughts though.....about the gas; i KNOW this will sound crazy...i had thought of it awhile back, but thought it was so 'out there' decided not to post, but wth.....what if JY had gas already in the SUV???...i mean like 2 or 3 five gallon gas containers...he wouldn't have to stop for gas, if this was planned (which i think it was)

also i think it's very possible, as you mentioned, that JY checked in somewhere over the VA line...went in, maybe mussed up the room a bit, & left .... he wouldn't HAVE to actually check out at all...just simply leave the key card on a table & split.....it would be very hard to prove he wasn't in the room sleeping, unless someone actually saw him out & about when he should have been in the room sleeping.....i STILL can't get the thought of a delivery person seeing his vehicle in the neighborhood out of my head....i think someone DID see him, but LE has to put all the pieces together first...they can't simply go by one eye witness alone....
Close, I also posted about this earlier. The motel part that is. I was thinking that if he planned this he would have picked a motel where he could slip in and out without being noticed. We are thinking alike here, LOL.

I live about 170 miles east of Denver. Depending what we drive, we can get to Denver on 1/2 tank. I think the distance from Raleigh to towns in Virginia are about the same distance. He obviously would need gas somewhere. It wouldn't be alarming to find he bought gas in Raleigh before he left, and even in Virginia the next morning. In between, if he returned to murder her, then that would be an alert. Unless he stopped somewhere and paid cash.
 
  • #435
packerdog said:
I am sure this is going to sound over the top to you guys but....

Is there a pic of JY out there that shows JY without the sunglasses since the murder?

What if he had a black eye when he showed up at his folks?

I had read a post from someone claiming to know him that said he had bruises on him in the past. Could he be a victim of domestic abuse? That is not very common where the wife is an abuser, it does happen however. Guys don't often tell their guy friends about this kind of thing, but they may tell a women. I never hear of them going to a shelter to get away from the abuse.

He might have thought that there was no way a divorce would free him from her because of Cassity, and may make things worse. He might have made a plan to free himself of her forever and decided to kill her.

It has been posted that MY did not have a good relationship with her father. Could her father have physically abused her mother over the years? Could MY have wittnessed this over the years and became abusive herself?

There is no way MY deserved to be murdered however. I just was looking at other scenarios. What do you all think?

hi packerdog.

I don't believe the poster who said he'd had bruises on him. This was posted at a time when there were a few people trying to put things out in cyber-space to take everyone's eye off JY.

As for the sunglasses,.............kind of reminds me of when SP wore his baseball cap. IMO, there are more affairs out there waiting to come out. IMO, he didn't want to be recognized.

IF JY is not involved in this crime, why hasn't he talked to LE? He hasn't spoken to them since his car was confiscated. IMO, there is no way that a husband or wife would not talk to LE if their spouse had been murdered,........unless they are somehow involved.

This is a HUGE RED FLAG! IMHO.

Why hasn't JY gone on tv and beg for information that could lead to the murderer of his wife and unborn child?

I'm sorry, I don't care about 'everyone acts differently in grief;' this guy is not acting like someone who is missing his wife. He's not acting like he wants LE to solve this crime.

JMHO
fran
 
  • #436
packerdog said:
I am sure this is going to sound over the top to you guys but....

Is there a pic of JY out there that shows JY without the sunglasses since the murder?

What if he had a black eye when he showed up at his folks?

I had read a post from someone claiming to know him that said he had bruises on him in the past. Could he be a victim of domestic abuse? That is not very common where the wife is an abuser, it does happen however. Guys don't often tell their guy friends about this kind of thing, but they may tell a women. I never hear of them going to a shelter to get away from the abuse.

He might have thought that there was no way a divorce would free him from her because of Cassity, and may make things worse. He might have made a plan to free himself of her forever and decided to kill her.

It has been posted that MY did not have a good relationship with her father. Could her father have physically abused her mother over the years? Could MY have wittnessed this over the years and became abusive herself?

There is no way MY deserved to be murdered however. I just was looking at other scenarios. What do you all think?


I read the post you're talking about wherein they said Jason had gone to their pastor or minister a short time before the murder and showed him bruises on his arm. Imo that poster was indicating there was domestic violence in the relationship. At the time there were a lot of people posting on various boards who claimed to know the Youngs, etc. but that particular idea seemed to me to sound more like a defense strategy in the event Jason got arrested and it was also before the affair was known about. Not saying it isn't possible, just that my instinct is more on target for an unusual type line of defense.

Based on what we know of the murder there certainly could've been a very violent fight and would explain the rage type killing. I myself had even suggested she threw or hit him with the wedding photos but I can't buy the self defense theory as of yet.
 
  • #437
raisincharlie said:
Morning Close,

Not way out there at all IMO. What are your thoughts on LE saying this was not a random crime? My mind is thinking there is more to this besides no forced entry, the nature of the crime, and Cassidy. I had some out there thoughts like what if the washer had wet clothes in it but the clothes were only men's clothes and maybe only one set of clothing - or the dryer even. What if blood was found on one or two of JYs shoes in the closet (as in he committed the crime and then changed shoes so not to track). Being very random here as I recall one poster (and I cannot remember the name of who to credit for this idea) indicated the murderer might have left food out for Cassidy. So any ideas ?

That was me raising hand! I thought he might have cared enough about Cassity being fed that he left something out for her. I wonder if she did eat and drink something on her own, if not she would have been pretty hungry by the time MF came.
 
  • #438
As JY has already layed out an alibi, there's no way he could use 'self-defense,' IF it was him who did this. He wasn't supposed to be there.

She was struck on the head (iirc) at least 10 times. That's too many times for 'self-defense,' imho.

IF LE links him to the crime, from what little we know of the crime so far, it's obvious this was premeditated. imo.

JMHO
fran

PS....I agree with you Strach, "At the time there were a lot of people posting on various boards who claimed to know the Youngs, etc. but that particular idea seemed to me to sound more like a defense strategy in the event Jason got arrested "
 
  • #439
strach304 said:
I read the post you're talking about wherein they said Jason had gone to their pastor or minister a short time before the murder and showed him bruises on his arm. Imo that poster was indicating there was domestic violence in the relationship. At the time there were a lot of people posting on various boards who claimed to know the Youngs, etc. but that particular idea seemed to me to sound more like a defense strategy in the event Jason got arrested and it was also before the affair was known about. Not saying it isn't possible, just that my instinct is more on target for an unusual type line of defense.

Based on what we know of the murder there certainly could've been a very violent fight and would explain the rage type killing. I myself had even suggested she threw or hit him with the wedding photos but I can't buy the self defense theory as of yet.

Yes I think the posts came from friends defending him. They have been quiet latley though maybe they feel different now
 
  • #440
raisincharlie said:
Morning Close,

Not way out there at all IMO. What are your thoughts on LE saying this was not a random crime? My mind is thinking there is more to this besides no forced entry, the nature of the crime, and Cassidy. I had some out there thoughts like what if the washer had wet clothes in it but the clothes were only men's clothes and maybe only one set of clothing - or the dryer even. What if blood was found on one or two of JYs shoes in the closet (as in he committed the crime and then changed shoes so not to track). Being very random here as I recall one poster (and I cannot remember the name of who to credit for this idea) indicated the murderer might have left food out for Cassidy. So any ideas ?

Probably nothing so profound as that right from the beginning imo RC. For instance we know her purse was on the table so there could've been cash in it untouched as well as other obvious valuables and no ransacking. Proof of the crime maybe happening in the bedroom and no forced entry or sign of sexual attack led them to believe Michele let the perp in or of course they had a key. For all they knew from the get-go she had a boyfriend over while her husband was out of town. Further investigation would be needed but still would qualify as non-random. The baby and dog in the house unhurt with no signs of a struggle or altercation in the downstairs. All of this directly pointing to Michele as the intended victim. Smashed wedding photos in the bedroom are very specific if say something more appropriate as a weapon was handy for defense.

I don't know how many remember the details of the Harvey family in Richmond but LE immediately said it wasn't random because there were no signs of ransacking or forced entry and nothing taken. As it turned out it was and cash and jewelry were taken because of course the victims were alive and able to hand over valuables and in broad daylight had their doors open and perps just walked in, they weren't let in.
 
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